Post: #51

Well, they got that hpv vaccine out, when's the herp shot coming? Wouldn't do much good for those who have it now, but we could wipe it out, like smallpox.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out if I have it. Carved out some notches with a rusty blade before.

Post: #52

(01-23-2014 01:11 AM)soup Wrote:  New super deadly STD supposedly worse than AIDS:

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-new...er-of-days

The fucking T-virus!

Post: #53

Best way to deal with STD's is to always go to the same doctor. I already had chlamydia, gonorrhea and scabies all I do is just call up the place and tell them;

"Hey I lost my prescription for "______."

I think by the time I am 25, I will have pretty much most of the STD's covered.

The life of the rawdog.

Post: #54

(01-23-2014 12:39 AM)Fender_Bender Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 10:30 PM)jtbabycarrots Wrote:  I feel you brother. I got HPV from one of two girls. I think they both had it. We talked about it in an around about way. Basically both girls were like, "get over it".

It actually went away within a few weeks, but it caused a secondary bacterial infection - similar to a UTI, like what girls get.

I kept going to doctors and they kept telling me there was nothing wrong - that it was all in my head.

Ultimately I dealt with it by going to Brazil where I could get over the counter antibiotics. I got the strongest stuff I could and within three days I was a new man.

However the mental scar is still there. To this day (years later) I have to go down on a girl before I can nail her. It's like I have to get comfortable with a new pussy.

Would a condom have prevented all of this - probably.

It also caused me to miss out on having a relationship with one amazing girl and cut short a relationship with another model hot one because I either had symptoms and didn't want to f*ck or just wasn't the same, confident guy in bed.

Now I wrap up the first time with a new girl - even though I don't want to.

And, unfortunately, if she doesn't tell me to wrap up I next her. I figure if she doesn't tell me to wrap up she isn't telling anyone else to wrap up so that pussy must be dirty.

I couldn't imagine how difficult something like this would be when you've only had 8 girls though.

I guess you can look at the silver lining at least; quality is better than quantity.

I appreciate your post. I got diagnosed soon after I started getting into game about 2 years ago. Once I started seeing some success and building momentum with confidence I got smacked with a shit sandwich of bad luck. I've come a long way since then and have a much better mindset now but it fucked me up for a while. The stigma sucks, doctors are worthless "it's just a skin condition blah blah we don't even test for it" and it is very much a psychological disease that will make you question your personal ethics and philosophy. At the risk of sounding dramatic, it is a Rubicon of personal responsibility and changes your approach to sex forever. It's not a big deal and a big deal at the same time.

Funny thing is that I probably got it while wearing a condom because I don't get outbreaks anywhere within condom coverage area. I will never preach to people about raw dogging because in my case it didn't matter. Can't believe there isn't an alternative to condoms that is more effective for the entire area.

Someone mentioned molluscum, I had that shit too years ago. Dealt with it for about a year. On my junk, I would cut the cheesy core shit out with a needle and use ACV to sanitize and heal the affected area. It also brings the bumps to the surface if you apply a soaked paper towel for a few hours. Got on that ACV tip early!

The microorganisms of this world need to give my dick a fucking break haha. I hardly ever get sick otherwise, my immune system is pretty good.

I wonder if the person who gave it to me even knew they had it...I still don't know for sure who did and it doesn't matter that much to me now

"Can't believe there isn't an alternative to condoms that is more effective for the entire area."

If you're really paranoid, Magnum condoms while still wearing your underwear (just poking through the whole). Surprisingly comfortable with full coverage.

Well written post, liked your Rubicon reference. HSV vaccine in trials now, so hopefully your travails will be a thing of the past.

Post: #55

Liquid nitrogen

Post: #56

Tried searching, but if one if the pharmas create a gel you put outside of the condom coverage area maybe this could solve one concerns. Call me anal, but I usually put hand sanitizer or alcohol on my sack, shaft and the entire area after I have sex, then I shower. It burns like a bitch, but I don't care.

My tip, leave hand sanitizer in your car just in case

Post: #57

I wonder if the micro-cuts/tears and exfoliation that shaving causes increases the ease of access for STD's. If I'm getting new pussy I'll shave my balls that day...so far I'm lucky in the STD realm.

Post: #58

Sooo... I am pretty sure I have just given my girlfriend genital warts.

I had these little fuckers pop up about 6 months ago, and i just put some Apple Cider Vinegar on some cotton wool and used some tape to hold it in place over night. They were gone after about 3 nights of doing this. The chemical burn on my dick lasted another week.
Anyway, now she has symptoms.

