Roosh V Forum - Politics

The Hidden Tribes of America

Wed, 22 May 2019 14:25:31 -0400

Here's a report seeking to classify the political affiliations into more distinct groups than the typical left vs right paradigm we usually see. The groups are:

- Progressive Activists
- Traditional Liberals
- Passive Liberals
- Politically Disengaged
- Moderates
- Traditional Conservatives
- Devoted Conservatives

The factors that were examined to determine the distinctions between each group religious adherence, trust in institutions to effect change vs the need for radical reform, the level of political engagement, belief in self reliance vs outside circumstances for personal success.

Something that struck me was how progressive activists were the second smallest group in terms of raw numbers but how they have a disproportionate amount of influence in driving debates in the US. One of their traits is that they are "highly engaged with social media". I wonder if a lot of the black pill mood that has fallen over this forum is that people like us tend to be very internet based as well and hence, we get exposed a lot to the the craziness (10 year old drag queens) than the typical person doesn't see

https://hiddentribes.us/profiles

Dan Crenshaw thread

Sun, 19 May 2019 22:20:24 -0400

Dan Crenshaw

Surprised this gent doesn't have a thread of his own already... (or did I miss it? I could only few brief mentions)

Some say Crenshaw for POTUS 2024

Ex-Navy SEAL? Say no more... Dan Crenshaw - Wikipedia

Here he is red-pilling some college kids:

First time I've heard a politician refer to Johnathon Haidt's psychological breakdown on the different values held by voters across the political spectrum - great book, much respect.

The Trump of Denmark?

Fri, 10 May 2019 20:04:20 -0400

For the last year or so, a former lawyer has been touring Denmark with registered protests where he goes to ghetto areas, throws around the Quran, calls it the book of whores, and lights it on fire. Naturally, the police are present at all these protests because many Muslims want to kill him. Just recently, Muslims started fires on the streets and destroyed cars in Copenhagen for a night following one of his protests. With his YouTube channel where he recorded all these events, he made it to 20k signatures, and now his political party is in the race of this current election.

In the first debate a few days ago, he sent quite a shock to the other party leaders who are used to political correctness.

https://twitter.com/BenJonesGI/status/11...1897953282

There are other similarly interesting clips of him. And he is gaining quite a lot of support.

This is just fyi.

What I'm wondering is:

He wants to 1) stop future immigration, 2) deport everyone with asylum or currently seeking asylum, 3) deport everyone with citizenship not granted from birth and with a past criminal conviction, and 4) deport everyone with citizenship not granted from birth who don't work and only receive government welfare.

What are your thoughts on those measures as a solution to the problem?

Which group is responsible for the predicament that Western Civilization finds itself

Tue, 07 May 2019 18:22:42 -0400

After reading all the posts from many of the members here in the forum, I think it would be a good idea to tie all the loose ends into one megapost and for everyone to ask ourselves which group bears the major responsibility for what is going on with Western Civilization. I say this because everyone has their favorite groups to blame, but I think we need to pinpoint the origin. So I am creating this poll to find out who is the source of the miasma affecting Western Civilization.

Here are the following options:

(((The usual suspects)))
Women
Christianity
Insecure and weak Beta and Gamma males posing as alphas
The elites (non (((usual suspects)))) who have fallen into decadence
Leftists and leftist allies
Degenerate alpha males who misuse their gifts
Red-pilled men (ourselves) because we have forgotten the lessons of history

After thinking about it (and spending so much time reading the posts and thinking back as to what happened from a historical point of view), I think we red-pilled men ourselves are to blame because we sat on our laurels and forgotten what it means to struggle. We became lazy, forgot the lessons of the past and permitted the miasma to infiltrate our societies and feminized us. Yeah, we can argue until the cows come home about the other groups listed above and how they corrupted society. Make no mistake, they definitely deserve blame, but we redpilled men ourselves forgot that we are God's hunters, orderkeepers and maintainers of Western society and now we have work to do to fix the problems at hand. There are many solutions to fix the problem, but every red-pilled man has the capability to be part of the solution.

The Proposed TV Commercial That Guarantees Trump a Landslide Victory

Sat, 04 May 2019 12:09:39 -0400

This would be a funny as hell political advertsiement!

