(10-26-2014 11:06 AM)RexImperator Wrote: She gets TONS of messages, even from guys in their 20's, and as far as 3 states away, telling her how "gorgeous" she is, etc. She bragged about getting banged by a 25 year old "hot" guy recently, who she saw a few times, although lamented that he "got away".
If a woman is not fat there is almost no end to it. There are plenty of thirsty/horny guys who don't want and don't care about having kids.
(03-15-2014 01:11 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote: Samseau's points here are all painfully true observations. To me at least, they never become stale topics for discussion, because they are the one problem that none of us can solve. In fact, I think what he talks about here, and what Roosh talked about in his recent article cited, is the defining issue of our time.That, too is what has led me here at a relatively advanced age compared to most of you. I have lived through this evil transformation, seen it in its infancy, when I didn't truly understand what was happening. It has devastated my life, countless others and prematurely ended the lives of some very important to me. I miss them. They were great guys. It goes deeper, much deeper than women turning against us. Almost everything has turned against us. So I find some measure of solace here, and a great deal of education. Even sometimes from those I have disagreed sharply with.
I wrote a similarly themed article at ROK called The Anguish Of The Manosphere. I tried to express my own personal despair at these issues, just like Sam, Roosh, and many others have done in one way or another.
How to deal with this? Well, the reality is that you never really get over it. This phenomenon is spreading all over the world. The old order, the old morality, the old ethic, is collapsing quickly and being replaced by....something else. We have to conclude that we are trapped in a period of history where the old ways are giving rise to some fundamentally new conception of men, women, gender, family, and related issues.
This is the dawn of the Age of Barbarism.
We are the unwanted, unloved children of this transition. We are the ships at sea rocked by the swirling tempest. But as society has abandoned us, we return its hatred twofold. We give it back the same measure of bitterness as it fed us. We are the hate that hate created.
My opinion at this point in my life for dealing with this societal crisis is this:
Instead of looking to women and creating a family for our comfort and support, we need to look increasingly to (a) ourselves, and (b) our masculine tribes.
Support and validation will not come from women. Society has cruelly lied to us by feeding us the fantasy that romantic love redeems all. It is a chimera, as fleeting and transitory as the morning mist, burned off by the rising sun.
It may come as some comfort that some previous ages in history have been similar. For most of history, in fact, women have been little more to men than vehicles for procreation. They are not there to emotionally support us. Men will increasingly devolve into tribes based on leadership principles, firm discipline, and a contempt for the old order, which has betrayed us so cruelly. We will scale the walls of the fortress of the old order, eventually, and put the last vestiges of the whole rotten gang to rout.
The thoughtful and rational man will try to extract what enjoyment he can from society, while recognizing what is going on. He will:
1. Read voraciously to build up his intellectual arsenal.
2. Travel often to acquaint himself with the geography of the earth and the people in it.
3. Turn away from the lies, falsehoods, and distractions of American consumerist culture, which only seeks to enslave him.
4. Master game, if he can control his seething contempt for women, to satisfy his physical needs.
5. Try, as much as possible, to become self-sufficient in as many areas as possible.
6. Understand the true nature of women.
7. Do not abandon himself to despair.
8. Adopt a sustaining philosophy of life, and a comprehensive knowledge of history, which will provide some source of solace and comfort.
9. Try to begin to formulate some nascent "code of conduct" to replace the fallen ethics of the past. I think we are well on our way to making some steady steps in this direction already.
As the classical world collapsed into violence and chaos in the 3rd and 4th centuries AD, communities turned inward. Feudalism, centered around a lord and manor, arose out of the need for local support in a chaotic environment. We may see something similar as the centralized authority of the state continues to be eroded by falling birthrates, social decay, and governmental venality.
If we read the "Rule of St. Benedict" today, (a code of conduct governing the first monastic order in Europe) we can admire its strictness, harshness, and deep knowledge of the masculine soul. It was an attempt to impose discipline and order in an age of violence and chaos.
But the truth is that nobody really knows where all this will lead. But we are at least identifying the problem, and asking the big questions.
