Post: #1151

(12-27-2013 03:02 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(12-26-2013 10:41 PM)Xiztian Wrote:  Kind of getting bored with the whole thing so I decided to see what y'all have to say?

Will definitely appreciate the help n support.

PS I posted this in the wrong thread (FUCK!). Can someone move it or should I just repost it there (on the text support thread)?

Xiztian:

Since you are new to RVF, probably it is good to let guys get to know you a little bit before joking too much. Just a thought.

Guys here seem to be more than willing to help new guys, especially if the new guy also provides information and context and even information that guys here have NOT seen in other places.

Most of us really are NOT that interested in sexual exploitations of the new guys, even if those exploitations may be true, but more interested in about how you got there and the learning process - especially on the approach thread would specialize in figuring out how to better approach girls or what may have gone wrong in an approach.

Certainly, there are guys participating in this thread that have quite a bit of experience with approaching (more than me).. and i read to get those kinds of tips or to possibly apply some of the creative tactics when I am in a similar situation.

After you are on RVF for a while, then guys may become more interested in the exploitation results that you obtained after an approach or at least if you describe the exploitation in a context of how the approach played out, then we will see how you got from point A to point B.

Sometimes postings are NOT exactly on the correct thread, and try your best to find a thread that best fits the subject that you are seeking feedback.

Finally, if guys on RVF think that you are just "playing us," then that would be a pretty rapid (express route) way to get banned. Hopefully my response helps.

I agree. I'm pretty serious about this whole game thing. That's why I went ahead and updated my profile and info a little bit.

As for how I got here (Brazil), I used travel hacking to get me from the US to Brazil for < $10bux!! (more on that if requested).

As for the approach of the girl, I was just doing regular approaches on Ipanema and if you've been to Ipanema beach, you know there's a point on the end where people can go to chill out, think, and/or watch the sunset.

The chick was by herself gazing at the natural beauties to see. I simply walked up and said, "It's nice isn't it." A small conversation here and there and the next thing I knew, I just invited myself to sit down with her (no false time constraints thrown out/not necessary).

You have to get a feel for the atmosphere, blended in, and go with the flow... make it as natural as possible.

Indirect and playful was what has always suited me best.

Anyways, I'm here in Brazil and I know their are cultural differences.
Anyone with more more experience than I care to share some info about this beautiful country and it's even more beautiful and awesome people?

I'll follow suit after aswell. :j

Post: #1152

(12-27-2013 04:47 AM)Xiztian Wrote:  I agree. I'm pretty serious about this whole game thing. That's why I went ahead and updated my profile and info a little bit.

As for how I got here (Brazil), I used travel hacking to get me from the US to Brazil for < $10bux!! (more on that if requested).

As for the approach of the girl, I was just doing regular approaches on Ipanema and if you've been to Ipanema beach, you know there's a point on the end where people can go to chill out, think, and/or watch the sunset.

The chick was by herself gazing at the natural beauties to see. I simply walked up and said, "It's nice isn't it." A small conversation here and there and the next thing I knew, I just invited myself to sit down with her (no false time constraints thrown out/not necessary).

You have to get a feel for the atmosphere, blended in, and go with the flow... make it as natural as possible.

Indirect and playful was what has always suited me best.

Anyways, I'm here in Brazil and I know their are cultural differences.
Anyone with more more experience than I care to share some info about this beautiful country and it's even more beautiful and awesome people?

I'll follow suit after aswell. :j

Well, in your original post, it seems that you were asking about ways to get the girl to commit to meeting you further, rather than flaking. I have NOT heard that Brazilian girls are particularly flakey, but I suppose that any girl can be flakey if the guy does NOT set up the situation in a way that works for her - like giving a specific idea that she will agree to or just taking her to the next level.

Also, potentially, if you cannot get the girl to commit to something then maybe it is ripe time to move onto the next approach.

Surely location and culture is important in figuring out how to deal with your approach and figuring out how to get a girl to go to the next level such as an instant date or to meet later or to communicate later with a number close. And, more difficulties, if there is a language barrier.

If you are going to be in Brazil for some time, then I suppose you will have more opportunities to approach more girls, and thereafter, what about your logistics. Do you have a hotel room or something?

