Post: #51

(02-01-2012 09:25 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  HC,

You did the right right thing. I would have done the same because I have a strict policy about the 2-week/3-visit window (whichever comes first) as far as banging. Since she would not have made my window, I would have discarded her anyway.

I don't really take excuses well especially the "I have been busy" excuse. Hell, I worked a full-time job while going to graduate school so I am not going to be that sympathetic about how one THOUGHT their schedule was so busy.

Thanks man. Totally agree.

Post: #52

(02-01-2012 11:37 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  HC, I don't agree with the way you handled this. You went primal on the girl when you were in the zone and then you invited to this?
"So fast forward a couple of days, we decide to meetup after work. We do a happy hour (drinks, sushi, and hookah) and went dutch on the bill."

She had too much time to think. Next time this happens try to set the meet-up for a time when you are about to enter the same zone you were in when you met. Play busy. Date late= more sex

It's DC. HH is an institution, as any guy in this forum who lives there will attest. The place we happened to hit up just happened to have sushi and hookah, both of which I love.

How is that relevant to the chick's behavior? You guys are going overboard with the analysis. Doesn't make any damn sense.

You gotta understand some chicks are just wack. It has nothing to do with "game."

Post: #53

(02-01-2012 11:39 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 10:12 AM)Moma Wrote:  I fully concur, G. But sometimes we gotta go into fight, in order to grow some cajones and get strong game.

I agree.

If you really want to get better, I wouldn't do these "take aways" by text.

Texting in general is a weak form of communication other than basic facts.

"Take aways" need to be strong. When you text them, they are kind of weak by default.

Never write what you can say over the phone.

Never say over the phone what you can say in person.

Never say in person what can be said in gestures.

Never say in gestures what can be said with silence.

(G Manifesto original, right there holmes).

But again, you need to be a Monster for take aways to work. If you are not bringing heat, a take away has zero effect.

I don't necessarily disagree with this.

Texts are great for logistics and for giving instructions. In fact, if you're clear and concise, they can reflect well on your personality.

They are also a great way to cut a chick off by not dignifying her with a phone call.

It's pretty much common sense as to when a text is appropriate and when a call is. You're not going to call someone about minor details, but you shouldn't text to have a discussion.

Post: #54

I agree w/ el mech on this one......logistics are EVERYTHING

The same chicks that seem "wack" to you are getting hog tied by dudes w/ a tried and true approach. None of this PUA bullshit, just the basics

Chicks + food + hookah = beating off to alexis texas at 2 am

Post: #55

(02-01-2012 10:14 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 11:37 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  HC, I don't agree with the way you handled this. You went primal on the girl when you were in the zone and then you invited to this?
"So fast forward a couple of days, we decide to meetup after work. We do a happy hour (drinks, sushi, and hookah) and went dutch on the bill."

She had too much time to think. Next time this happens try to set the meet-up for a time when you are about to enter the same zone you were in when you met. Play busy. Date late= more sex

It's DC. HH is an institution, as any guy in this forum who lives there will attest. The place we happened to hit up just happened to have sushi and hookah, both of which I love.

How is that relevant to the chick's behavior? You guys are going overboard with the analysis. Doesn't make any damn sense.

You gotta understand some chicks are just wack. It has nothing to do with "game."

Yup yup. DC tends to attract those wack chicks too... shouldn't surprise anyone with the types of high profile jobs here.

Post: #56

(02-01-2012 05:02 PM)Smitty Wrote:  I think she was trying to add YOU to HER "netflix queue."

You need to see her again and fuck her in the ass for trying to play you!

Yeah.

She probably had an ex or someone she was still in the mix with. Had to be something. She didn't strike me as a player at all, but it's conceivable that she could have a man in her life.

That said, it's all the more reason to focus on building the harem. It's important to transition from being a manager or coach (concerned about the players on the roster) to an owner (concerned about the team).

Some players are problematic and you have to suspend them or kick them off. This is an important element to developing inner game.

Post: #57

(02-01-2012 10:24 PM)TheAntiWhiteKnight138 Wrote:  The same chicks that seem "wack" to you are getting hog tied by dudes w/ a tried and true approach. None of this PUA bullshit, just the basics

LOL. That's pure fantasy. You obviously haven't been to DC.

Post: #58

I notice that some of the guys here think "game" will allow you to have sex with just about any female. Some chicks are just retarded. It's an inevitability you'll have to accept. Any of the best players in this community will tell you. The best players are probably the ones who have failed the most. By that, I mean failed spectacularly. They've approached the best of the best, time and again, and have endured rejection (either instantly or somewhere down the line, even just short of the moment of truth--sex). This is fact.