That's why I draw strength from this tribe.
(03-16-2014 01:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:(03-16-2014 01:38 AM)Captain Gh Wrote: Now I'm just laughing at these broads since I can see their painful futures hehe!!
Not only do they not have a painful future ahead of them, but even if you tried to explain to a modern woman why college is a waste of her time, she won't believe you. And if you explain to an older woman that she wasted her youth, there's only a small chance she'll be honest enough to admit her mistakes.
Even women who fuck up royally usually invent 100 lies and excuses to avoid any personal responsibility, and as long as they were obedient little worker slaves they will have enough money for themselves until they die.
No punishment, no consequences, total denial.
Fact is... most women don't give a shit about the future. As long as they have money, they don't care at all.
(10-27-2014 12:39 AM)blacknwhitespade Wrote: Women may face no consequences in terms of laws or social stigmas, however, many are ultimately suffering big time in the dating market. If you can't find any examples around you, do a simple google search, the internet is loaded with stories. Even mainstream publications are commenting on the dilemma modern women face in dating/marriage: Why Women Can't Find a Good Man. There are statistically not enough single, employed/educated men to go around for upper-middle class women. Dalrock illustrated this beautifully here: More Grim News for Carousellers. This is the course many women are running in America these days and it's becoming almost comical.
(10-27-2014 12:39 AM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:(03-16-2014 01:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:(03-16-2014 01:38 AM)Captain Gh Wrote: Now I'm just laughing at these broads since I can see their painful futures hehe!!
Not only do they not have a painful future ahead of them, but even if you tried to explain to a modern woman why college is a waste of her time, she won't believe you. And if you explain to an older woman that she wasted her youth, there's only a small chance she'll be honest enough to admit her mistakes.
Even women who fuck up royally usually invent 100 lies and excuses to avoid any personal responsibility, and as long as they were obedient little worker slaves they will have enough money for themselves until they die.
No punishment, no consequences, total denial.
Fact is... most women don't give a shit about the future. As long as they have money, they don't care at all.
Women may face no consequences in terms of laws or social stigmas, however, many are ultimately suffering big time in the dating market. If you can't find any examples around you, do a simple google search, the internet is loaded with stories. Even mainstream publications are commenting on the dilemma modern women face in dating/marriage: Why Women Can't Find a Good Man. There are statistically not enough single, employed/educated men to go around for upper-middle class women. Dalrock illustrated this beautifully here: More Grim News for Carousellers. This is the course many women are running in America these days and it's becoming almost comical.
(10-27-2014 03:17 AM)Samseau Wrote:(10-27-2014 12:39 AM)blacknwhitespade Wrote:(03-16-2014 01:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:(03-16-2014 01:38 AM)Captain Gh Wrote: Now I'm just laughing at these broads since I can see their painful futures hehe!!
Not only do they not have a painful future ahead of them, but even if you tried to explain to a modern woman why college is a waste of her time, she won't believe you. And if you explain to an older woman that she wasted her youth, there's only a small chance she'll be honest enough to admit her mistakes.
Even women who fuck up royally usually invent 100 lies and excuses to avoid any personal responsibility, and as long as they were obedient little worker slaves they will have enough money for themselves until they die.
No punishment, no consequences, total denial.
Fact is... most women don't give a shit about the future. As long as they have money, they don't care at all.
Women may face no consequences in terms of laws or social stigmas, however, many are ultimately suffering big time in the dating market. If you can't find any examples around you, do a simple google search, the internet is loaded with stories. Even mainstream publications are commenting on the dilemma modern women face in dating/marriage: Why Women Can't Find a Good Man. There are statistically not enough single, employed/educated men to go around for upper-middle class women. Dalrock illustrated this beautifully here: More Grim News for Carousellers. This is the course many women are running in America these days and it's becoming almost comical.
As CRR says, its because American women are too picky given their low value, not that they have a lack of options. It's not, "There are no good men," but instead, "No man is good enough."
(10-27-2014 12:58 AM)CRR Wrote: My issue is that with all the criticism of unmarried and unmarriageable men, from articles on Slate to Atlantic to NYT, there is never discussion of the obvious, which is that there are a lot of unmarriageable women.

