Post: #51

(11-08-2014 12:02 AM)future Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 11:45 PM)Deluge Wrote:  It's a lot easier to blame race for not doing well, then being a beginner or your looks

I want to blame the true culprit. Can't blame not getting matches on Tinder on my game skills. So it's either race or looks. It could very well be looks, I am not sure.

In any case, I've been working on improving both looks and game skills.

Are you matching with hot brown girls?

Most guys think they're better looking then they actually are. Which is a good thing for their confidence but a bad thing for motivating them to improve their looks.

(11-08-2014 12:31 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  I think in terms of attraction, Asian and Indian dudes need to be 1 point above their equivalent-looking white counterparts in the Anglosphere -- i.e. a Asian/Indian 7 would rate the same as a white 6.

It doesn't work like that. OKC studies looked at this and found that white women give minority men the same ratings on their looks as women of their own race. It's more about their openness to it, rather than a universal point deduction.

(11-08-2014 12:31 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  I don't think I'm average-looking -- I had a gay friend judge me as "cute, and would rate me highly" just to get an idea -- but for the above reason I'm not giving up on working on what I can on looks and game.

You are above average looking, I think you could learn to photograph better though you look better in real life than in pics. You could get a better haircut, get away with a non-corporate hair style while you can. You dress better than most men, but too young compared to what you can get away with. Your style isn't incongruent but if I was your age I'd be starting to wear suits regularly now. You ought to lift but I think you know that already. Above all though I'd work on your verbal game and delivery, I think that's where you can get the most marginal benefit at the moment.

Post: #52

(11-08-2014 12:55 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Are you matching with hot brown girls?

I used Tinder for a month last year and got two matches one was a bot and the other was a fat overaged mom.

I am horrible at judging men's looks and so can't judge my own. I am probably at least avg looking. I can only try to remember the rare feedback I've got in the past which was all positive, but that might just be because people who think I am ugly will not say so openly.

Post: #53

(11-08-2014 01:08 AM)future Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:55 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Are you matching with hot brown girls?

I used Tinder for a month last year and got two matches one was a bot and the other was a fat overaged mom.

You've just answered your race or looks question.

You can't complain about race and white girls where you live, when you can't even attract your own race where you live.

Post: #54

(11-07-2014 01:52 PM)Lothario Wrote:  Excellent contribution Cobra, Another + 1 from me if Roosh would allow it. I will put in my 2 cents and see if it can help other brown Players.

I have been through the entire gambit from asking myself why would these white Girls not give me the time of the day ? and would rather go out with a broke Redneck. It bothered me significantly as to why as a successful man with a sucessful career I am not able to attract these white girls to a point that delved into Game/Manosphere & thanks to high heavens landed on RVF and called it home, finally started realizing it was my brown habits and ways of dressing that were keeping them to getting attracted to me.

Not an easy process but over a peroid of last 5 years it has gone from Roosh saying "This is worst reaction I have seen from White Girls" to Cobra saying recently "He's like a Prince and is treating Girls like his concubines"

I started working all the facets at the same time, Working Out, Eating clean and better, Dressing better, Woking on my accent, Using my tongue muscle, telling stories, fixing my Inner game, Head Hunting the Top Guys on the forum and gaming with them is US from East coast to West Coast ... I had the same hurdles like Cobra mentioned . I used to mentally place white girls above me and they can sense that a mile away, now after banging the best of them I don't care anymore.

Some Golden words that I picked up here and there

Giovonny: while trying to help me wrote "Find white Girls that embrace your brownness" what he meant from that was to find the alternative white girls that dig Yoga, Spices, Bhangra. These are the girls who would be wearing the Bob Marley shirt, doing Ganga etc.

Change your hunting ground brown players if you are having trouble, come down south to Nashville, TN and see what kind of response you get. with time location wouldn't matter as much when you are the Most interesting man in the Room.

Entropy4(Mark Manson): In his book Models he writes that stuck with me

" What creates Attraction for people with different race is do something that entirely not stereotypical of your culture"

A light bulb aha kinda moment for me. Now Imagine a Brown Guy in Midwest with a Big Belt Buckle , Wearing Frye Suede Square Toe Cow Boy boots with Crisp Selvedge Jeans, driving a 69 Challanger. Girls do Stop, Look and then look again. They are Intrigued/curious and want to know your story, craft a great one ......That's your foot in, you still have to do the rest of the work and in some cases just play the Fuck up avoidance game.