Quote:The TV commercial I envision starts with beautiful, precious little children running towards an ice cream truck — with their proud parents watching nearby. Everyone is happy, smiling, playing, dancing, dreaming of the delicious ice cream they are about to eat.

The parents watch their kids while they walk towards a McDonalds next to the ice cream truck.

Suddenly, the children are happy no more. They are hysterical, shocked, crying, screaming. They run back to mommy and daddy. They’ve been told, no more ice cream, ever. Because of the Green New Deal, Democrats have banned milk and killed all the cows… therefore no more ice cream. After all, cows fart.

The parents look dazed too. They’ve just found out they can never again eat burgers, or cheeseburgers, or hot dogs, ever. Democrats have killed the cows and banned meat.

Suddenly a dazed neighbor comes running onto the scene to report the town’s steakhouse has been shut down. He reports the owner has been arrested by the meat police.

The families race to the supermarket next door to find one last taste of cheese, butter, cream cheese, yogurt. But thanks to Democrats it’s all gone. The dairy row says, “Closed. Dairy is banned due to the Democrat Green New Deal.”

When they come out to their cars to leave...

Their cars are gone. Towed to scrap yard. Cars are now illegal. They run on filthy fossil fuel that has been banned by Democrats.

Cut to scene of the family arriving home on a donkey cart, burning candles to light their way. But their home is gone. In its place is a tent. The Green New Deal has knocked down all their homes. Everyone will live in tents until new energy-efficient homes can be built by robots.

The children are crying hysterically. The parents are shocked, dirty, and defeated.

The ad ends with this message…

“Vote for Trump and every GOP candidate up and down the ticket like your job, your income, your children’s future depends on it. Because it does...

It’s Trump, or the end of America and the great American middle class."

https://www.newsmax.com/wayneallynroot/t...050442of6y

Getting Involved

Thu, 02 May 2019 09:16:14 -0400

RVF Crew, I've got a follow up question to something that popped up in a thread and my searches aren't helping me find it. It's also a big enough topic that it may warrant its own thread.

Backround and question: I currently live near a major US metropolitan area. I'm looking to ramp up my network substantially and I think that political involvement may be a good way to meet a lot of high profile business leaders and the like.

Disclaimer is that for me it is ENTIRELY about getting what I want and I'm hoping to just add some value to some other campaign or something. I am also not particularly interested in the street level politics like going door to door or anything like that and am hoping to support more organizational aspects (any activity that will get me access to the fundraiser crowd). I do have a resume with sufficient brand-name presence on it that I should be able to get into that kind of role if I know how to go about it.

For those of you who have done this how do I get started?

Stanford University - How The Delusion of Diversity Destroys Our Common Humanity

Wed, 01 May 2019 02:00:41 -0400

Heather MacDonald shares her opinions at Stanford University's Hoover Institution.

She was courageous to discuss unpopular topics. She doesn't care what the PC police thinks. Normies are waking up to the social engineering of clown world.

Read the YouTube comments.

#crusadeagainstmen

Ok,Simeon_Strangelight,time to thrash out this low/high IQ thing once and for all

Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:11:13 -0400

I've been a lurker since late last year I've read all sections and couldn't help but notice you constantly refer to the collective IQ of certain groups as 'low.' I've also noticed you use MSM sources,the usual chronicle of 'rapefugees,'criminals and TV memes to support this contention-being closer to 50 than 40 having travelled,though not as much as close fam I've got info totally contradicting this.
I thought long and hard how I could do this-nobody will read a mininovel and frankly an African subforum on economics and politics would be an even harder sell. So,here goes with sources cause I've got totally non MSM info:Yes,Africa is poor,mainly because we were always poor! One would think the colonialists left us Scandinavia-hell no! We were and still are primary producers the prices for which have fallen as much as 50% since the 1980s while oil has more than quintupled since the early 70s.
Also egregious trade agreements screw us sideways in was you wouldn't believe;forget the transfer pricing and under invoicing that robs Africa-I'm talking official state sanctioned impoverishment policies the best example being French Africa.