(10-27-2014 08:27 AM)StrikeBack Wrote: You know, once upon a time, I really wanted some bad consequences to happen to women, for all the BS they put us through.
But as the true opposite of love is indifference, not hate, over time, that little bit of hatred from me has completely died off, and now I really don't care whether they suffer any consequence or not.
Having said that, I always find these threads fascinating because it brings out some of the best writings of the manosphere. Exhibit A: Quintus' post, quoted above.
(10-27-2014 12:58 AM)CRR Wrote: My issue is that with all the criticism of unmarried and unmarriageable men, from articles on Slate to Atlantic to NYT, there is never discussion of the obvious, which is that there are a lot of unmarriageable women.
Whenever I talk to my mother for more than 5 mins these days, she'd sneak in something about her expecting me to get married soon. I'd respond with a challenge: dear mother, you find me any girl you see, even just walking down the streets, that you think would make a good wife for me and daughter-in-law for you, and I promise you I'd do everything in my power to marry her.
I've got no answer to that challenge for a few years now. And my mother now complains more about how terrible wives young women these days would make, than this whole forum combined.
(10-27-2014 09:19 AM)blacknwhitespade Wrote: The reason this question is never brought up is because there are too many pussywhipped white knights who still actually believe that there actually are a lot more quality women than there are quality men out there. The obesity epidemic, the rise of the babymomma culture, insufferable feminist attitudes,... American women have been decimated. If an angel died and I got a nickle for every time I met an attractive-looking, young, single mother, I think I could provide an angel graveyard replete with marble tombstones.

(10-27-2014 02:29 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote: ^ HCE, it's an epidemic, dude. I was showing a buddy of mine some pictures from the "What do you consider a 10" thread. He goes, "yea, but these girls are probably dumb as hell, let's see what their IQ's are". This is an EE guy, too. Totally brainwashed by this culture.
Quote:- Women are told to not worry about kids until late 20's early 30's, despite average women having only 10% of eggs at age 30.
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(10-27-2014 03:27 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: Status-driven men who want to be part of a power couple, perhaps?
(10-27-2014 02:29 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote: I was showing a buddy of mine some pictures from the "What do you consider a 10" thread. He goes, "yea, but these girls are probably dumb as hell, let's see what their IQ's are". This is an EE guy, too. Totally brainwashed by this culture.
(10-27-2014 10:22 PM)kazz Wrote: Women, in general do not 'think' they are not thinkers. They will jump on any band wagon/buzzword that crops up. OH "Im going to support fair and ethical trade from now on, I will only buy tea and coffee with the fair trade tick. When they make these life changing decisions also not surprisingly, simultainiously now, they could never date a man who does not support fair trade.
(10-27-2014 10:36 PM)The Father Wrote:In fairness that might not be the best example, a lot of guys buy into this shit too.(10-27-2014 10:22 PM)kazz Wrote: Women, in general do not 'think' they are not thinkers. They will jump on any band wagon/buzzword that crops up. OH "Im going to support fair and ethical trade from now on, I will only buy tea and coffee with the fair trade tick. When they make these life changing decisions also not surprisingly, simultainiously now, they could never date a man who does not support fair trade.
LOL. So true. In the U.S., at least in big cities like New York, every woman is "allergic to gluten...I'm gluten free". The actual % of women with a gluten allergy? 1-2%. They are complete lemmings.
(10-28-2014 12:03 AM)OnlyMarryInTajikistan Wrote: After going through all of this, all I can say is: Who cares?
As a man, all you should think about is how you should operate in order to get the women that will actually add to your life.
I find it funny when I hear men complain about women who are cunts. If they are cunts, why do you care? What value can a cunt possibly add to your life? It is not a matter of how to game her, if she is a cunt, she should be disqualified immediately. Zoom out and leave your ego aside.
I don't give a shit about what happens to these women. Unless she is a girl that is a valuable part of my life, I don't care. Their future happiness is an irrelevant issue to me.