Krauser: quoted mark manson "Your Opinion of yourself is more Important then any one else's opinion about yourself"

That fixed me Inner Sticky of putting them White girls on a pedestal. There are going to be girls who will not be attracted to you peroid, but work on yourself and that number goes down plus the fact that there are million of girls to be hit on, It still is a numbers game.

Reiterating what has already been said in the thread, A lot of Social Conditioning has to be shed, like being humble, turning the other cheek when some one slaps you. Over the peroid of years I have gone from being the most humble guy ever to the Nice Guy that you don't want to cross. The other day I said a firm NO to my boss to a request that was unfair to me and he understood my point, 5 yrs ago I would have been happy to do it just to avoid the confrontation. same thing applies today to all my relationships even my parent. get it my fellow brown folks.

Happy Hunting out there fellow brown Rooshers.

Lothario gets it. And I've seen him in action. So...

Post: #55

Are there any indians on this forum living in India?

Any advice on approaching women in India?

Right now all I rely on is my social circle and tinder.

Post: #56

I mean, Hrithik Roshan is a famous actor and sex symbol. The other dude looks like a manual laborer somewhere in Madras. Not quite a fair comparison.

I think this is a GREAT thread though. I used to have some of the IRT traits myself, including blaming my lack of success on my race. Of course, I wasn't failing with girls because of my race, I was failing because I was being wussy and didn't have good game. Race matters less than a lot of us think.

Post: #57

(11-07-2014 12:08 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 08:15 AM)Deluge Wrote:  The dude from Heroes, Tamil

I'd say I definently look like Tamil and a bit of Kal Penn.

Just to clarify, Tamil is an ethnic group. I'm mostly ethnically Tamil (Tamil Brahmin specifically) with about 3% English/Scottish admixture.

If you're into HBD stuff, Razib Khan is excellent at explaining ethnic and racial categories in the Indian context.

Post: #58

(11-08-2014 01:08 AM)future Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:55 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Are you matching with hot brown girls?

I used Tinder for a month last year and got two matches one was a bot and the other was a fat overaged mom.

I am horrible at judging men's looks and so can't judge my own. I am probably at least avg looking. I can only try to remember the rare feedback I've got in the past which was all positive, but that might just be because people who think I am ugly will not say so openly.

I've been on Tinder since April or so, very half-heartedly though. I have a mediocre picture (with me and a female friend in it, I look kind of dopey), and I let my friend Karen write the profile for me and haven't been bothered to change it.

Having said that, while I haven't had any dates/sex from Tinder (not that I'm really looking, I'm more on Tinder to help comfort my ego), I've got a bunch of matches. About 30-40% of them are from girls 18-21, and the remainder are older (given that I'm 33, that's pretty nice).

In terms of 'looks', I probably look somewhere between the guy from Heroes and the dark skinned Dravidian guy in the picture (though of course I don't have that ridiculous mustrache).

Post: #59

(11-09-2014 09:00 AM)Pestilence Wrote:  Are there any indians on this forum living in India?

Any advice on approaching women in India?

Right now all I rely on is my social circle and tinder.

I used to live in India six years ago and the only game I ever did was during college festivals. Many girls visit from outside and if you're a local, it's easy to go talk to them. I was at the Ivy League equivalent of India, and at least in India these things give you high status.

But game has probably evolved a lot since then. I had no idea that Tinder has become popular in India! What do you do currently? Are you a student? I don't know anything about the night scene but I've heard that there are places in bigger cities like Bombay, Delhi, Bangalore where people go for hookups.

Post: #60

(11-09-2014 01:37 PM)future Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 09:00 AM)Pestilence Wrote:  Are there any indians on this forum living in India?

Any advice on approaching women in India?

Right now all I rely on is my social circle and tinder.

I used to live in India six years ago and the only game I ever did was during college festivals. Many girls visit from outside and if you're a local, it's easy to go talk to them. I was at the Ivy League equivalent of India, and at least in India these things give you high status.

But game has probably evolved a lot since then. I had no idea that Tinder has become popular in India! What do you do currently? Are you a student? I don't know anything about the night scene but I've heard that there are places in bigger cities like Bombay, Delhi, Bangalore where people go for hookups.

Statistically, India has one of the highest proportions of women who don't believe in premarital sex. Indian women also tend to be very cautious of guys, due to all the rape and harassment, so I would expect they're pretty difficult to meet & pick up. (I go to India every few years, most recently Christmas 2012-2013, but never really have tried meeting women there).