Also, when you have to "think" about what's the best way to project masculinity or alphaness, you've already failed. That means you still have to work on your "inner game."

The way to work on your inner game is to be at one with it. Make approaches on the drop of a dime, live real experiences, approach the moment something catches your eye, time and again.

That said, even where you've internalized this, you will still encounter bullshit. After all, it takes two to tango. That's just the nature of the beast.

Even Roosh mentioned on this thread about some chick he had over last weekend who thoroughly wasted his time by not having sex.

This happens to the best of us. The worst thing you can do is waste time thinking something is wrong with you because of some chick's irrational behavior. That simply means you still have your recruiting work cut out for you.

Post: #59

You took that much time to create a profile with a picture of an indian man too? 3, 2, 1.

Anyway HC is on point in pretty much everything in this thread... especially DC.

Post: #60

(02-01-2012 10:18 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 11:39 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 10:12 AM)Moma Wrote:  I fully concur, G. But sometimes we gotta go into fight, in order to grow some cajones and get strong game.

I agree.

If you really want to get better, I wouldn't do these "take aways" by text.

Texting in general is a weak form of communication other than basic facts.

"Take aways" need to be strong. When you text them, they are kind of weak by default.

Never write what you can say over the phone.

Never say over the phone what you can say in person.

Never say in person what can be said in gestures.

Never say in gestures what can be said with silence.

(G Manifesto original, right there holmes).

But again, you need to be a Monster for take aways to work. If you are not bringing heat, a take away has zero effect.

I don't necessarily agree with this.

Texts are great for logistics and for giving instructions. In fact, if you're clear and concise, they can reflect well on your personality.

They are also a great way to cut a chick off by not dignifying her with a phone call.

It's pretty much common sense as to when a text is appropriate and when a call is. You're not going to call someone about minor details, but you shouldn't text to have a discussion.

You say "I don't necessarily agree with this."

Then write about things I have said 1000's of times on here.

I am not sure what you don't agree with that I wrote above.

I think we are 100% on the same sheet of music except that you wrote "I don't necessarily agree with this."

Post: #61

(02-01-2012 11:01 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 10:18 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 11:39 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 10:12 AM)Moma Wrote:  I fully concur, G. But sometimes we gotta go into fight, in order to grow some cajones and get strong game.

I agree.

If you really want to get better, I wouldn't do these "take aways" by text.

Texting in general is a weak form of communication other than basic facts.

"Take aways" need to be strong. When you text them, they are kind of weak by default.

Never write what you can say over the phone.

Never say over the phone what you can say in person.

Never say in person what can be said in gestures.

Never say in gestures what can be said with silence.

(G Manifesto original, right there holmes).

But again, you need to be a Monster for take aways to work. If you are not bringing heat, a take away has zero effect.

I don't necessarily agree with this.

Texts are great for logistics and for giving instructions. In fact, if you're clear and concise, they can reflect well on your personality.

They are also a great way to cut a chick off by not dignifying her with a phone call.

It's pretty much common sense as to when a text is appropriate and when a call is. You're not going to call someone about minor details, but you shouldn't text to have a discussion.

You say "I don't necessarily agree with this."

Then write about things I have said 1000's of times on here.

I am not sure what you don't agree with that I wrote above.

I think we are 100% on the same sheet of music except that you wrote "I don't necessarily agree with this."

I just changed it Gman. Meant to say *disagree. Hella tired bra. Long day.

Post: #62

(02-01-2012 08:48 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  Did the same thing to a chick here the other day.

Met her via a female friend. I have my female friend on facebook so she found my facebook and she added me.

She started messaging me which was nice because shes pretty damn cute and a nice body.

We meet for a drink and every time I go to the bathroom the dudes who work at the bar start hitting on her and radpidly disappear as soon as I return (run little rabbit, run).

Had some drinks and had my paws all over her which she seemed to respond to. Had to work early so she left early. Here is the funny part. Even though she lives with her parents and would not be able to invite me into her home if I went with her to her place she still expected me to escort her home in the taxi.

In other words, even though it was early, she wanted me to leave the bar. Go with her to her home. Wave goodbye at the door (because there is zero logistics for the lay at her place) and then take the taxi all the way back to the bar again.