How the fuck am I going to talk my way out of this one?
Also, what the fuck do I do to stop future spreading of this?

Post: #59

(02-12-2014 01:49 AM)spalex Wrote:  Sooo... I am pretty sure I have just given my girlfriend genital warts.

I had these little fuckers pop up about 6 months ago, and i just put some Apple Cider Vinegar on some cotton wool and used some tape to hold it in place over night. They were gone after about 3 nights of doing this. The chemical burn on my dick lasted another week.
Anyway, now she has symptoms.

How the fuck am I going to talk my way out of this one?
Also, what the fuck do I do to stop future spreading of this?

That's fucked up.

Post: #60

(02-12-2014 01:49 AM)spalex Wrote:  Sooo... I am pretty sure I have just given my girlfriend genital warts.

I had these little fuckers pop up about 6 months ago, and i just put some Apple Cider Vinegar on some cotton wool and used some tape to hold it in place over night. They were gone after about 3 nights of doing this. The chemical burn on my dick lasted another week.
Anyway, now she has symptoms.

How the fuck am I going to talk my way out of this one?
Also, what the fuck do I do to stop future spreading of this?

This happens to me often. Follow these simple steps;

1-Tell her your going to get checked out because you have discomfort.

2-Get checked out(If you haven't)

3-Buy cream and give it to her and tell her

"You better put this baby." Then just continue with your player lifestyle.

Post: #61

Don't know if this has already been mentioned, but if you go on a rawdog romp for a few weeks, it isn't a bad idea to take the medication for the big three STDs at the end...
Gonorrhoea - Cefixime 400mg tablet (once)
Trich - Metronidazole 500mg twice a day for 7 days
Chlamydia - Doxycycline 100mg twice daily for 7 days

Doxycycline is also used for anti-malaria purposes and acne treatment, so it's basically safe for medium-term use. In other words, you can use it as a preventative measure for a couple of months. I wouldn't binge drink while taking it though...

The main thing is to get tested or treated often, because if you get one STD you're much more likely to get another.

If you're worried about HIV, you can take anti-retrovirals during the times you're planning to add a lot of new notches... eg. Truvada.

There's also some stuff which prevents Herpes, but as far as I know is only available in Russia.. I can find out what it is if anyone is interested.

Post: #62

I know it can't be healthy to take std antibiotics over snd over when you dont even have a dirty dick. I would think once every few months is fine even if you're raw dogging new girls every week. Your dick will let you know if you have something by pissing blood, razor blades, dripping or having weird bumps.

Post: #63

(02-12-2014 09:50 AM)DaveR Wrote:  Don't know if this has already been mentioned, but if you go on a rawdog romp for a few weeks, it isn't a bad idea to take the medication for the big three STDs at the end...
Gonorrhoea - Cefixime 400mg tablet (once)
Trich - Metronidazole 500mg twice a day for 7 days
Chlamydia - Doxycycline 100mg twice daily for 7 days

Doxycycline is also used for anti-malaria purposes and acne treatment, so it's basically safe for medium-term use. In other words, you can use it as a preventative measure for a couple of months. I wouldn't binge drink while taking it though...

The main thing is to get tested or treated often, because if you get one STD you're much more likely to get another.

If you're worried about HIV, you can take anti-retrovirals during the times you're planning to add a lot of new notches... eg. Truvada.

There's also some stuff which prevents Herpes, but as far as I know is only available in Russia.. I can find out what it is if anyone is interested.

Don't do this. It's extremely inadvisable for multiple reasons to take antibiotics preventatively without a positive STD test or any signs or symptoms of infection (with the possible exception of Truvada for HIV pre-exposure prophylaxis, but that only applies to men who have sex with men). If you're at risk for STDs or have symptoms, just go get tested.

Post: #64

(02-12-2014 01:49 AM)spalex Wrote:  Sooo... I am pretty sure I have just given my girlfriend genital warts.

I had these little fuckers pop up about 6 months ago, and i just put some Apple Cider Vinegar on some cotton wool and used some tape to hold it in place over night. They were gone after about 3 nights of doing this. The chemical burn on my dick lasted another week.
Anyway, now she has symptoms.

How the fuck am I going to talk my way out of this one?
Also, what the fuck do I do to stop future spreading of this?

Apparently ACV doesn't fix everything.