All in all, it's probably not one of the better countries as the dating market goes. I'd be pessimistic.

Post: #61

(11-09-2014 01:12 PM)Hector_St_Clare Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 01:08 AM)future Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 12:55 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Are you matching with hot brown girls?

I used Tinder for a month last year and got two matches one was a bot and the other was a fat overaged mom.

I am horrible at judging men's looks and so can't judge my own. I am probably at least avg looking. I can only try to remember the rare feedback I've got in the past which was all positive, but that might just be because people who think I am ugly will not say so openly.

I've been on Tinder since April or so, very half-heartedly though. I have a mediocre picture (with me and a female friend in it, I look kind of dopey), and I let my friend Karen write the profile for me and haven't been bothered to change it.

Having said that, while I haven't had any dates/sex from Tinder (not that I'm really looking, I'm more on Tinder to help comfort my ego), I've got a bunch of matches. About 30-40% of them are from girls 18-21, and the remainder are older (given that I'm 33, that's pretty nice).

In terms of 'looks', I probably look somewhere between the guy from Heroes and the dark skinned Dravidian guy in the picture (though of course I don't have that ridiculous mustrache).

Tinder only takes 10 minutes of an initial investment in finding good PICS (not 1 pic) of yourself and writing a witty/funny bio.

It takes maybe 5 mins to get through all the potential matches each day.

I've had plenty of sex from Tinder, half the time I'm doing things while im on the shitter at work.

Post: #62

I spoofed my location to india on Tinder once, swiped bunch of girls left, got 2 matches, both responded. They were like 4's and 5's tho
I think it can be done if you're not indian, they probably want some dick too but want to be very discreet about it so they probably won't fuck an indian dude.

Post: #63

(11-09-2014 08:33 AM)Cobra Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 01:52 PM)Lothario Wrote:  Excellent contribution Cobra, Another + 1 from me if Roosh would allow it. I will put in my 2 cents and see if it can help other brown Players.

I have been through the entire gambit from asking myself why would these white Girls not give me the time of the day ? and would rather go out with a broke Redneck. It bothered me significantly as to why as a successful man with a sucessful career I am not able to attract these white girls to a point that delved into Game/Manosphere & thanks to high heavens landed on RVF and called it home, finally started realizing it was my brown habits and ways of dressing that were keeping them to getting attracted to me.

Not an easy process but over a peroid of last 5 years it has gone from Roosh saying "This is worst reaction I have seen from White Girls" to Cobra saying recently "He's like a Prince and is treating Girls like his concubines"

I started working all the facets at the same time, Working Out, Eating clean and better, Dressing better, Woking on my accent, Using my tongue muscle, telling stories, fixing my Inner game, Head Hunting the Top Guys on the forum and gaming with them is US from East coast to West Coast ... I had the same hurdles like Cobra mentioned . I used to mentally place white girls above me and they can sense that a mile away, now after banging the best of them I don't care anymore.

Some Golden words that I picked up here and there

Giovonny: while trying to help me wrote "Find white Girls that embrace your brownness" what he meant from that was to find the alternative white girls that dig Yoga, Spices, Bhangra. These are the girls who would be wearing the Bob Marley shirt, doing Ganga etc.

Change your hunting ground brown players if you are having trouble, come down south to Nashville, TN and see what kind of response you get. with time location wouldn't matter as much when you are the Most interesting man in the Room.

Entropy4(Mark Manson): In his book Models he writes that stuck with me

" What creates Attraction for people with different race is do something that entirely not stereotypical of your culture"

A light bulb aha kinda moment for me. Now Imagine a Brown Guy in Midwest with a Big Belt Buckle , Wearing Frye Suede Square Toe Cow Boy boots with Crisp Selvedge Jeans, driving a 69 Challanger. Girls do Stop, Look and then look again. They are Intrigued/curious and want to know your story, craft a great one ......That's your foot in, you still have to do the rest of the work and in some cases just play the Fuck up avoidance game.

Krauser: quoted mark manson "Your Opinion of yourself is more Important then any one else's opinion about yourself"

That fixed me Inner Sticky of putting them White girls on a pedestal. There are going to be girls who will not be attracted to you peroid, but work on yourself and that number goes down plus the fact that there are million of girls to be hit on, It still is a numbers game.