Of course I said no and she did not react badly at first but starts bitching to me on facebook about not being a "gentleman" and acting all offended because I did not put her on a pedestal like every other guy does. I told her damn right I am not a gentleman, I am a man.

I then basically told her off for acting like a spoilt princess and told her to cut that crap if she wanted to hang out again.

Anyway, this Saturday I invite her out and she tells me where she is going to be with her friends and asks to meet me there. I dont show up.

I invite her out another night and she does the same thing. Tells me where she is going to be "with her friends"

Now the idea of chasing her across the city and competing with her friends for her attention is more princess crap as far as I am concerned and I tell her I am not interested in that and to cut out the princess crap.

The then gets pissed off at me for not complying and informs me that she has "1,000 guys chasing her" which only confirms to me that she expects me to be like one of them and put her on a pedestal.

I tell her "You have 1,000 guys chasing you. Great. I am not one of them. When you are ready to drop the princess crap, let me know until then I am deleting you from facebook" and then I deleted her.

Felt good.

You did great. Chicks love attention man so one of the best ways to keep them on their toes is by skillfully denying it to them.. This one has the "princess syndrome" real bad. I can't believe she wanted you to get in a cab with her just to see her home from the bar when you weren't going to go home and she wasn't able to let you go home with her. Sickening.

Post: #63

(02-01-2012 11:06 PM)Some Indian Guy Wrote:  So if you wanting touch fat white booby you needing tell white girl fuck off? i never thinking matbe tell white girl fck off i get white pussy

Post: #64

(02-01-2012 11:04 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 11:01 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 10:18 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 11:39 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 10:12 AM)Moma Wrote:  I fully concur, G. But sometimes we gotta go into fight, in order to grow some cajones and get strong game.

I agree.

If you really want to get better, I wouldn't do these "take aways" by text.

Texting in general is a weak form of communication other than basic facts.

"Take aways" need to be strong. When you text them, they are kind of weak by default.

Never write what you can say over the phone.

Never say over the phone what you can say in person.

Never say in person what can be said in gestures.

Never say in gestures what can be said with silence.

(G Manifesto original, right there holmes).

But again, you need to be a Monster for take aways to work. If you are not bringing heat, a take away has zero effect.

I don't necessarily agree with this.

Texts are great for logistics and for giving instructions. In fact, if you're clear and concise, they can reflect well on your personality.

They are also a great way to cut a chick off by not dignifying her with a phone call.

It's pretty much common sense as to when a text is appropriate and when a call is. You're not going to call someone about minor details, but you shouldn't text to have a discussion.

You say "I don't necessarily agree with this."

Then write about things I have said 1000's of times on here.

I am not sure what you don't agree with that I wrote above.

I think we are 100% on the same sheet of music except that you wrote "I don't necessarily agree with this."

I just changed it Gman. Meant to say *disagree. Hella tired bra. Long day.

We are all guilty of this! It's true because it's easy but, we're going to lose this game the longer it plays out. I would totally support a ban on texting and see how it works out.

Post: #65

ahhhhhhh!!! my eyes!!!! noooooooooooooooooooooo

I presume this clown has been banned in the past???

Post: #66

(02-01-2012 10:28 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 10:24 PM)TheAntiWhiteKnight138 Wrote:  The same chicks that seem "wack" to you are getting hog tied by dudes w/ a tried and true approach. None of this PUA bullshit, just the basics

LOL. That's pure fantasy. You obviously haven't been to DC.

Def. haven't and don't plan on it after reading all these horror stories

I was more honing in on the hookah sushi bars during happy hour. I can only picture those repulsive fat DC broads stuffing their pieholes full of sushi and hookah............wouldn't be high on my list of places to try and pick one off from, but I'll take your word that it's part of the nightlife culture.

Post: #67

(02-01-2012 12:34 AM)pitt Wrote:  ... top guy in the game was that ''DONT GET EMOTIONAL''. She flaking on me wouldnt mean shit, well specially when i already spent some money on her to go out in a date.


If i see she is not calling or texting, i do it one more time, if i think that she is just a total waste of time then i move on.
.......... i was persistent and half of them i ended up fucking, the ones that were a waste of time, i couldnt even talk to them for more than 2 minutes on the phone, so thats a big flag when you know that she is a flake.

This is a good story and viewpoint, could you elaborate on "I couldn't even talk to them for more than 2 minutes on the phone" ?

Do you mean she would start claiming "stuff to do" ; or was you got so bored because they were so dull?-- I don't understand. Thanks.