Post: #65

(02-12-2014 09:20 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 01:49 AM)spalex Wrote:  Sooo... I am pretty sure I have just given my girlfriend genital warts.

I had these little fuckers pop up about 6 months ago, and i just put some Apple Cider Vinegar on some cotton wool and used some tape to hold it in place over night. They were gone after about 3 nights of doing this. The chemical burn on my dick lasted another week.
Anyway, now she has symptoms.

How the fuck am I going to talk my way out of this one?
Also, what the fuck do I do to stop future spreading of this?

Apparently ACV doesn't fix everything.

The warts are a symptom of HPV infection, but usually the infections are asymptomatic . At least 70% of the population has antibodies to various HPV strains, the chances are pretty high get because you can infect the area that is not protected by a condom. look it up on wikipedia

Post: #66

(02-12-2014 08:07 PM)Screwston Wrote:  I know it can't be healthy to take std antibiotics over snd over when you dont even have a dirty dick. I would think once every few months is fine even if you're raw dogging new girls every week. Your dick will let you know if you have something by pissing blood, razor blades, dripping or having weird bumps.

I wouldn't do it often or long-term, but I would if I had a reason like banging a girl I later decided was dirty or after an 'intense' holiday.

(02-12-2014 08:33 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  Don't do this. It's extremely inadvisable for multiple reasons to take antibiotics preventatively

Such as?

The ones I listed are on the CDC's list for prophylaxis... I've been given a script for all three when I told a doc that I banged a dirty girl by mistake. Doxycycline is regularly prescribed for months at a time as Malaria protection.

If you're worried about resistance, it's a problem for society and the medical community to deal with, not you individually... there's nothing you can do to avoid some other guy from not taking the full course and potentially creating a resistant strain. Taking a round of antibiotics occasionally is not the issue.

In addition, there are issues with testing for Trich in men, and oral Chlamydia is difficult to test for in general.

Post: #67

Yeah I am pretty sure that I got it whilst wearing a condom. I never rawdog pub sluts, only girlfriends.
... Which are usually pub sluts

(02-12-2014 02:32 AM)PocketAA Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 01:49 AM)spalex Wrote:  Sooo... I am pretty sure I have just given my girlfriend genital warts.

I had these little fuckers pop up about 6 months ago, and i just put some Apple Cider Vinegar on some cotton wool and used some tape to hold it in place over night. They were gone after about 3 nights of doing this. The chemical burn on my dick lasted another week.
Anyway, now she has symptoms.

How the fuck am I going to talk my way out of this one?
Also, what the fuck do I do to stop future spreading of this?

This happens to me often. Follow these simple steps;

1-Tell her your going to get checked out because you have discomfort.

2-Get checked out(If you haven't)

3-Buy cream and give it to her and tell her

"You better put this baby." Then just continue with your player lifestyle.

Yeah this is pretty much my only option.
It reminds me of the time I had to date rape a girlfriend with the chlamydia anti-biotic

Post: #68

(02-13-2014 01:51 AM)spalex Wrote:  Yeah this is pretty much my only option.
It reminds me of the time I had to date rape a girlfriend with the chlamydia anti-biotic

Look at it on the + side... those warts will cure any lingering oneitis you may have.

Post: #69

(02-13-2014 01:27 AM)void Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 09:20 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 01:49 AM)spalex Wrote:  Sooo... I am pretty sure I have just given my girlfriend genital warts.

I had these little fuckers pop up about 6 months ago, and i just put some Apple Cider Vinegar on some cotton wool and used some tape to hold it in place over night. They were gone after about 3 nights of doing this. The chemical burn on my dick lasted another week.
Anyway, now she has symptoms.

How the fuck am I going to talk my way out of this one?
Also, what the fuck do I do to stop future spreading of this?

Apparently ACV doesn't fix everything.

The warts are a symptom of HPV infection, but usually the infections are asymptomatic . At least 70% of the population has antibodies to various HPV strains, the chances are pretty high get because you can infect the area that is not protected by a condom. look it up on wikipedia

joke

your head

Post: #70

I religiously wear condoms, as that is one tradeoff I haven't decided to sit on the danger side of yet. (Fingers crossed and knock on wood) I haven't had anything yet, or at least as far as I know. I've never been tested, although I've never shown symptoms. I'm going to keep using condoms. I still enjoy fucking quite well.

Post: #71

(02-13-2014 01:51 AM)DaveR Wrote:  Such as?