Concerning your interests to talk about travel and/or all things cool brazil or even maybe talking about the cultural difference, you may get better luck in a Brazil specific thread and read the thread and/or consider taking those kinds of topics to a brazil specific thread... though maybe some other guy can chime in b/c I do NOT have a whole hell of a lot of experience dealing with Brazilian girls, and I have never been to Brazil.. so I cannot be of much help, there,... beyond some quasi-useless speculation...

Post: #1153

(12-27-2013 04:47 AM)Xiztian Wrote:  Anyone with more more experience than I care to share some info about this beautiful country and it's even more beautiful and awesome people?

I used to live in Rio.

What are your questions/concerns?

Post: #1154

(12-27-2013 12:23 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 04:47 AM)Xiztian Wrote:  Anyone with more more experience than I care to share some info about this beautiful country and it's even more beautiful and awesome people?

I used to live in Rio.

What are your questions/concerns?

Gio, I'll shoot you a PM.

Obrigado

Post: #1155

I was wandering in a department store around Yokohama station and saw 2 girls, 1 girl has the face I like, didn't have the courage to approach as first and some bullshit excuse about don't know what to say entered my mind, but after a while when I saw them again I just said 'fuck it!' in my mind and did 20 push-ups right in the middle of the store and went after her.

Me :"Excuse me, do you know where the pet shop is?"(polite form, because Japanese lol)
Her:"I don't know, you better ask the staff"
something snapped and I hit her with a direct one
Me:"To tell the truth, your face is my type"
Her:"Sorry, we in the middle of shopping" while smiling, I guess ego validation
Me:"Too bad" and walk away, went home and ate.

Should've stay and talk more now that I think about it.

Post: #1156

(12-30-2013 03:06 AM)Felix88 Wrote:  I was wandering in a department store around Yokohama station and saw 2 girls, 1 girl has the face I like, didn't have the courage to approach as first and some bullshit excuse about don't know what to say entered my mind, but after a while when I saw them again I just said 'fuck it!' in my mind and did 20 push-ups right in the middle of the store and went after her.

Me :"Excuse me, do you know where the pet shop is?"(polite form, because Japanese lol)
Her:"I don't know, you better ask the staff"
something snapped and I hit her with a direct one
Me:"To tell the truth, your face is my type"
Her:"Sorry, we in the middle of shopping" while smiling, I guess ego validation
Me:"Too bad" and walk away, went home and ate.

Should've stay and talk more now that I think about it.

I agree that you could have tried one or two more lines; however, congratulations b/c you got passed the hardest part - to open.

Though, when you said "too bad," you exited the convo. One line was an open, then a follow up and then an exit of the convo.

I have similar problems in hesitating to open, and usually, i want to have in mind one or two follow-ups to whatever is the original opening, and then see where the conversation goes - however, sometimes the girl will say something that trips me up, and then I abandon the conversation b/c I am NOT sure what to say next or maybe I say something like you that is an exit (and I understand that practice helps with having an ability to spontaneously respond to unexpected conversation responses without exiting too early).

Post: #1157

I directly approached 5 girls to day, the first 2 obviously don't have much experience with men approaching them(I think they're still highschoolers), unlike the girl yesterday.

Still going nowhere, but the feeling after beating your fear is good, will do 100 direct approachs to see how it go.

Post: #1158

Well, yesterday was quite disappointing, in Japan most people stay home on new year day, I just half-ass approached 2 girls whose faces I don't even like. Didn't intend to go out at night, but my friends wanted to go to Minato Mirai 21 so I just went along, saw a cute girl, did one more direct approach that went nowhere, fooling around a bit and and went home.

Today is better, did 8 non-direct approachs, a bit too tired to type them out now.

I still find myself hesitate a lot before approaching even though I don't care too much about getting rejected but I'm getting a hang of it.

Thinking about doing a 'Bang Yokohama'(no one give a shit about Kanagawa prefecture beside Yokohama) from an Asian perspective

Post: #1159

I categorized the types of responses one gets when one approaches during the day. I'm putting this in my book. What do you day gamers think, did I capture them all? Now I am trying to be very general. If I got too specific, the list would be too long:


The “Blow-Out”: This is pretty rare during the day. This is more common for night game at drinking establishments. This is where a girl acts very rude to you and says mean things in response to your approach. Maybe you did something to scare her, or maybe she has mental problems, or maybe she just has an unpleasant personality. Maybe her boyfriend just dumped her before you came around the corner, and she is taking it out on you. Whatever the reason, get away from her as gracefully as you can.