Post: #68

(02-01-2012 10:12 AM)Moma Wrote:  I fully concur, G. But sometimes we gotta go into fight, in order to grow some cajones and get strong game.

I don't do well with the 'ok' text to lizards even though that's a style that works.
I agree fully with Hen that sometimes, we need to let lizards know what time it is exactly.

I had a Ghanaian lizard that I had to check last year but my regrets is that I kind of beta'd out when I cancelled on her. She responded to me late last year in the fall via text (usually in the summer here, lizards exercise their strongest options and then fall back on their betas in the winter).

When she re-contacted me, I told her, if she is not coming to my place, then we have nothing else to talk about, standard. I'm not interested in making female friends just for the sake of it. Unless the personality gels with mine, I don't hang out with women to get wow'ed by their beauty, regardless of how fine she is.

I've never been on that. If she ain't attainable then she is as good as butt ugly in my books.

No 'ok' and no 'sure, whenever'. Let her know that you stand a certain way and that as a king (which we all are), you don't put up from rubbish from your subjects.

It actually makes it better for other cats too (even though some cats don't care about reciprocity). That means when we pick up a lizard that has been around, she will already conduct herself in a respectful fashion and not be into wasting time.

Long time lurker. Great forum. Already learned a lot.

I like the way HC handled this chick, not so much because she was taking him for a sucker and he shouldn't stand for that (though for that too) but because of what Moma says here (the bolded): it makes it better for other guys (and better for you when other guys do the same thing). If more guys acted like this I seriously doubt Toronto (where I currently live) could be as bad as it is. When broads keep dealing with guys they can sucker around, they assume every guy is a sucker.

Post: #69

(02-02-2012 01:49 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 12:34 AM)pitt Wrote:  ... top guy in the game was that ''DONT GET EMOTIONAL''. She flaking on me wouldnt mean shit, well specially when i already spent some money on her to go out in a date.


If i see she is not calling or texting, i do it one more time, if i think that she is just a total waste of time then i move on.
.......... i was persistent and half of them i ended up fucking, the ones that were a waste of time, i couldnt even talk to them for more than 2 minutes on the phone, so thats a big flag when you know that she is a flake.

This is a good story and viewpoint, could you elaborate on "I couldn't even talk to them for more than 2 minutes on the phone" ?

Do you mean she would start claiming "stuff to do" ; or was you got so bored because they were so dull?-- I don't understand. Thanks.

Usually they were very boring women. They wouldnt ask me any questions, the type of women that you would call and they would say yes and then cut short their answers in other words they were not that interested in meeting again.

On the other side, i had met women that were interested in me but i still couldnt talk with them for more than 2 minutes, i like confident and talkative women. If she is going to be quiet she better suggest without being direct that i am going to have it easy (as an example she could laugh at my sexual jokes) , otherwise i just move on, i like things that are alive, quiet women bore the shit out of me.

Post: #70

(02-03-2012 02:14 AM)Indefatigable Wrote:  

(02-01-2012 10:12 AM)Moma Wrote:  I fully concur, G. But sometimes we gotta go into fight, in order to grow some cajones and get strong game.

I don't do well with the 'ok' text to lizards even though that's a style that works.
I agree fully with Hen that sometimes, we need to let lizards know what time it is exactly.

I had a Ghanaian lizard that I had to check last year but my regrets is that I kind of beta'd out when I cancelled on her. She responded to me late last year in the fall via text (usually in the summer here, lizards exercise their strongest options and then fall back on their betas in the winter).

When she re-contacted me, I told her, if she is not coming to my place, then we have nothing else to talk about, standard. I'm not interested in making female friends just for the sake of it. Unless the personality gels with mine, I don't hang out with women to get wow'ed by their beauty, regardless of how fine she is.

I've never been on that. If she ain't attainable then she is as good as butt ugly in my books.

No 'ok' and no 'sure, whenever'. Let her know that you stand a certain way and that as a king (which we all are), you don't put up from rubbish from your subjects.

It actually makes it better for other cats too (even though some cats don't care about reciprocity). That means when we pick up a lizard that has been around, she will already conduct herself in a respectful fashion and not be into wasting time.

Long time lurker. Great forum. Already learned a lot.

I like the way HC handled this chick, not so much because she was taking him for a sucker and he shouldn't stand for that (though for that too) but because of what Moma says here (the bolded): it makes it better for other guys (and better for you when other guys do the same thing). If more guys acted like this I seriously doubt Toronto (where I currently live) could be as bad as it is. When broads keep dealing with guys they can sucker around, they assume every guy is a sucker.