Quote:Few people know it. But there are indeed secret agreements signed between the former French colonies and their former administrative authority, France. These agreements cover many areas, such as military, politics, but especially economic agreements....African countries must deposit their financial reserves with the Banque de France. Thus, France "keeps" the financial reserves of fourteen African countries since 1961: Benin, Burkina Faso, Guinea Bissau, Ivory Coast, Mali, Niger, Senegal, Togo, Cameroon, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo-Brazzaville, Equatorial Guinea and Gabo

http://http://africa24.info/2018/08/14/l...la-france/
The poster boy of Western hemisphere 'low IQ' Haiti paid France 17 bn GBP after independence.

Quote:But after independence, French slave owners demanded compensation. In 1825 the French monarch Charles X demanded Haiti pay an "independence debt" of 150m gold francs – 10 times the fledgling nation's annual revenue. The original sum was reduced but Haiti still paid 90m gold francs – about €17bn today – to France. It was still paying off this debt in 1947.

http://https://www.theguardian.com/world...dence-debt
What if just 50% of that money went into social spending? Where would Haiti be today? The same thing happened to French Africa-generally its known they're worse off than Anglo Africa. I've seen a write up stating W African money as of 2012 held by Paris was at least 500 bn euros.

As for mental acuity and intellectual achievement let me begin with this:
Go to 5.40mns and see which kids crushed both white and black US and UK kids in motor and mental skills-it wasn't even close!
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spd9durZnTs

Ever heard of Adam's Calendar? A set of megalithic ruins in southern Africa estimated to be 70 kya to 250 kya. Who built them? The same people who dug the canals on Northwestern Botswana and Northeastern Namibia thousands of years later.

Quote:The entire complex covers an area about equal in size to the State of Arizona in the USA. The canals are an integrated system of apparent irrigation and agricultural (and probably aquaculture) design. The system is about 350 miles in width and about 300 miles in depth. (For the remnants still visible.) This system represents roughly 67 MILLION acres of sustainable agriculture. Given the sophistication of design, it is entirely plausible to assume an above average yield, i.e. feeding well over 90 persons per acre on an annual basis. The system may or may not have provided a sustainable aquaculture (marine farming) environment. I have no reason to suspect that it did not.

http://http://earthepochs.blogspot.com/2...earth.html

Heard of the Xia dynasty who started 1500 bc in China? You'll never guess who they were according to craniometrics,dental morphology and even language though a Chinese scientists put their identity in the MSM 3 years ago.
In March a geochemist prof.Sun Weidong at University of Science and Technology Heifei,Anhui province,eastern China indirectly corroborated many of these research findings when he revealed the ancient Xia dynasty had Egyptian roots.

Quote:He also cited several ancient Chinese classics, at one point quoting historian Sima Qian’s description of the topography of the Xia empire — traditionally regarded as China’s founding dynasty, dating from 2070 to 1600 B.C. “Northwards the stream is divided and becomes the nine rivers,” wrote Sima Qian in his first century historiography, the Records of the Grand Historian. “Reunited, it forms the opposing river and flows into the sea.”
In other words, “the stream” in question wasn’t China’s famed Yellow River, which flows from west to east. “There is only one major river in the world which flows northwards. Which one is it?” the professor asked. “The Nile,” someone replied. Sun then showed a map of the famed Egyptian river and its delta — with nine of its distributaries flowing into the Mediterranean. This author, a researcher at the same institute, watched as audience members broke into smiles and murmurs, intrigued that these ancient Chinese texts seemed to better agree with the geography of Egypt than that of China.

[url]http://http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/02/did-chinese-civilization-come-from-ancient-egypt-archeological-debate-at-heart-of-china-national-identity/
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As a long time history researcher I'd always known ancient Africa/Asia links but my conclusion was a slow multi generational overland migration. The Prof's conclusion strongly suggests a direct journey from Egypt.

Quote:He conceived of this connection in the 1990s while performing radiometric dating of ancient Chinese bronzes; to his surprise, their chemical composition more closely resembled those of ancient Egyptian bronzes than native Chinese ores.

You've repeatedly stated we never had a written script:nothing could be further from the truth.Idk if we've any Ethio posters but their ancient script Geez influenced Indian Devanagari.
Here's Geez and Sanskrit/nagari. It was known over a century ago. Sir William Jones discovered the 2 scripts were identical-however it remained hidden in obscure specialist publications known only to an elite few while the public believed Africa had no writing and those better informed believed geez was influenced by nagari. Moreover, it is interesting to note that Sanskrit vowels: a,aa,',I,u,e,o, virama etc., are in the same order as Geez.
http://http://bafsudralam.blogspot.com/2...ng-of.html

Btw,scripts as far as C Europe are based on Geez.