The “Scared Cat”: You startled her or scared her. She jumps and acts very nervous. If this happens to you a lot, you need to work on your social skills. For example, if a girl is standing on the sidewalk reading something on her phone and you come up from behind and tap her on the shoulder and talk loud to her, she’s probably going to be scared. Don’t expect a good response from a scared cat.

The “Cold Shoulder”: You’ll say something to her, and she will act like she didn’t hear you or she’ll give you a cold non-interested look without saying anything. Or cold one word answers. She isn’t interested and she could use some better social skills. Maybe she doesn’t speak English. Or maybe she felt how you approached her was rude and so she is responding in kind. Move on.

The “I’m in a Hurry, Can’t Talk”: This is a polite and non-confrontational way of someone saying they are not interested or available. She’ll maybe smile and say something short and quick back to you regarding your opener but she’ll act like she is in a hurry to get somewhere or preoccupied doing something else. You probably do this to salesmen or people asking you to sign a petition or take a survey. It’s a polite brush off, but she and you do not have to waste any time. People have a right to not be interested in you and not waste their time on you and this is probably the most polite way she can express this. This will happen a lot to you during day game. Move on.

The “Drop Boyfriend Reference”: She responds warmly to your approach, but will very early on make a nonchalant reference to her boyfriend or husband. I don’t immediately cease the conversation, but I’m out of there shortly thereafter. A couple more minutes and then I gracefully find a way to leave if she hasn’t done so already.

The “Skeptical Yet Intrigued”: She might have a quizzical look on her face, but is at least slightly intrigued. She is not expressing overt interest, and then again she is not trying to hastily get away. She’s on the fence. Maybe she is not used to men approaching her during the day. “What is this about?” seems to be what she is thinking. Sometimes these approaches lead to digits sometimes they do not. This is a pretty good response. Talk to her until you get digits or until she initiates an end to the conversation.

The “Made My Day But Taken”: With these approaches, the girl acts very warmly and seems to enjoy the conversation. She will ask you questions and want to be there with you talking. She seems to be happy and flattered that you approached her. The conversation might go from 15-30 minutes before you ask for digits. Then she tells you she has a boyfriend.

The “Made My Day Let’s Talk”: You approach her and she is interested. You have a conversation lasting 15-30 minutes. She might look at you like she is attracted to you. It might turn into an “insta-date.” Or, you get her digits and talk about getting together again for a drink. This is a good response. She might later flake, but that’s ok, we don’t get frustrated. A certain percentage of these approaches will convert to dates, a smaller percentage will convert to lays.

The “There’s Sex in the Air”: These are rare but not unheard of. She’s interested and there is talk of sex. It’s usually done in a humorous way, but it opens the door to an expedited pathway to sex. These approaches may end with a kiss right there in the day, or even back to your or her place for sex. Or it might end with digits and you are pretty confident the next time you see her there will be sex.

Post: #1160

Went out with a few buddies. Night is just starting, feel a tap on my shoulder. Turn around:

her: wanna take a pic of me and my friends (holding an iphone in her hands, she's with two lady friends)

yup, she's mine (i'd say a 7)

me: sure (take her phone take 3 pics tease them about the pics not being perfect)
me: you look great
her: thanks, laughs
me: please take a pic of me and my friends

she takes the pic

me: now our phones are out, we might as well exchange numbers
her: LOL
me: let's dance

so we dance. my buddies join, her friends join. everyone is entertained. at this point i'm planning the kiss. SNL is no option as i'm heavily in the balkan scene, balkan girls . we go somewhere bit less crowded, exchange numbers immediately. asks for facebook, tell her i don't do facebook. start spitting cocky game, it works. want to go in for the kiss, so tell her to take a walk outside, she seems ok with this. but her friends and my buddies join us. then 3 guys come into the club. walk up to us. smallest of the three asks her something, looks pissed. she looks pissed too by this time.

then all hell breaks loose. he comes at me, his friends hold him back. my friends hold me....though i wasn't trying anything, stayed cool. 3 guys walk away, the girls follow them arguing the whole way.

i'm empty handed. phew...

Post: #1161

I approached a tv news reporter while she was working. A beautiful, tall, blond.