Great point. I wholeheartedly agree.

I actually think DC and Toronto women are a rare breed not just in NA, but in the world.

None of the ground rules that apply to women generally work at all in DC.

A pure alpha male would not survive in DC.

The women here are practically men, and many don't even try to disguise it.

They are bold, ambitious, and completely lack femininity. They wear what they want, say what they want, eat what they want, and could care less what a man thinks about it. They simply exist for themselves and no one else.

A normal alpha male actually has to incorporate some beta behavior to be at all successful in DC. Even so, that "success" is entirely relative. The best he might be able to do is what might be considered a 6 in NYC, LA, or Miami.

I don't even disagree with the input from guys like Pitt and El Mechanico regarding this situation. It's just that it doesn't have any relevance in DC.

That's one of the reasons I love to travel so much, even within the US. There's no woman as deplorable as the breed of woman in DC.

Going forward, there should be a disclaimer on all threads related to women here. Toronto could arguably be mentioned alongside, but I still don't think it's as bad as DC.

Post: #71

I know the current state of Toronto but damn....it's still hard to believe that Toronto was the place that I would leave work in DC at 4pm just so I could get to the Toronto clubs by 11:30pm. I mean we LIVED to spend our weekends in Toronto.

Yeah, it was the 90's and maybe 2000 but who would have thought Toronto would have deteriorated to this current state so fast.

Post: #72

(02-03-2012 01:53 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  I know the current state of Toronto but damn....it's still hard to believe that Toronto was the place that I would leave work in DC at 4pm just so I could get to the Toronto clubs by 11:30pm. I mean we LIVED to spend our weekends in Toronto.

Yeah, it was the 90's and maybe 2000 but who would have thought Toronto would have deteriorated to this current state so fast.

Toronto is wack now. I don't even have any enthusiasm when I go out now, I am just counting down my hours till departure.

Post: #73

(02-03-2012 01:56 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(02-03-2012 01:53 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  I know the current state of Toronto but damn....it's still hard to believe that Toronto was the place that I would leave work in DC at 4pm just so I could get to the Toronto clubs by 11:30pm. I mean we LIVED to spend our weekends in Toronto.

Yeah, it was the 90's and maybe 2000 but who would have thought Toronto would have deteriorated to this current state so fast.

Toronto is wack now. I don't even have any enthusiasm when I go out now, I am just counting down my hours till departure.

That's a shame because Toronto is super multicultural. You would think there'd be some pickings among all those international chicks. I was there last summer hanging out with a chick I know from Brazil, so I had a good time. But I could just tell from walking around and going out in TO that it just isn't the spot if you don't have moves lined up. It has nothing on Montreal.

Still, at least it has Caribana, which many of my friends have been to. I've never been, but DC has nothing the brings people like that.

Post: #74

(02-03-2012 01:59 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  That's a shame because Toronto is super multicultural. You would think there'd be some pickings among all those international chicks. I was there last summer hanging out with a chick I know from Brazil, so I had a good time. But I could just tell from walking around and going out in TO that it just isn't the spot if you don't have moves lined up. It has nothing on Montreal.

Still, at least it has Caribana, which many of my friends have been to. I've never been, but DC has nothing the brings people like that.

I wanna check out DC still. I read somewhere that it's called Chocolate city, I wanna see how the dark lizards match up to a cat with an accent comme moi.

Post: #75

(02-03-2012 02:02 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(02-03-2012 01:59 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  That's a shame because Toronto is super multicultural. You would think there'd be some pickings among all those international chicks. I was there last summer hanging out with a chick I know from Brazil, so I had a good time. But I could just tell from walking around and going out in TO that it just isn't the spot if you don't have moves lined up. It has nothing on Montreal.

Still, at least it has Caribana, which many of my friends have been to. I've never been, but DC has nothing the brings people like that.

I wanna check out DC still. I read somewhere that it's called Chocolate city, I wanna see how the dark lizards match up to a cat with an accent comme moi.

Yeah, that label used to apply, but I think Atlanta has overtaken DC as being "Chocolate City." DC actually now has the fastest growing white population of any major American city. It's rapidly gentrifying and increasingly becoming wealthier, and less "cooler." Socially, it just doesn't match up to what Atlanta can offer.

I wouldn't recommend visiting DC at all, unless you already have cool friends here that run in good social circles.