Quote:Historical Overview of Ethiopic Writing System's Possible Influence on the Development of the Armenian Alphabet

http://https://www.jstor.org/stable/2782...b_contents

Makes sense since their Orthodox Christianity has the same origin-I could go on with more indigenous African scripts,ancient architecture/building and global migrations but I'll first await your response.I hope the wider picture of a not so 'low IQ' is finally emerging.

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The Pink Pill

Sat, 27 Apr 2019 22:28:57 -0400

Something rarely spoken about, but extremely fascinating.

I remember one of the first first few videos put on restricted mode on youtube was by Black pigeon speaks along the lines of women's effect on civilization and it got me thinking.

Have you ever noticed when you watch or listen to almost any type of media, whether it be film, TV, news and even music and asked yourself...Who is this catered for?

The answer seems to be almost universally women. Emotionally provocative media aimed at women.

They don't even bother try blue pilling men , Its as if they are not even factored into the bigger picture.

Roosh recently mentioned that most women can not be Redpilled like men, which offers a big insight into differences in our psychology, and it got me thinking...What form would a pink pill take?

Joe Biden thread

Thu, 25 Apr 2019 06:53:19 -0400

Well it looks like Creepy Joe Biden will announce his candidacy for President today.

This article claims he's leading among Democrat voters.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how...omination/

Should be an interesting primary race as the Democrat party keeps getting more and more extreme. Many in the party don't like him simply because he is a white male. He's probably the least left of the 20 or so democrat candidates, and I'm interested to see how far left they will pull him. The further left he goes, the bigger Trump's margin will be.

Conservathots

Thu, 25 Apr 2019 06:52:17 -0400

Noxious attention whores trolling with constant snark and snide.

Politically right, but culturally decadent: embodying pussy privilege and trading off of their looks and the thirst of men.

Captain Capitalism: How Tradthots prove Western Civilization is Doomed

Quote:a spoiled child from the suburbs,
living on Daddy's dime,
attending a prestigious private college,
majoring in a worthless degree,
never worked a DAY in her life,
who couldn't possibly have the life experience to be sought after or championed by the conservative establishment

yet

she gets on all the talk shows,
all the middle aged men in media pulling her favors,
a publishing deal from Random House,
for a millennial driveling book (though not a pamphlet like Laura Southern's),
paid speaking gigs,
and a plethora of other perks and preferential treatment that culminates into what is nothing short than an entire FREE life long career,

just because she's a cute set of T & A.

I got the idea for this off of Sam B. Roberts cite of this tweet:

Another infamous one. You ain't that hot:

Never let a tragedy stop you from making lame snarks.

Niall Ferguson interviewed by John Anderson

Wed, 24 Apr 2019 11:05:56 -0400

I watched this entire interview last night and highly recommend it as being worth your time. In it Niall covers topics discussed in the forum such as Trump, the rise of populism and decline of public trust in the west, AOC and the increasing interest in socialism, censorship, Brexit, “woke” (SJW influenced) capitalism, and the future of China (both economically and it’s geopolitical aims for the future).

He drinks some Scotch whisky so it gets even more interesting as he loosens up increasingly towards the end.

One thing he doesn’t really get into much (or skirts around the edges of) that we discuss here often are demographic changes (i.e. driving the decline in trust and increasing political divisiveness) and I suppose that may be his blind spot. (This is typical of many boomers.) Nevertheless, this is very informative as he is very intelligent and well-spoken. This is the kind of stuff Youtube is great for in my opinion, content that normally wouldn’t be seen on American television (too long and academic).

Ukraine about to elect jewish comedian as president

Sun, 21 Apr 2019 11:58:44 -0400

acting as a stooge for jewish criminal oligarch Ihor Kolomonsky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi

Quote:Many people also fear if Zelensky becomes a president, the country will be run from the shadows by self-exiled oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky.

What's wrong with Ukrainians?

Are they really that stupid to elect a criminal jewish oligarch as president?

Swedish men paying women 170 000 USD over a lifetime

Fri, 19 Apr 2019 15:20:20 -0400

This is so fucked up and why I am leaving.

