Post: #1

I tried. I honestly tried to be an optomistic loving guy and offer my heart to women and not merely use them. Sly and El will remember on my trip I still was trying to play captain save a hoe. But, well. I have nothing else to say now besides women are absurd. I am full player mode. I really shouldve listened to everyone here.

I'm not mad. It's just a sort of like. Huh realization. Like a flame of warmth got snuffed out.

Tis whatever.

On to the next one. I am going to start by doing a 1000 girl approach challenge finally and rereading some pick up materials. Any recommendations besides DB and Bang? Or is that all I really need? It's all I really own.

Post: #2

(02-01-2012 12:22 AM)Black Quixote Wrote:  I tried. I honestly tried to be an optomistic loving guy and offer my heart to women and not merely use them. Sly and El will remember on my trip I still was trying to play captain save a hoe. But, well. I have nothing else to say now besides women are absurd. I am full player mode. I really shouldve listened to everyone here.

I'm not mad. It's just a sort of like. Huh realization. Like a flame of warmth got snuffed out.

Tis whatever.

On to the next one. I am going to start by doing a 1000 girl approach challenge finally and rereading some pick up materials. Any recommendations besides DB and Bang? Or is that all I really need? It's all I really own.

Did something really specific happen that was fucked up? Or is this just a culmination of a bunch of things?

Post: #3

One fucked up thing, that sort of made the whole house of cards of bullshit just fall.

Post: #4

(02-01-2012 12:27 AM)Black Quixote Wrote:  One fucked up thing, that sort of made the whole house of cards of bullshit just fall.

I'm hopeful that you will indulge us.

Post: #5

(02-01-2012 12:27 AM)Black Quixote Wrote:  One fucked up thing, that sort of made the whole house of cards of bullshit just fall.

Yeah for real..what happened player? We cant have a discussion here if you dont let us know what happened to you.

Post: #6

Long story short.

This solid 8. Whom I had been talking to for avery long time. We had been lightly dating, getting to know each toher etc. etc. She gets mad at me because I am an "asshole" to her. Which literally meant because she wasnt giving it up, I didnt overindulge in spending time with her. We would lay for hours kissing and talking. (blue buddies). One time she kicked me out because she was tired after hours of this. Dont get me wrong I just went for it like a champ a few times but met a brickwall. I was a very very nice guy to her by beta standards. Charming funny etc. etc. and she never truly appreciated it. She dates some chode for awhile, i talk to her again. They break up. I try again. (Breaking the one shot rule). Then, she pretends to be all in love with me again, leading me on the same as before. Next thing I know she says how I only get on chance and she just wants to be friends. I told her I didnt want to talk to her again. I say hi to her the next day offhandedly. She says I am angry at you, I heard you were talking about me and proceeds to bitch me out. I stopped. I couldnt believe after all the bullshit she put me through, and saying how nothing mattered but this or that between us and was going to stop talking to me over some bullshit someone said about me just wanting to use her. HOW COULD I USE SOMETHING I HADNT FUCKED. Now sure I had fucked other girls that not a soul knows about. But I really was with her because I liked her as a person. I made the mistake of being a nice guy again.

Never again. As far as I am concerned. No love anymore. get what I want and be done with it.

Post: #7

Judging by the title of this post, you have realized that your idea of women doesn't live up to the reality.

You've got oneitis. Go out and fuck multiple women to get a better understanding of what women are. Go fuck 10 women and then come back to this thread.

Post: #8

What soup said, 100%!!!

Mixx

Post: #9

I totally agree. And will do.

Post: #10

Man, a lot of worse stuff could have happened then that, examples I can think of: your girl cheats on you with a friend, you get your GF pregnant and have the kid with her, only to find out later it's another guys', or maybe you get excused of rape falsely, or arrested for domestic violence over nothing...

Anyways, the point being, you're a young guy who got blue balled by some chick, big deal. Just find a girl who's DTF, you don't have to get all emotional and play Mr. nice guy every time. Just be glad you didn't get burned hard by some super shady bitch.

Post: #11

Yeah, it's better you just use them as cum dumpsters. It's harsh, but it's the only way to avoid being fucked over by them.

Post: #12

What OG said. Many guys go through that at some point in their lives. Hell, I had my days where I was "buttercupping" in LTR's that were a COMPLETE waste of time. Everything changed for me after going to Rio de Janeiro. Just be happy that you woke up NOW. Imagine spending the best years of your life married or in an LTR with ONE chick. Lots of guys are in that situation, only for the relationship to dissolve at a time in their life where they don't even know how to have a good time anymore. Consider yourself blessed and use this experience to go out and attack the scene with a vengeance.

