Post: #26

(12-01-2013 01:58 PM)Caveman Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 12:53 PM)J.J. Wrote:  Why is this a bad thing? If you earned the pussy, you get it. You don't get laid simply because you have a dick and you are a decent person. Do you think lions bitch about betas not getting pussy? I don't see you posting about Bill Gates redistributing a billion dollars to poor people in a socialist scheme, yet you are here asking women to redistribute their pussies from alphas to betas. Socialism doesn't work. And it doesn't work in the sexual marketplace either.

J.J the imbalance of access to pussy in our society is created exactly by the current redistribution of wealth by the state.

One of the major inborn instincts of every woman is the fear of ending up as a single mother. However inborn instincts can either be intensified or diminished depending on the upbringing. For example the inborn fear of heights can be diminished by training to jump with a parachute.

Back to women: Before the redistribution of wealth by the state, a single mother was an outcast of the society (both in recent history and in caveman times). Her life was a sheer misery and she served as a perfect example of what happens to sluts, so other women feared like hell ending up pregnant and dumped by their man. This meant that if an alpha seemed too much of a player and unreliable, she wouldn't even give him a chance and would rather settle for a beta who will at least be dedicated to her and will stay to raise the children.

Sadly today's welfare state greatly diminishes this fear of ending up as a single mother, so women can "experiment" for a whole decade, always trying to get a man at least 3 points higher than herself (on a 1-10 scale), and that's how the alphas of today get much more than their fair share (compared to the alphas in the past), and the access to pussy today is more imbalanced than it ever was in historic or prehistoric times.

Great post.

A few weeks back I read a young guy post here about something in the 1940's (I think was the shortage of men Europe post WWII) and they said "wow, I bet you didn't even need game to get laid with there being nearly 2 women to 1 guy".

You didn't even need game 15 years ago to get laid in even the USA. It helped greatly, but it sure was not needed. Things have gotten that much worse in the last 15 years.

And even in the last 5 years it has gone from needing game, to having to put your full effort into finding women to compete with Facebook. The amount of hoops you have to jump through as a man in the USA today, avoiding all the anti-male laws, and the other pitfalls (jealous ex, pregnancy bankruptcy, drama BS) just seems to not even make it worth while.

Lucky for me I know what is up. But so many young guys don't and many are starting to give up. We are going the route of all the socialist countries, we are self destructing.

Post: #27

(12-01-2013 08:58 AM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 05:15 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  My roommate and I talk about this a lot. Our country is bankrupt. There are little to no opportunities for young men. Construction work has come to a stand still. College reserves spots for women to study English and Women's Studies. Even if you have a college degree, finding a job is still very difficult.

Then you add to that, it is very difficult to get laid in the USA. With women using Facebook to get all their desired male attention. And living off of daddy or living off of the govt., they have little to no use for men. So only the men with the best game seem to get enough sex to be satisfied.

All the while we have police wasting our tax dollars setting up prostitution stings.

The end result is a very violent society. The American people need to wake the hell up before we become a 3rd world country.

Not endorsing p4p here, but if prostitution was legal in the US I would be willing to bet the number of violent crimes committed by guys like this would plummet almost immediately. Why shoot up a mall when you can just shoot a load instead and not hurt anyone?

Disagree.

A lot of these omega guys (ie. George Sodini...though he did appear to have gotten laid in the and even had a daughter) go nuts not because they can't bust a nut. As pointed out, while prostitution is illegal it still is easily available and if it really was just merely the physical act of sex, these guys would have easily been satiated by getting some hooker off of Backpage.

It's not just about actual sexual act and release. A big part of feeling like a man is knowing that you are able to attract and seduce a woman who is attracted to you because of your masculinity. Paying a woman for sex does not satisfy that urge in any way or form. If anything, I would think it would add more to an omega's frustration because it's creates the story in his mind that the only way he can get any woman to pay attention to him is by flashing his cash. Only his money has any worth to women while he the person has none.

Just look at a lot of PUA forums. I get the feeling that a lot of that being able to post a steamy, explicit lay report and getting virtual bro fists is just as gratifying to the guy as being able to have sex with a chick. Just like women get off from having guys paying attention to them since it reassures them of their feminine power, a lot of guys get a similar rush from knowing that they can use their masculine power to get a girl to fall under his spell.

When a man is frustrated in his attempt to express his masculine power in traditional ways such as seducing girls, making money, having accomplishments that other respect - there's a higher chance he'll turn to darker ways to express that drive. That's when we see these mass shootings. These guys are basically saying that if I can't get you to respect me, then I'll get you to fear me.