For starters, yes you can breed resistant bacteria within your own body through overexposure. This can happen during the course of treatment for an actual infection or you can do it by selecting for resistance genes in bacteria that are already there (some of them are on DNA plasmids that can be transferred between bacteria). If you take antibiotics without a proven or strongly suspected infection (i.e. you are symptomatic, have a positive test, or have sex with someone with a known infection), you're making it more likely that you'll have a resistant strain the next time you really do get an STD. To give one example, azithromycin can be bad to select resistance for if you get sinus infections--you really don't want Z-packs to not work for those.

Taking antibiotics also wipes out a good amount of your good gut bacteria. Flagyl (metronidazole) in particular kills a lot of anaerobic bacteria that live in your GI tract (cefixime and doxycycline are also broad-spectrum and aren't great for it either). You can then get overgrowth of bacteria that aren't usually present in large numbers, which can lead to GI upset or even some nasty infectious diarrhea, which is on the rise. There is not good evidence that taking probiotics can prevent this.

Moreover, all of those antibiotics do have side effects. Flagyl and cephalosporins like cefixime cause nausea and diarrhea (and you get really sick if you drink on flagyl). Cephalosporins can also cause a rash, hives or other allergic reaction. Doxycycline makes you very sensitive to sunlight (people on doxy for malaria prophylaxis are recommended to wear sunscreen when they go outside).

Quote:The ones I listed are on the CDC's list for prophylaxis... I've been given a script for all three when I told a doc that I banged a dirty girl by mistake. Doxycycline is regularly prescribed for months at a time as Malaria protection.

Prophylaxis means treating presumptively (with or without symptoms) when you don't have a positive test yet. It's done when you've had sex with someone who has a known STD or when you have STD symptoms, not "Doc I rawdogged 3 really slutty-seeming chicks can I get some pills?". Even then you should still get a test (which can identify other STDs you may have acquired)--it just means you don't delay treatment until you know the results.

You can take doxycycline as malaria prophylaxis because the potential risks of therapy are way better than getting malaria. And the regimens used for malaria prevention aren't the same ones used for treatment so there is less risk of resistance developing as a result of prophylaxis.

Quote:If you're worried about resistance, it's a problem for society and the medical community to deal with, not you individually... there's nothing you can do to avoid some other guy from not taking the full course and potentially creating a resistant strain. Taking a round of antibiotics occasionally is not the issue.

Like I said above this is not true. And moreover, widespread resistance will soon be all of our problem if enough people think like this (to an extent it already is).

Quote:In addition, there are issues with testing for Trich in men, and oral Chlamydia is difficult to test for in general.

Apparently you can test for Chlamydia in places other than your dick:

CDC guideline on Chlamydial infections Wrote:Rectal and oropharyngeal C. trachomatis infection in persons engaging in receptive anal or oral intercourse can be diagnosed by testing at the anatomic site of exposure. Most tests, including NAAT and nucleic acid hybridization tests, are not FDA-cleared for use with rectal or oropharyngeal swab specimens, and chlamydia culture is not widely available for this purpose. However, NAATs have demonstrated improved sensitivity and specificity compared with culture for the detection of C. trachomatis at rectal sites (278–280) and at oropharyngeal sites among men (278–281). Some laboratories have met CLIA requirements and have validated NAAT testing on rectal swab specimens for C. trachomatis.

(Source)

Testing for trichomoniasis in men is by culture from urine or urethral swab, or NAAT (I've never seen the semen test lol):

Quote:In men, wet preparation is not a sensitive test, and no approved point-of-care tests are available. Culture testing of urethral swab, urine, or semen is one diagnostic option; however, NAATs (i.e., PCR or transcription-mediated amplification [TMA]) have superior sensitivity for T. vaginalis diagnosis in men (356,359).

This is the full CDC treatment guideline for STDs: http://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment/2010/ST...RR5912.pdf

tl;dr: yes you can treat known or strongly suspected STDs before knowing the results of testing. But you should get tested anyway and you should not take antibiotics "just in case" every X number of notches or rawdogs.

Post: #72

(02-14-2014 02:20 AM)gringochileno Wrote:  tl;dr: yes you can treat known or strongly suspected STDs before knowing the results of testing. But you should get tested anyway and you should not take antibiotics "just in case" every X number of notches or rawdogs.