Reiterating what has already been said in the thread, A lot of Social Conditioning has to be shed, like being humble, turning the other cheek when some one slaps you. Over the peroid of years I have gone from being the most humble guy ever to the Nice Guy that you don't want to cross. The other day I said a firm NO to my boss to a request that was unfair to me and he understood my point, 5 yrs ago I would have been happy to do it just to avoid the confrontation. same thing applies today to all my relationships even my parent. get it my fellow brown folks.

Happy Hunting out there fellow brown Rooshers.

Lothario gets it. And I've seen him in action. So...

I hung once with Lothario, I can vouch that the dude is a fearless approacher. I was pretty rusty that night as I hadn't been going out much in the weeks leading up to that so he definitely had me beat that night.

Post: #64

(11-09-2014 01:37 PM)future Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 09:00 AM)Pestilence Wrote:  Are there any indians on this forum living in India?

Any advice on approaching women in India?

Right now all I rely on is my social circle and tinder.

I used to live in India six years ago and the only game I ever did was during college festivals. Many girls visit from outside and if you're a local, it's easy to go talk to them. I was at the Ivy League equivalent of India, and at least in India these things give you high status.

But game has probably evolved a lot since then. I had no idea that Tinder has become popular in India! What do you do currently? Are you a student? I don't know anything about the night scene but I've heard that there are places in bigger cities like Bombay, Delhi, Bangalore where people go for hookups.

No I'm working right now.

I grew up in one of these cities man. The problem is it is only one social class of people that can afford to go out to different places so within a very short span of time you end up meeting a lot of people within your age group(+ or - a couple of years) so you end up dating someone within that circle.

Now imagine going out to any place in the city and wherever you go you know like 10-15 people there. You have to deal with being rejected by women you don't know in front of all these people who you know.

Hookups are possible but it takes at least a date or two after meeting the girl to get that even. And it's usually not mutual as the girls aren't meeting you just to hook up.

Tinder is slowly blowing up here (not to the extent of what I've read about NA) but you'll see like 3-4 new girls a day. But even on tinder I've got like 30 matches this year and just 1 bang out of it. Most of these girls have just heard its a fun app and aren't really looking to hook up.

Post: #65

Casual hookups are going to be difficult in India. I would say 1 bang out of 30 matches is pretty good and you shouldn't expect anything much better than that, simply because girls in India are on average more conservative. If you want more bangs, you should consider travelling.

Post: #66

I actually did a talk at Krauser's book event and got asked about my ethnicity in the Q&A, I'll post my thoughts on it and Tinder too soon.

On another note - pre-game I'd have wanted to fuck all those Rouge girls, now I'd probably only even approach the middle one and she'd be a warmup

Post: #67

(11-10-2014 12:18 AM)future Wrote:  Casual hookups are going to be difficult in India. I would say 1 bang out of 30 matches is pretty good and you shouldn't expect anything much better than that, simply because girls in India are on average more conservative. If you want more bangs, you should consider travelling.

I read somewhere once that Indian women are the opposite of many other Asian countries when it comes to sleeping around. Poor women are less slutty because they have to maintain the family honour and live pretty traditional existences, whereas wealthier women can afford to do what they like and will sleep around (on the down-low). In places like the Philippines and Thailand the opposite is true.
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A bit of info about UK Indians vs USA Indians

UK Citizens can only sponsor parents and children. Immigration from India ended in the early 1970s. Because of this, nearly every Indian born after 1970 has a British accent. I never even came across an Indian born person of my generation, until I actually went to India in the 90s. British-Indians are very mainstream and there’s at least one in most TV shows nowadays. There are FOB Indians in UK now, but they’re either illegal immigrants or students. These guys are mostly shunned by UK born Indians. Guys of my father’s age, who came to the UK in the 1960s, were hanging outing in pubs since they arrived in UK, and they would raise their sons drinking alcohol. They made friends at the pub of all races.

In the US, citizens can also sponsor brothers and sisters e.g. let’s say you have an Indian born US Citizen who’s in his 40s. He sponsored his India based brother and the brother comes to the US teenage sons. If these sons were raised in a traditional household, then they have NO game whatsoever. The same sons will also only want to hang out with other Indians, which is a further handicap. Plus in my experience the older generation of US Indians tend to only socialize with other Indians. My uncles of my dad’s generation never go to bars – they drink at each other’s house, so their entire social circle is Indian. Then their kids grow up with mostly Indian friends.