I was driving to work and a hot chick pulled up next to me in freeway traffic. She looked at me and I looked at her. I knew that was my chance to roll down my window and signal her to also roll down her's. I hesitated, I pussed out. She drove off..

I have been in "hibernation" since final exams ended last semester and my skills are a little rusty. I was mad at myself for not seizing that oppurtunity on the freeway. I like little challenges like that that force me step up and display major courage.

I was thinking about the missed oppurtunity as I pulled into work. I told myself that the next pretty girl I see, I am going after, no matter what.

I was dressed nice. As I'm walking in to work, I see the beautiful news lady, we make eye contact. A few minutes later, she walks by, we make eye contact again. I guess she was doing a story near my office.

30 mins later, I walk out of the elevator and she is standing across the lobby, we make and hold eye contact again. I walk right over to her..

me: your working for Steinberg?
her: ya, how'd you know?
me: i was in one of his segments once..
her: seriously, which one?
me: i used to live with the famous basketball coach Micheal Costello
her: oh, I remember that!
me: what sport did you play?
her: i played basketball
me: where?
her: miami of Ohio
me: i thought you were a vollyball player
her: yeah, if i lived in California i would have played vollyball, i think missed my calling
me: maybe reporting is your new calling
her: lol i think it is
me: well, i better let you get back to work, but .. wanna get a bite to eat and talk hoops sometime???
her: sure
me: do you have a card or something?
her: yes

I normally dont approach girl over the age of 21 but this girl was smoking hot. Looked like a Victoria's Secret model.

Just emailed her to set up a date.

*****

I am coming out of my winter hibernation and will be approaching hard from now until next winter..

I will be posting many of my approaches here.

Here's one from yesterday...

I was at the mall shopping for pants. I see a gorgeous half asian-half white girl. Tall and thin. I walked by and noticed her but didn't say anything. I went to the mens section to get an item to hold in my hand.

Having an item in my hand makes it feel like I am shopping and not there to pick up girls. With no item in my hand, the girl might get a feeling that I am more concerned with her than I am about my shopping.

I want her to get a sense that she is secondary to my shopping.

I get my item, a flashy sky blue blazer and I walk back over towards her, pretending to be looking for something else..

I position myself carefully, she walks right in front of me..

me: are you a vollyball player?
her: no, but i get that all the time
me: you look like a beach vollyball player
her: haha thats funny cause im not much of an athlete
me: really, what do you do yoga or something?
her: oh i love yoga, but hey, i gotta run, im running late.
me: oh ok

I don't think she was interested. Next!

I love this stuff!

Post: #1162

^^^

I've let my skills lapse too since the holidays. I've pussed out recently on opportunities I wouldn't be able to contain myself from jumping on a month ago. I'm just going to start ramping up again.

The holidays really seem to throw sand in the gears.

I feel better that the great day gamer Gio backslides at times too!

Time for me to get back on track.

Post: #1163

Just did my first approach of the semester while I was waiting for my next class to start (2nd day of community college). While I walking around aimlessly I kept coming up with bs reasons not to approach girls, so eventually I said fuck it and talked to some cute girl that I walked pass. I opened her by asking where a building was and she didn't know so she asked why I needed to go there and I did and she got more confused. So I told her thanks and she smiled I ended there . I ended because I didn't know how to switch the conversation from some school question to something else. I'll try to do some more approaches before I leave.

Post: #1164

(01-22-2014 01:25 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I feel better that the great day gamer Gio backslides at times too!

I'm not great, I'm just decent. I still get rejected 70%-90% of the time. I just keep going.

I'm my experience, approaching is just like physical exercise. If you don't use a muscle consistently, it will atrophy! Your brain is like a muscle, your social skills are like a muscle, use them or lose them!

Every winter, I take a few months and it always takes me 100 approaches or so to really get back in the groove.

I'm about to go on my lunch break and I'm determined to approach at least 3-4 girls in the next hour.

Post: #1165

(01-22-2014 02:48 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 01:25 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I feel better that the great day gamer Gio backslides at times too!

I'm not great, I'm just decent. I still get rejected 70%-90% of the time. I just keep going.

I'm my experience, approaching is just like physical exercise. If you don't use a muscle consistently, it will atrophy! Your brain is like a muscle, your social skills are like a muscle, use them or lose them!