According to a calculation the government has made a man born in 2020 will pay 170 000 USD more in taxes over the course of his life than what he gets back in subsidies, compensation or services. A woman born the same year will on average receive 182 000 USD more than what she pays into in the form of taxes and fees.

This is because men work more and pay more in taxes then what women do while women get more in subsidies. Women live longer then men so they get more in pension.

On a big Scandinavian forum there's even a guy that claims it's 430 000 USD, have asked him for source but the has yet to provide one.

source: http://www.friatider.se/regeringen-kvinn...mer-an-man

Here's a 10-step program for restoring US society/economy and society

Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:56:02 -0400

This is where I personally predict US society is headed in the next 15-20 years.

The first 5 steps are economic policy, the second 5 steps are social changes.

1. Shut the borders economically. Abollsh the h1b and h2b program. Shut down trade of all manufactured good with China, and all IT services/software with India. That doesn't mean becoming a hermit kingdom, it just means the US goes back to being self-sufficient and having a policy of protecting it's own citizens first, as it was for centuries. We join Japan, China, Korea, and other nations that already do this.
2. Focus on a program of training, job protection, and upskilling. Double the average wage of the middle class (beyond inflation) thus restoring the middle class to it's historic wage position.
3. Massive automation and AI to raise standards of living. Gonna happen anyway, but as in the past, it can be handled smartly and produce more jobs than it destroys.
4. Adoption of Bitcoin as reserve currency for US.
5. Huge building spree to make housing widely available at low prices to all citizens. Government policies directed at ending the "renter" society and intentionally lowering real estate prices.

- Social -

6. Abolish no-fault divorce and most forms of abortion.
7. 100% return of gays and transexuals to the closet. Removal of their agendas from the public discourse. Otherwise leave them be.
8. Massive social programs to focus women (and therefore men) on marriage and family. Women who have 2 or more kids get to join a club that idolizes them in some kind of "hall of fame".
9. Large scale return to religion. Whatever kind, we don't care.
10. Recognition that the excesses of the hippy generation -- free sex, self-indulgence, and narcissism -- was an evil historical aberration.

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Please post your own 10-step policies or intelligent (non-trolling) critique of my policies below. If you don't like this thread and just want to trash it, get off my lawn.

The Trump bio thread

Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:37:47 -0400

Things are getting a little heated in the Trump thread and I think this would be an interesting detour from that. A lot has been written about Obama and many guys have speculated about his origins, contacts, etc. I think it is time to take a look at who exactly Trump is, how he grew up, his business deals, the people he surrounded himself with, and his overall personality and demeanor.

NOTE: this is not meant as Trump-bashing, although I'm discovering more and more unsavory things about his past. Hopefully we can get different perspectives here. If you've read a Trump bio, share some insights on what you learned or some cool trivia that the rest of us may not be aware of. Let's try to keep it about information BEFORE his candidacy and presidency. Please try to avoid discussing his current policies, campaign promises, etc. (unless you're posting videos from the 80s and 90s where Trump discussed those things). That's not what this thread is for. I'd love to hear what you guys have. Hopefully, we can just share tidbits and info without resorting to name-calling. I've been guilty of that myself and wanna get away from that.

What got me into this in the first place is Wayne Barrett, who I wrote about previously in the Trump thread. He was not only Trump's unofficial biographer, but also Ed Koch's and I believe Giuliani. Anyway, I posted this interview with him:

https://newrepublic.com/article/139094/t...ne-barrett

Here's a snippet of Trump's Atlantic City fiasco:

Quote:His first hotel, Trump Plaza, you literally drive off the expressway and you drive right into his parking garage and then they have a moving sidewalk and you get out of the car and get on the moving sidewalk and it carries you right into the casino and there’s no windows in the casino and so you can literally go to Atlantic City without ever seeing Atlantic City. He didn’t keep any of the promises, he never built a single housing unit. He was supposed to build housing in exchange for all the benefits, the zoning benefits and all the other permits he got, which were quite extensive on all of his properties there.

I've also ordered his bio on Trump and will be reviewing it later. But in the meantime, please discuss!

Facebook: Standing Against Hate

Wed, 27 Mar 2019 18:09:09 -0400

I think this should have been already posted by now? but I didn't see it and I think it deserves its own thread.

tl;dr: Facebook to ban white nationalist content in a few weeks

Today we’re announcing a ban on praise, support and representation of white nationalism and separatism on Facebook and Instagram, which we’ll start enforcing next week. It’s clear that these concepts are deeply linked to organized hate groups and have no place on our services.