I was born and raised in UK, and now live in the US. There is a shitty Indian stereotype here, which simply doesn’t exist in UK. Indians are mainstream in the UK. In the US the average Indian male is stereotyped like this faggot:



Or this faggot, who’s on one of top rated TV shows and is too shy to talk to women :



Or these IT support faggots:



Indian men in the US have to NOT act anything like these guys! These faggots are the overwhelming stereotype of Indian men in the US, so for an Indian man to get pussy he can’t come across as “Indian”. One of my classmates at grad school though I was half white since I don’t act like an “Indian”!

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My thoughts on my ethnic background

I grew up in a small town not too far from London, and the Indian population in my town was pretty small, but concentrated in a couple of streets. Those few streets were mostly Indian. Since I grew up in mostly Indian area, I never felt that I had to fit in to mainstream British culture & I wasn’t ashamed of my Indian background. I never got any shit from the white British kids and I can count the number of racist incidents I had growing up on one hand. I think white British people are some of the least racist in the world.

When it came to girls, all the Indian girls in my home town were cousins or family friends, so all of the guys who were dating were dating white girls. (There’s no Latinos, very few blacks and almost zero east Asians where I grew up). I grew up being used to seeing Indian guy/White girl as normal.

When I was 19, I went to university in London, and because there were loads of Indian students from all over UK. It was different - I saw Indian men with Indian women. I was so shocked I told my brother about it.

It’s inner game – I never grew up thinking white women were unobtainable because of my ethnicity. Granted, there will be women who don’t like Indian men, but if they don’t, move on to the next woman! I’m Punjabi and Punjabi like to party, so there’s not much of a disconnect between Punjabi culture and western culture when it comes to socializing. There’s always alcohol involved. I’ve never felt out of places going to bars or pubs.

I also never hang out with FOB Indians – I’ve nothing in common with them. I actually have only one Indian friend from grad school that I still talk to, and he’s not a typical Indian. He grew up in Thailand, DJ’s, smokes a lot of weed and his wife is Thai. I get on fine with British Indians, but there’s very few of them in Los Angeles.

Post: #68

Interesting. This thread is motivating me to move to the UK.

By the way, I have two questions:

1. Do you guys have a desi sounding name? If yes, do you use it on Tinder and at clubs or do you use some sort of anglicized version?

2. Does anyone here have an accent? I currently have a slight accent in the sense that you can tell it's an Indian accent but I don't have problems being understood in loud clubs. Also, many girls have expressed surprise about "my english being so good" once they learn that I grew up in India. And I've been wondering whether it's worth hiring some sort of voice coach and completely get rid of the accent. What do you think?

Post: #69

(11-10-2014 02:50 PM)future Wrote:  Interesting. This thread is motivating me to move to the UK.

By the way, I have two questions:

1. Do you guys have a desi sounding name? If yes, do you use it on Tinder and at clubs or do you use some sort of anglicized version?

2. Does anyone here have an accent? I currently have a slight accent in the sense that you can tell it's an Indian accent but I don't have problems being understood in loud clubs. Also, many girls have expressed surprise about "my english being so good" once they learn that I grew up in India. And I've been wondering whether it's worth hiring some sort of voice coach and completely get rid of the accent. What do you think?

If you want to move to UK, then you need to get rid of all traces of an Indian accent. On average, both white British and British-Indian women strongly dislike the Indian accent.

1. No - my first name is English and my last name doesn’t sound like a typical Indian name. If you have a hard to pronounce name, just shorten it to a cooler name if you make it work. E.g. Jaswinder shortened to Jazz, Rakesh shorted to Rocky.

2. I have a British accent and it has helped me get laid in the US. Girls who say your English is good even though you grew up in India are dumb. Many Indians speak proper English; the accent makes it sound unclear. I can’t give you an answer to the voice coach question since I’ve never used one. I like my British accent and one way I maintain it is to regularly call my family back in UK, and to watch British TV shows. I don't know what your social circle is like, but hang out with Americans and imitate the way they speak.

Post: #70

(11-10-2014 04:29 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  1. No - my first name is English and my last name doesn’t sound like a typical Indian name. If you have a hard to pronounce name, just shorten it to a cooler name if you make it work. E.g. Jaswinder shortened to Jazz, Rakesh shorted to Rocky.

Word..

I read the above and came across this .. We had a chuckle at the office.