Every winter, I take a few months and it always takes me 100 approaches or so to really get back in the groove.

I'm about to go on my lunch break and I'm determined to approach at least 3-4 girls in the next hour.

That's how I define a great day gamer, you let rejection roll off your back, keep moving ahead, and ultimately pull some top shelf ass.

Post: #1166

I just had something nice happen which will help me out of my January slump.

I knocked off from work early to take care of some personal business. I finished up early so I walked around downtown to see if there are any bishes. I see a really hot one walking from the other direction I'd love to talk to, but I start to puss out, then she walks up and talks to me!

Her: Excuse me, do you know where xyz street is?
Me: Oh yes, actually I'm moving to that street next month. It's two blocks that way.
Her: Oh congratulations! You're moving to this neighborhood?
Me: No, it's further up that way blah blah. Here let me walk with you I can head that way.

So we walk and talk. She asks me a lot of questions, where I live now, where I work. It turns out she is a college student. She graduates this year with her bachelors so she must be 21 or 22! Sweet.

Me: well I have to head this way.
Her: It was nice meeting you, what's your name again?
Me: Dusty.
<we kind of stand there awkward for a second or two shaking hands>

Me: Would you like to go out sometime?
Her: <acts a little tense and shy but smiles> I uh..ok sure hee hee

Me: Yeah, we can get a drink, Did you ever go to xyz?
Her: No I never heard of it. How about yxz, they have flamingo dancers.

<she mentioned a bar with a spanish name and when she did she rolled the R's).

Me: You're spanish?
Her: Yes, I'm from El Salvador.
Me: I didn't notice any accent until you said something in Spanish.
Her: Oh thank you!

blah blah.

I texted her about 20 minutes later and thanked her for the tip on the bar. She replied back with a quick "no problem", so at least she gave me a real number.

I was pumped and did an approach on the way back. Another young Latina. She was browsing books in front of a bookstore while she waited for the bus. I stood next to her and asked her if she saw anything interesting. We talked about books on the shelf and made fun of some of them. It was going really well until the bus came and she had to hop on. No time for digits. I should have given her my card.

Post: #1167

Guys do you have any advice on how to change the conversation from "do you know where x building is" to something that can lead out to a more open ended discussion?

Post: #1168

I decided to go to the local university today to check out a friend and look for a new course to do just for the fun of it.

Anyway..while we are walking around i see this girl eye fucking me..I am like ''hey how you doing''..she ignores me and keeps on walking..Im just thinking ''all good''. This ''friend'' of mine gets all philosophical about this, ''dude the women here don't like to talk to strangers, they are scaried of strangers, you need to know them before you talk to them''..Im thinking wtf..big difference between an experienced player and a newbie..the experienced player is so used to rejection that he doesn't even think about it, matter fact I didn't even see it as rejection, I just saw it like she didn't want to talk, that's different from being rejected..a newbie wants to over analyse everything..over analysis are depressive, I leave this for depressive people.

Anyway, we keep on walking around, this dude (my so called friend) is 21, virgin and a big nerd, but I like to see him sometimes because he is very intelligent, hard worker and he wants to grow as a person. Anyway, we see this group of girls..I started eye fucking the hottest chick in the group, she notices that I am eye fucking her, she gets all ''hyped up'' talking louder and then turns around for me to see her ass (damn she was hot). After few minutes they started walking towards us to go for lunch and as they pass us..I make the move ''hey how you doing? Can you just stop there for a minute'' (while pointing her to stop)..she stops.. ''I just saw you and I thought I should say hello..I am pitt''..she is like ''I am nicole.. ''..talked to her for like 10 minutes..got the facebook and number and then we left.

This friend of mine was so impressed..''damn dude, I admire you so much, you are very brave, you have all these qualities, I am surprised you are not rich yet'' haha. I told him I am not doing anything in special, I am just fearless when comes to talk to women and I don't care about rejection..he said he needs to start doing it..I told him let's start now..he is like..'' i dont feel inspired today''. I told him if you don't start today you will never start. He didn't want to risk it..oh well

When we are not capable of doing something, we admire those who are capable of doing it, soon as we start doing it, we notice that our fear was just a stupid fear that we built inside our minds and had nothing to do with reality.

To quote one of my friends ''If few people can do it, then anybody can''.