Our policies have long prohibited hateful treatment of people based on characteristics such as race, ethnicity or religion — and that has always included white supremacy. We didn’t originally apply the same rationale to expressions of white nationalism and separatism because we were thinking about broader concepts of nationalism and separatism — things like American pride and Basque separatism, which are an important part of people’s identity.

But over the past three months our conversations with members of civil society and academics who are experts in race relations around the world have confirmed that white nationalism and separatism cannot be meaningfully separated from white supremacy and organized hate groups. Our own review of hate figures and organizations – as defined by our Dangerous Individuals & Organizations policy – further revealed the overlap between white nationalism and separatism and white supremacy. Going forward, while people will still be able to demonstrate pride in their ethnic heritage, we will not tolerate praise or support for white nationalism and separatism.

We also need to get better and faster at finding and removing hate from our platforms. Over the past few years we have improved our ability to use machine learning and artificial intelligence to find material from terrorist groups. Last fall, we started using similar tools to extend our efforts to a range of hate groups globally, including white supremacists. We’re making progress, but we know we have a lot more work to do.

Our efforts to combat hate don’t stop here. As part of today’s announcement, we’ll also start connecting people who search for terms associated with white supremacy to resources focused on helping people leave behind hate groups. People searching for these terms will be directed to Life After Hate, an organization founded by former violent extremists that provides crisis intervention, education, support groups and outreach.

Unfortunately, there will always be people who try to game our systems to spread hate. Our challenge is to stay ahead by continuing to improve our technologies, evolve our policies and work with experts who can bolster our own efforts. We are deeply committed and will share updates as this process moves forward.

Link: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/03/sta...inst-hate/

The Beta O'Rourke Thread

Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:47:07 -0400

The name says it all - he's cool though, he skateboards onto stage and also plays electric guitar (a bit too high up his body)

He's even got the Obama pursed-lips mannerism (guess he's been studying his videos a lot)

The white Obama perhaps?

Seems to be the queer boys' candidate of choice too (Trudeauism)

I have nothing else to say about him - total wimp by the looks of it, Beta indeed. Seems most of his embarrassing moments captured on video have all been purged from YouTube - I think they might be behind this guy....

Bush actually had a logical reason for attacking Iraq

Mon, 18 Mar 2019 12:40:05 -0400

When Bush and Cheney decided to kick the crap out of Iraq, they had almost no support in Congress or the world. But they did it anyway.

Why?

Some people think it was a stupid move, but like many at the time, I never thought it was stupid. Harsh, yes, but in the eyes of many, necessary to the future of the world.

The middle eastern countries had attacked the US on 9/11. They used terrorism and thus, could disclaim personal responsiblity. Bush and Cheney knew they had to nip this in the bud. The entire basis of world peace is this: if your country attacks a big nation, you will be obliterated. But using terrorists, the Iraq/Iran/Saudis had undercut that system. If that trend were allowed to continue, the next step would be, you would have nukes set off in Wash DC. That would destroy world peace utterly. It was a very dangerous situation and Bush, as president, had to stop it by any means necessary. That was his job.

So he randomly picked a middle-eastern nation. Yawn. Well, why not Iraq? Good choice. Evil dictator, had already pissed on America's leg, had a seemingly huge army. Great choice.

So Bush stomped Iraq, as a man might stomp a bug. He did so without anybody's approval. He didn't ask or care if Iraq was the main aggressor. He was conveying a message, that if terrorism was used, anybody with even a partial connection to the terrorists could and would be destroyed.

All the nations of the world were reminded: "oh fuck, the US military can stomp us casually, any time, with or without UN approval."

It was the perfect demonstration. It conveyed the message that the POTUS wanted to convey.

After his term of office, Bush essentially went into political exile, knowing that his choice would forever darken his reputation, but he is regularly visited by American citizens, who thank him for doing what needed to be done.

Of course there are many evils that have come from this choice. There are many evils that come from any situation like this. But the choice still has to be made.

The Ilhan Omar thread

Thu, 14 Mar 2019 12:48:56 -0400

Thoughts, commentary and would you bang?