As a live example, don't be this guy. At least not with that smile too..
   

Post: #71

(11-10-2014 02:50 PM)future Wrote:  Interesting. This thread is motivating me to move to the UK.

By the way, I have two questions:

1. Do you guys have a desi sounding name? If yes, do you use it on Tinder and at clubs or do you use some sort of anglicized version?

2. Does anyone here have an accent? I currently have a slight accent in the sense that you can tell it's an Indian accent but I don't have problems being understood in loud clubs. Also, many girls have expressed surprise about "my english being so good" once they learn that I grew up in India. And I've been wondering whether it's worth hiring some sort of voice coach and completely get rid of the accent. What do you think?

1. Nope I've had an american name since birth, I do have another ethnic name that was used unofficially.

2. Don't have an accent, I sound like a so-cal surfer dude. I do notice I adjust my speech when in different company. Try and mimic others that you want to sound like, start hanging out with them.

Post: #72

(11-10-2014 02:50 PM)future Wrote:  Interesting. This thread is motivating me to move to the UK.

By the way, I have two questions:

1. Do you guys have a desi sounding name? If yes, do you use it on Tinder and at clubs or do you use some sort of anglicized version?

2. Does anyone here have an accent? I currently have a slight accent in the sense that you can tell it's an Indian accent but I don't have problems being understood in loud clubs. Also, many girls have expressed surprise about "my english being so good" once they learn that I grew up in India. And I've been wondering whether it's worth hiring some sort of voice coach and completely get rid of the accent. What do you think?

I have an Indian name (Sanskrit, though I'm ethnically Tamil), but it's pretty close to an English name. When I introduce myself I give my full name, but people often call me by an Anglicized version.

I was raised in America, so I have an American accent (at this point I've lived in the upper Midwest for six years, so my accent is more Midwestern than northeastern). No one would ever take me for a foreigner.

Post: #73

(11-10-2014 06:00 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 04:29 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  1. No - my first name is English and my last name doesn’t sound like a typical Indian name. If you have a hard to pronounce name, just shorten it to a cooler name if you make it work. E.g. Jaswinder shortened to Jazz, Rakesh shorted to Rocky.

Word..

I read the above and came across this .. We had a chuckle at the office.

As a live example, don't be this guy. At least not with that smile too..

The most brutal Indian name is Shitikanth. I know a guy with that name. He's not too happy about it.

Post: #74

This thread seems basically to boil down to two basic pieces of advice:

1) Improve your outer and inner game - workout, dress well, learn game, don't be creepy, reject limiting beliefs about race
2) Become as Americanized/Westernized as possible (including changing your name! What?) This one is a bit contradictory because on the one hand we're supposed to be proud of our ethnicity but at the same time shed some aspects of it....

Any advice for Indians living in East Asia? I'd say the Indian/White dude perception gap (in terms of how local girls react to guys) is much more severe here than in the West (maybe Japan is an exception?), which at least has to pretend to care about tolerance/diversity/multiculturalism etc....

In Asia, even the most Americanized Indian dude still has to "prove," he's American in most East Asian countries. And there's still some pretty backwards beliefs about skin color here.

I'm not being a troll, just trying to get some solid advice. Points #1 and #2 above have been hammered since the beginning of the forum but in order to hit the higher levels of game I think some better brown dude specific advice is needed, esp when living outside the West.

Post: #75

I know there are a lot of Indian-Chinese mixes in Singapore and Malaysia, which have a lot of both and they don't intermarry often with the Muslim ethnic Malay's. One of the hottest girls I've ever met is an international student from Penang, Malaysia. Half Punjabi Indian from her dad half Malay/Chinese from her mum. All babe. All babe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chindian

Quote:In Malaysia and Singapore, the majority of interracial marriages occur between Chinese and Indians. The offspring of such marriages are informally known as "Chindian". The Malaysian government, however, considers them to be an unclassified ethnicity, using the father's ethnicity as the informal term. The government of Singapore classifies them as their father's ethnicity. As the majority of these intermarriages usually involve an Indian male and Chinese female, the majority of Chindian offspring in Malaysia and Singapore are usually classified as "Indian" by the Malaysian government.

According to government statistics, 2.4% of Singapore's population are multiracial, mostly Chindians. The highest number of interethnic marriages was in 2007, when 16.4% of the 20,000 marriages in Singapore were interethnic, again mostly between Chinese and Indians.