Post: #28

[/quote]Show me the evidence that these young guys who aren't getting laid are causing a lot of violence? There are a lot of sexually frustrated young beta white guys in America and they aren't causing violence......}


The sexually furstrated white guys:

-join the military
-join the police
-join Corrections
-Homeland Security
-NSA
-FBI
-Marshals
-Customs and Border
--etc....................

these guy go to "WAR" - in military - paramilitary orgs.: War against: Terror, Drugs, Illegals, Domestic Dissidents, Negroes, etc.....

Post: #29

(12-01-2013 03:44 PM)kdolo Wrote:  

Quote:Show me the evidence that these young guys who aren't getting laid are causing a lot of violence? There are a lot of sexually frustrated young beta white guys in America and they aren't causing violence......}

The sexually furstrated white guys:

-join the military
-join the police
-join Corrections
-Homeland Security
-NSA
-FBI
-Marshals
-Customs and Border
--etc....................

these guy go to "WAR" - in military - paramilitary orgs.: War against: Terror, Drugs, Illegals, Domestic Dissidents, Negroes, etc.....

From my personal experience this is not true, the guys (all races) I served with had a lot of range, some were natural players, a few were omegas and most were somewhere in the middle. Most joined for adventurism, to continue a family tradition, to take part in 'history', to feed their wife and kids, desire to experience combat, love of country, to safeguard their communities, green cards, many reasons some legitimate some misguided.

A lot time spent in uniform isn't spent going to 'WAR' or anything exciting it's doing things you don't want to do like cleaning buildings and equipment, picking up trash, CQ duty, sitting around and waiting, etc. A guy would have more time to chase poosy if he didn't join one of those organizations.

Post: #30

It seems that there is a fundamental split in the manosphere between the angry betas, who make up the ranks of the MRAs, and the more libertine game types.

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for the bitter beta types. They are like feminists in that they expect society to be completely structured to give them what they want. That's not the way the world works. Sorry.

Post: #31

A lot time spent in uniform isn't spent going to 'WAR' or anything exciting it's doing things you don't want to do like cleaning buildings and equipment, picking up trash, CQ duty, sitting around and waiting, etc. A guy would have more time to chase poosy if he didn't join one of those organizations.
[/quote]

The often conscious but largely subconscious drive for people who join is for

-belonging, status, power, value, which males typically want in order to improve their reproductive success (SEX) or as a way to channel such drives in a societally acceptable manner.

Post: #32

I think the rage comes from feelings of powerlessness. That comes in three forms: sexual, social, and economic.

The sexual aspect has been covered here. The social element is why guys like Sodini exist: they can get laid through hookers, but that doesn't help them fit in. And the economic arena is why you see guys in the city shooting it up even though they're getting pussy left and right.

Feminism has ratcheted up the frustration up to dysfunctional levels on all three fronts.

1). In terms of sexuality, sexual freedom only freed up a few. Because of that, it created an uneven playing field. In the old days, only a few guys were getting any, but most had a chance after marriage if they were even halfway responsible. Now that's completely changed and we have the bad boy/friendzone divide where the guy women would have married is shut out.

This is a byproduct of feminism few saw. And it's created a loose "harem society" that is not "progressive" but a throwback to older societies. Ironically, those societies were truly patriarchal with a few Alphas siring the majority of the kids. This is something feminists don't get or don't care about.

2). Socially. Schools are now designed by and for females and rigged to make boys outcasts. The default position of "boy" today is the disaffected punk or soon-to-be gangster. If this was "90210" there would be no Brandon character -- all the boys would be Dylan. The few "Brandons" would be either gay or nerds because making the bad boy the norm makes the good guy the loser. All of this breeds dysfunction and is probably why our granddads knew what would happen if we put women in charge, but I digress...

3). Economic. This was a deliberate goal of feminism -- to dis-empower men in the workplace. And I don't need to repeat what's happening do I? Schools churn out more women than men (by design) and they take the jobs men would have had in companies built by men, in towns built by men, etc. Men might not understand this first-hand, because they don't teach you in school "men built and designed everything!" (That would probably now qualify as hate speech.) But men get this on an unconscious emotional level.

Affirmative-action for women took the jobs black men would have gotten since whites feel more comfortable around whites (something feminists never address). All of this further disenfranchises the few guys who did survive the school system. And then there's the Divorce Industrial Complex and family courts, all of which strip men of resources and "empower" women.

When you add up 1, 2 and 3 you don't get 4. You get the Angry Beta. And even if guys think they're Alpha, too many bad school or family court experiences have a way of bringing out the Beta Rage. Which was probably the intent all along.