I pity the man who is afraid of being rejected.

Post: #1169

The sun is out, I'm getting back into my approaching routine.

I feel like a man on a mission. I have to remember to smile and relax, any cute bitch I see, I'm approaching..

I arrive at the mall, I park my car, I lock the door, I turn around, BAM!, a cute Latina/Asian right across the street, 18 or 19 years old.

I pretend to be on my phone and unaware of her as I cross the street to her side. As she gets close, I casually put my phone away and "notice" her..

me: hey
her: huh?
me: let me ask you something?
her: wha?
me: do you go to ucsf?
her: oh ya

She is sort of walking away.

me: wait, let me flirt with you for a minute
her: haha

She smiles but keeps walking.

Fuck, I'm rusty. I actually enjoy this time every year when I come out of "hibernation" and get back out onto the streets.

I should have just said "hi" and sort of got in her path and maybe even touched her on the arm to get her attention. Aggressive always works better for me.

*****

Inside the mall, I walk past a store and I make strong eye contact with a young girl working -- 18/19, Latina, 7.5 -- We both smile, I continue walking, I head straight to another big store where I know I can easily grab a pen and paper, I write down my name and number and fold it into a small square. I walk back to the store, she is working in the front area, I walk up from the side, when I'm about 6-8 feet away I make sure to project my voice..

me: u do a great job with those
her: wha? oh thanks
me: i saw you as I was walking by a minute ago
her: oh ya
me: I gotta run but I wrote my number down on this piece of paper

I gently place the piece of paper down on the stuff she is folding..

her: oh ok

Her body language and voice tone was positive. She seemed possibly interested.

me: i know its totally random but whatever, you look nice
her: ya its cool whats your name
me: gio
her: im vanessa

We shake hands. I pretend to be looking at some clothes so the interaction appears natural to onlookers.

me: nice meeting you, text me later
her: ok have a nice saturday night

I really like this type of approach. It's exciting for me and sometimes exciting for the girl. If I do 15-25 of these, I will get a bang or at least a good chance at a bang. There are too many sexually curious, sexually open, slutty, bored, horny young girls out there.

My job is to find them.

*****

Update to earlier post:

The beautiful blond television reporter got back to me and said she is down to hang out.

I know my game is improving because I am getting hotter girls with less time/energy invested.

Headed to another mall today to return some pants and talk to a few more cuties. More updates coming soon..

Post: #1170

Have you guys ever experienced a boyfriend/husband walking up during an approach? What are your thoughts on it?

I had it happen yesterday. Saw this hot Asian in the park laying on a blanket with a little dog. So I walked up and said "Your dog is cute." She said "Oh, thank you!!" and it was off to the races. We talked for a while. She asked me my name. Her best friend lives in the building I'm moving into next month, and she said she would tell her friend about me. Then I see her waving, and some dude starts to walks over. It appears to be her boyfriend. At that point I'm laying on the grass next to her. Awkward. I didn't want to just jump up and run away. I kind of casually petted the dog and said a word or two about the dog so the guy could hear it (so it appears I'm just interested in the dog), then I said I had to run.

This is probably one of the top fears for approach anxiety, that the BF will walk up. But this is the second time it's happened to me. While awkward and not ideal, it isn't that big a deal.

Post: #1171

(01-26-2014 01:47 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Have you guys ever experienced a boyfriend/husband walking up during an approach? What are your thoughts on it?

I had it happen yesterday. Saw this hot Asian in the park laying on a blanket with a little dog. So I walked up and said "Your dog is cute." She said "Oh, thank you!!" and it was off to the races. We talked for a while. She asked me my name. Her best friend lives in the building I'm moving into next month, and she said she would tell her friend about me. Then I see her waving, and some dude starts to walks over. It appears to be her boyfriend. At that point I'm laying on the grass next to her. Awkward. I didn't want to just jump up and run away. I kind of casually petted the dog and said a word or two about the dog so the guy could hear it (so it appears I'm just interested in the dog), then I said I had to run.

This is probably one of the top fears for approach anxiety, that the BF will walk up. But this is the second time it's happened to me. While awkward and not ideal, it isn't that big a deal.