Which is essentially what I wrote in my original post. You could have saved yourself from this crusade against prophylaxis by simply reading that post more carefully. Much of what you wrote has been debunked previously by doctors on this forum (for example, Thomas the Rhymer gave actual data rather than rhetoric in another thread).

Also, you should read these posts in the context of where they are written. Being an RVF rawdogger on holiday in SE-Asia is already an indication of risk.

More specifically:

- You are dreaming if you think a single round of antibiotics is a concern for creating resistance. There are many cases where they are prescribed based only on suspicion. For example, If someone shows signs of gonorrhoea (even without testing), doxycycline will also be prescribed for Chlamydia.

- The articles you quoted in relation to testing for Trichomoniasis and Chlamydia confirm what I wrote earlier.

- Prophylaxis is indicated whenever there is a perceived risk. Where I am, the 3-drug regime is indicated for condom-broke-in-hooker incidents and other risky events. Pharmacists are authorised to recommend prophylaxis for high-risk events. Truvada is provided to some hookers as pre-exposure prophylaxis against HIV.

Post: #73

I consider myself happy that I didn't caught any STDs till now. After becoming a father that is pretty much the biggest fear I have.

Post: #74

I was tested for STDs back in August and came back completely clean. Hooked up with a woman in September who seemed clean enough. Her ex-husband just messaged her with bad news. A woman he hooked up with shortly after they divorced just found out on Tuesday/Wednesday that she got Chlamydia. Thankfully nothing serious, but he hooked up with her two years ago and the woman I was with hooked up with her ex-husband several times prior to us doing our thing.

I think the timeframes are suficient that if he had chlamydia he certainly would've known, or she would've known some time over the last 1-2 years. He got tested on Wednesday and the report will be back some time early next week. If he's positive I'll have to go get tested, but I'm still pretty sure I don't have it--the list of symptoms is pretty lengthy for chlamydia and I can't see myself ignoring them if they popped up!

Post: #75

(02-14-2014 05:45 AM)DaveR Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 02:20 AM)gringochileno Wrote:  tl;dr: yes you can treat known or strongly suspected STDs before knowing the results of testing. But you should get tested anyway and you should not take antibiotics "just in case" every X number of notches or rawdogs.

Which is essentially what I wrote in my original post. You could have saved yourself from this crusade against prophylaxis by simply reading that post more carefully. Much of what you wrote has been debunked previously by doctors on this forum (for example, Thomas the Rhymer gave actual data rather than rhetoric in another thread).

Your original post did not sound to me like that's what you were saying. Saying something like "if you go on a rawdog romp for a few weeks, it isn't a bad idea to take the medication for the big three STDs at the end" seems to indicate that you'd advocate taking antibiotics without a positive test result just because you rawdogged several girls, even if you don't have any symptoms yourself and haven't banged anyone with a known infection. If that's not what you meant then great, we agree.

Quote:You are dreaming if you think a single round of antibiotics is a concern for creating resistance.

Of course not, and I never said it was. The risk is cumulative--the more often you take inappropriate antibiotics, the higher the risk of breeding a resistant bug.

Quote:There are many cases where they are prescribed based only on suspicion. For example, If someone shows signs of gonorrhoea (even without testing), doxycycline will also be prescribed for Chlamydia.

Yes, if you treat someone for gonorrhea it's usually indicated to treat for chlamydia as well because the diseases are very co-morbid (and vice-versa). That's only if treatment is indicated in the first place--meaning one or more of: a) clinical signs and symptoms of infection, b) sex with someone with a known infection, or c) a positive STD test.

Quote:The articles you quoted in relation to testing for Trichomoniasis and Chlamydia confirm what I wrote earlier.

The fact that point-of-care testing (meaning a test where the result comes back rapidly enough to know the result during the same clinic visit) isn't available shouldn't impact any decision to treat or not treat. It's not a big deal to wait a couple days for a culture to grow if you're asymptomatic and haven't been banging people with known STDs.

Quote:Prophylaxis is indicated whenever there is a perceived risk. Where I am, the 3-drug regime is indicated for condom-broke-in-hooker incidents and other risky events. Pharmacists are authorised to recommend prophylaxis for high-risk events. Truvada is provided to some hookers as pre-exposure prophylaxis against HIV.

Is this in SEA? As far as I know the CDC or IDSA guidelines don't recommend anything that contradicts what I wrote above but admittedly I'm not very familiar with differences in practice guidelines outside the US. HIV PrEP for hookers isn't something I know a whole lot about either but that's a completely different patient population than what we're talking about here.