Post: #13

(02-01-2012 12:22 AM)Black Quixote Wrote:  I tried. I honestly tried to be an optomistic loving guy and offer my heart to women and not merely use them. Sly and El will remember on my trip I still was trying to play captain save a hoe. But, well. I have nothing else to say now besides women are absurd. I am full player mode. I really shouldve listened to everyone here.

I'm not mad. It's just a sort of like. Huh realization. Like a flame of warmth got snuffed out.

Tis whatever.

On to the next one. I am going to start by doing a 1000 girl approach challenge finally and rereading some pick up materials. Any recommendations besides DB and Bang? Or is that all I really need? It's all I really own.

It's hard not to become jaded when women you love end up snubbing you somehow. I think all that you'll really need is DB and Bang, depending on what you're looking for. Bang has, hands down, the very best inner game material ever written in the history of game.
Don't want to sound like a fanboy though, but Mystery's club game is probably the best pickup material for robots ever made. You'll consistently pull 9s and 10s with that stuff, provided they don't watch VH1.

Post: #14

(02-01-2012 01:29 AM)soup Wrote:  Judging by the title of this post, you have realized that your idea of women doesn't live up to the reality.

You've got oneitis. Go out and fuck multiple women to get a better understanding of what women are. Go fuck 10 women and then come back to this thread.

Your idea of WHO you thought she was.. isnt what she is.. Welcome to reality.

(02-01-2012 07:16 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  What OG said. Many guys go through that at some point in their lives. Hell, I had my days where I was "buttercupping" in LTR's that were a COMPLETE waste of time. Everything changed for me after going to Rio de Janeiro. Just be happy that you woke up NOW. Imagine spending the best years of your life married or in an LTR with ONE chick. Lots of guys are in that situation, only for the relationship to dissolve at a time in their life where they don't even know how to have a good time anymore. Consider yourself blessed and use this experience to go out and attack the scene with a vengeance.

On the dot. Waste of time.

Post: #15

I don't know how old you are but you're a very lucky man if you're in your 20s and VERY lucky if you're in your early 20s.

You've managed to realise and come to terms with a truth that some men realised much later in their lives and would give a ballsack to have known back in their 20s.

Post: #16

(02-07-2012 08:31 PM)Malcolm Tucker Wrote:  I don't know how old you are but you're a very lucky man if you're in your 20s and VERY lucky if you're in your early 20s.

You've managed to realise and come to terms with a truth that some men realised much later in their lives and would give a ballsack to have known back in their 20s.

In my 20's I used group women into women you date(girlfriends) and women you fuck(general all purpose cum dumpsters). Good girl vs Bad girl thing.

I no longer see them that way. They're all cum dumpsters. The only ones worth dating are the ones who offer themselves to you on your terms.

Only chase them to the point of sex never to the point of relationship. Once the sex stops so should your interaction with them. Move on.

Women are masters of stringing you along under the illusion of giving you sex. Male attention is female validation.

Post: #17

Interesting

Post: #18

(02-01-2012 01:26 AM)Black Quixote Wrote:  Long story short.

This solid 8. Whom I had been talking to for avery long time. We had been lightly dating, getting to know each toher etc. etc. She gets mad at me because I am an "asshole" to her. Which literally meant because she wasnt giving it up, I didnt overindulge in spending time with her. We would lay for hours kissing and talking. (blue buddies). One time she kicked me out because she was tired after hours of this. Dont get me wrong I just went for it like a champ a few times but met a brickwall. I was a very very nice guy to her by beta standards. Charming funny etc. etc. and she never truly appreciated it. She dates some chode for awhile, i talk to her again. They break up. I try again. (Breaking the one shot rule). Then, she pretends to be all in love with me again, leading me on the same as before. Next thing I know she says how I only get on chance and she just wants to be friends. I told her I didnt want to talk to her again. I say hi to her the next day offhandedly. She says I am angry at you, I heard you were talking about me and proceeds to bitch me out. I stopped. I couldnt believe after all the bullshit she put me through, and saying how nothing mattered but this or that between us and was going to stop talking to me over some bullshit someone said about me just wanting to use her. HOW COULD I USE SOMETHING I HADNT FUCKED. Now sure I had fucked other girls that not a soul knows about. But I really was with her because I liked her as a person. I made the mistake of being a nice guy again.

Never again. As far as I am concerned. No love anymore. get what I want and be done with it.

Damn, I went through the same deal 3 years ago with a Russian chick who was attracted to me, hung around, kiss around, fool around, talk, and lots of drama but no sex because "she doesn't want to get serious / what if I find a better guy?" I thought it's weird that chicks like that existed.

Learn from this and keep record of your learning if you can. Knowing what I know now and reflecting back, she was prime for escalation many times I was with her, her actions conflicted her words, and I just didn't know how to act on those cues. Would've gotten my Russian flag then...