Post: #33

(12-01-2013 04:29 PM)j r Wrote:  It seems that there is a fundamental split in the manosphere between the angry betas, who make up the ranks of the MRAs, and the more libertine game types.

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for the bitter beta types. They are like feminists in that they expect society to be completely structured to give them what they want. That's not the way the world works. Sorry.

There's a manosphere subset that adapted to the paradigm shift for their own benefit, yet still recognize that the new way is inherently bad for society. As Tanner at Masculine Style writes, "In a thriving civilization the number of Rakes who can fully embrace this archetype are few and far between. However, they thrive and multiply when societies start the slow march to ruin. Therefore, a good indicator of the health of a given society is the degree of allowance, tolerance, or adoration given to the Rakes." Prime examples that come to mind are Quintus Curtius and scorpion, amongst others. It's the subset that I am working towards.

Quote:I think the rage comes from feelings of powerlessness.

Spot on. And what greater power is there than the power over life or death? Harris and Klebold were shooting some and sparing others. Playing God.

Post: #34

The girl to guy ratio where I am right now is atrocious. It's probably something like 7 guys to 1 girl at any given time in any bar or club. It's near impossible to even find a girl you'd want to approach. Can't wait until the South American girls start packing in.

Post: #35

(12-01-2013 01:44 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I'm a very hard working man, but I know I will never meet any women in the USA. I used to have women all over me back in the 1990's, and I had no game at all. I was just a good person, happy, positive and good looking. Now I know game, I know how women work, I know what to say, I actually have money from years of hard work, I've been lifting weights for over 20 years now, and the women seem impossible.

@It_is_my_time, do you account for the fact you're 20 years older now? Are you going after women your age today or still after 20 year olds? I haven't visited the US since the mid 90s, so information like this is valuable to me in case I consider one day to move abroad, I know the situation has deteriorated a lot in the US, but I'd appreciate if you can give us a more detailed post comparing your experiences then and now, and don't forget to include significant variables, like for example that you're 15 years older now.

Post: #36

(12-01-2013 05:06 PM)Caveman Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:44 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I'm a very hard working man, but I know I will never meet any women in the USA. I used to have women all over me back in the 1990's, and I had no game at all. I was just a good person, happy, positive and good looking. Now I know game, I know how women work, I know what to say, I actually have money from years of hard work, I've been lifting weights for over 20 years now, and the women seem impossible.

@It_is_my_time, do you account for the fact you're 20 years older now? Are you going after women your age today or still after 20 year olds? I haven't visited the US since the mid 90s, so information like this is valuable to me in case I consider one day to move abroad, I know the situation has deteriorated a lot in the US, but I'd appreciate if you can give us a more detailed post comparing your experiences then and now, and don't forget to include significant variables, like for example that you're 15 years older now.

I gave up a few years ago. It seems to just be a sucker's game in the USA. So many thirsty betas out there that the women's expectations are sky high.

But women from any where from 20 to 50 seem to be extremely arrogant. 50 year old women have guys their own age chasing them and young guys who can't get women their own age. 25 year old women have everything handed to them and have no idea how good they have it nor appreciate anything.

And I haven't even started to get into how the VAWA directly hurts men or makes it so that if you were to fuck and chuck a woman can call the cops and have felony charges pressed on you for any number of false accusations.

In the 1990's it seemed you just had to fit into some group. Whether it was some sport, or an academic club, or whatever your interests are. Because the women would come around looking for good men with similar interests to them. I didn't have much game. I was just a tall good looking guy who was very optimistic. And I had women all over me. I still cannot believe some of the women I blew off, women with looks like that today wouldn't even acknowledge I exist.

Today it is miserable. Most guys I know are sexually frustrated and will vent about it when not around women/their women. Whether the men are married, single, dating or players, they all seem to be extremely sexually frustrated. It wasn't like that in the 1990's. Only the married guys complained back then.

Post: #37

(12-01-2013 04:29 PM)j r Wrote:  It seems that there is a fundamental split in the manosphere between the angry betas, who make up the ranks of the MRAs, and the more libertine game types.

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for the bitter beta types. They are like feminists in that they expect society to be completely structured to give them what they want. That's not the way the world works. Sorry.

I thought this was the split as well, coming from the MRA side first.

But after discovering this site, I realize that isn't the case.

It seems to be split among the young guys who think the only goal in life is to get laid and the older/more experienced guys who realize how much damage feminism is doing to our lives.