It seems as if you handled the situation very well b/c definitely a guy has to act on his feet in those kinds of situations to transition and in many instances to be prepared to exit - NOT out of fear but out of lack of practicality to stay in such environment... surely, it is best to be able to exit without seeming to fear the guy or the situation (which you, Dusty, seem to have done well).

It may be more difficult if the girl's guy were the jealous and/or irrational type and the girl may have purposefully placed you into such a situation, without your knowing it. Those kinds of situations can be more difficult to deal with b/c then you may be dealing with two irrational folks, rather than one.

It is NOT above me to consider running in a situation that's getting too far out of my control (or understanding).... I recall one time, about a year ago, that I was by myself on the Santa Monica beach park area in the night (around midnight and there were NOT too many people around), and I kind of smiled at a girl that was walking in my direction. Her reaction was strange, assertive and she seemed prepared to get into some kind of shit with me. I saw out of the corner of my eye that there was at least one guy nearby. I did NOT have time to assess the whole situation, but it did NOT seem good. Accordingly, I just bolted out of there b/c the timing and the area did NOT seem to be a good situation if I were to get jumped in that area when I did NOT know who else was around. Usually, if there were more people around, I would try to transition; however, this situation quickly devolved into something unexpected. So, I bolted.

Post: #1172

(01-26-2014 01:47 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Have you guys ever experienced a boyfriend/husband walking up during an approach? What are your thoughts on it?

This doesn't happen that often really if you read her body language and approach ones that are receptive to being approached, but it's not a big deal.

If the guy isn't really aggressive about it I'll just shrug, say "alright" to the guy, "nice meeting you" to the girl and get back to whatever I was doing before approaching the chick. Also, the more attractive girls you approach, the more you'll get this. Hot girls that are into relationships don't stay single for long.

Post: #1173

This is an approach I did in a small town in Zacatecas, Mexico. I posted it on here because its one of the ones I most regret. Girl was a 9 with an amazing ass and olive skin with long black hair and hazel eyes. Just pure Mexican beauty. She was working at a clothes shop and was the only one in charged.


I walk into the store


Her: "Hi, what can I help you with?"
Me: Hi, Well that sweater looks good but you look even better"

She starts blushing and giggling.

Me: "I came here to talk to you because I think you're cute and because I was bored"
Her: "Oh my God you're making me blush" -While smiling
Me: "Hi, im MidWest"- extends handshake
Her: "Alejandra"- shakes my hand
Me: "So what is there to do around here, its pretty boring in this town"
Her: "Yes, its quite boring"
Me: "Any places you recommend me going to, to hang out?"
Her: "hmmm, there is this one place down the street. It gets pretty good"

At this point she is very shy.

Me: "Do you live here?"
Her: "No I live in Zacatecas but I work here"
Me: "Nice"
Her: "Where are you from?"
Me: "Chicago"
Her: "Ok, I got family there"
Me: "Oh really? Nice! You got a man?" (stupid question on my part)
Her: "Ah, yes"
Me: "Seems like you hesitated there"
Her: "No I do"--smiling and blushing at the same time

We started chit-chatting about random things like Mexican dances and all. Then I invited her.

Me: "Let's go out you and me"---I didn't have my phone with me.
Her: "Where?"
Me: "I don't know for ice cream or something"
Her: "Ok but I can't right now I have work"
Me: "After you get off then"
Her: "Ok, pick me up at 5"


Got her to write down her number on a piece of paper. But because of lack of transportation and lack of cellphone I never called her. I was leaving to the states the next day.

Me: "Ill leave you to work"
Her: "Ok"
Me: "See you later"



My game needs more work, im a total newbie. Where did I go wrong on this one? I was surprised she agreed to go on a date despite her telling me she had a bf and me messing up a few times in the interaction. Any advice?

Post: #1174

Great Approach Midwest, You diagnosed the problem yourself, Shouldn't have asked her if has a BF but well done on continuing even after she told you she has a man ....

Words of Wisdom from a Yoda Player "Don't Listen to what women say, listen to their body Language"

One day was enough for you to bang her, get her out for drinks/coffee , bounce , escalate and you know the rest ..........

Post: #1175

Haha Midwest that's such a typical day game interaction with authentic Mexican girls.

You are right you blew yourself out with "you got a man". Do not ask about relationships unless she asks you first. Even then try to avoid the topic. The only correct way to talk about dating and relationships is to talk about people around you "ie you think those two are dating" blah blah.