Post: #38

(12-01-2013 05:42 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  It seems to be split among the young guys who think the only goal in life is to get laid and the older/more experienced guys who realize how much damage feminism is doing to our lives.

I see that split, but I also see a split between guys who focus on their immediate concerns and corner of the world and guys who have a wider societal/global outlook. Neither is better than the other. Different preferences.

Which camp(s) you fall under likely stems from your personality type (MBTI).

Post: #39

(12-01-2013 05:51 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 05:42 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  It seems to be split among the young guys who think the only goal in life is to get laid and the older/more experienced guys who realize how much damage feminism is doing to our lives.

I see that split, but I also see a split between guys who focus on their immediate concerns and corner of the world and guys who have a wider societal/global outlook. Neither is better than the other. Different preferences.

Which camp(s) you fall under likely stems from your personality type (MBTI).

I disagree though. If you support leftist feminist policies so you can get laid, it is only a matter of time before it destroys your life (false rape charges, pregnancy debtors prison, sexual harassment loss of career) and it destroys everyone else's life.

A man must think beyond the next few days of fun.

Post: #40

(12-01-2013 05:42 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 04:29 PM)j r Wrote:  It seems that there is a fundamental split in the manosphere between the angry betas, who make up the ranks of the MRAs, and the more libertine game types.

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for the bitter beta types. They are like feminists in that they expect society to be completely structured to give them what they want. That's not the way the world works. Sorry.

I thought this was the split as well, coming from the MRA side first.

But after discovering this site, I realize that isn't the case.

It seems to be split among the young guys who think the only goal in life is to get laid and the older/more experienced guys who realize how much damage feminism is doing to our lives.

________

I hear you, man. I really do. But you've got to stay positive and keep the morale up. Otherwise it's just darkness. Like you, I was a very young guy in the 1990s and it was about the same as today in the US, with the major difference being the internet/social media has made women worse.

Don't abandon yourself to despair. Because then it just becomes a bottomless pit...there's no end to it. You are absolutely right about most of the things you're saying, but you've got to find ways of getting around the obstacles. Those ways are:

1. Travel abroad frequently, or take an extended sabbatical abroad to unplug from the Matrix.
2. Target foreign women here in the US, as G Manifesto does and has advocated. I also do this.

We're living in dark times. If it makes you feel any better, know that this has happened periodically in history. In the early medieval centuries in Europe, the chaos and violence of society drove many men to retreat from the responsibilities of marriage by entering monastic orders. I'm not advocating this, only stating that we are now in a new landscape from what our fathers and grandfathers knew. We need to adapt or we will perish.

Do not despair...I made my resolution on this issue a while ago and that's why I signed up for this stuff here. That's why I do this.

I'm not going to let these fuckheads get the better of me. On the contrary. We're coming after them....hard.

Post: #41

(12-01-2013 05:55 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 05:42 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 04:29 PM)j r Wrote:  It seems that there is a fundamental split in the manosphere between the angry betas, who make up the ranks of the MRAs, and the more libertine game types.

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for the bitter beta types. They are like feminists in that they expect society to be completely structured to give them what they want. That's not the way the world works. Sorry.

I thought this was the split as well, coming from the MRA side first.

But after discovering this site, I realize that isn't the case.

It seems to be split among the young guys who think the only goal in life is to get laid and the older/more experienced guys who realize how much damage feminism is doing to our lives.

________

I hear you, man. I really do. But you've got to stay positive and keep the morale up. Otherwise it's just darkness. Like you, I was a very young guy in the 1990s and it was about the same as today in the US, with the major difference being the internet/social media has made women worse.

Don't abandon yourself to despair. Because then it just becomes a bottomless pit...there's no end to it. You are absolutely right about most of the things you're saying, but you've got to find ways of getting around the obstacles. Those ways are:

1. Travel abroad frequently, or take an extended sabbatical abroad to unplug from the Matrix.
2. Target foreign women here in the US, as G Manifesto does and has advocated. I also do this.

We're living in dark times. If it makes you feel any better, know that this has happened periodically in history. In the early medieval centuries in Europe, the chaos and violence of society drove many men to retreat from the responsibilities of marriage by entering monastic orders. I'm not advocating this, only stating that we are now in a new landscape from what our fathers and grandfathers knew. We need to adapt or we will perish.

Do not despair...I made my resolution on this issue a while ago and that's why I signed up for this stuff here. That's why I do this.

I'm not going to let these fuckheads get the better of me. On the contrary. We're coming after them....hard.

I have only given up on the USA. I advise all men to do this. Not just because the women here are so bad and it is so hard to get laid. But because of all the laws and regulations destroying men's lives, all the while the govt. points guns at our backs and tell us to hand over 35% of our pay to support these same terrible women and get nothing in return.

I have not given up on life. I work 90 hours a week on average. All so I can move overseas. TBH, I probably now have enough to move overseas, but I want to make sure I have all my bases covered first.

But I have given up on the USA.

Post: #42

(12-01-2013 05:54 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 05:51 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 05:42 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  It seems to be split among the young guys who think the only goal in life is to get laid and the older/more experienced guys who realize how much damage feminism is doing to our lives.

I see that split, but I also see a split between guys who focus on their immediate concerns and corner of the world and guys who have a wider societal/global outlook. Neither is better than the other. Different preferences.

Which camp(s) you fall under likely stems from your personality type (MBTI).

I disagree though. If you support leftist feminist policies so you can get laid, it is only a matter of time before it destroys your life (false rape charges, pregnancy debtors prison, sexual harassment loss of career) and it destroys everyone else's life.

A man must think beyond the next few days of fun.

Not what I meant. A guy focused on immediate concerns and corner of the world doesn't care much about feminism or leftism or thisism/thatism. He's just thinking about how best to get that new bar on-lock to pull. Is this shirt going to improve my odds? NSA spying on American citizens? Meh, doesn't affect me. Nothing to hide.

Granted, I have a hard time relating as I fall firmly into the latter camp (and should be focusing on more local and immediate concerns as a matter of personal balance).

Someone who knowingly supports leftist feminist policies because it has short term benefits for him, without regard to others or long term consequences, is a fraud (to borrow Taleb's favorite label). Frauds should be tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rusty rail.

Post: #43

So What is your take on a time frame like the 20s I dont think men were having lots of sex then unless they were married or nearly married and I've never heard much abut random acts of violence. I blame the current trend more on entitled kids more than anything.

I could be completely wrong but having easy pussy is a relatively new thing isnt it?

(12-01-2013 05:09 AM)soup Wrote:  I believe that we are going to see an up-swing of "random" acts of violence in the coming future.

It has been argued that most of these are caused by frustrated young men.

It can be argued that all the mass shootings were done by guys like that. Also, the new knockout game trend is an example of what I think is anger arising from not having constant sex.

I also think a lot of the "terrorist" movements generated in the middle east stem from this as well.

Here is a place to post about these kinds of atrocities. Please avoid posting gore/troll videos.

Post: #44

(12-01-2013 04:56 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  The girl to guy ratio where I am right now is atrocious. It's probably something like 7 guys to 1 girl at any given time in any bar or club. It's near impossible to even find a girl you'd want to approach. Can't wait until the South American girls start packing in.

I believe summer vacation for Argentine universities starts in sixteen days.

Post: #45

(12-01-2013 09:47 AM)houston Wrote:  Things wouldn't change much if prostitution was legal. There's massage parlors and backpage escorts everywhere here. Most guys think its creepy to go that route and would rather jack off while thinking about their female BFF. America has done a good job of making a bunch of sexually frustrated pussies.

But a lot of guys are afraid because its Illegal.... nobody want to get busted by the cops on a prostitution sting. Also, IMO there was much much higher class brothels and hookers. Go look at a brother in Nevada and compare it to a brothel in any other random state.

Post: #46

(12-01-2013 06:03 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  So What is your take on a time frame like the 20s I dont think men were having lots of sex then unless they were married or nearly married and I've never heard much abut random acts of violence. I blame the current trend more on entitled kids more than anything.

I could be completely wrong but having easy pussy is a relatively new thing isnt it?

That's the thing - most men at that time were able to get married and stay married. Unless you were a total deadbeat fuck up, you could find a girl (that you found attractive) who would be willing to sign on to your team and provide sex in return for provisioning. This cottage industry that has sprung up around "game" shows just how out of whack things have gotten. Meeting women should be straightforward and was for a long time. The fact that you now need the equivalent of a four year degree and three internship's worth of experience to have any semblance of success is telling.

Post: #47

This is a great thread, probing the deepest, darkest issues.

At some point, we have to take a firm stand and say "no more." Not one further retreat, not one further step backward. For me, I've crossed my own Rubicon on this a while back and I refuse to abandon myself to despair. We're the ones who are right, and history will prove us right.

Feminism and all this related spinoff shit created all these problems, and by some accident of history, it has fallen on our shoulders to have to deal with it. Bad luck? Maybe. But that's life. I refuse to abandon myself to despair. If you have an escape plan, then go for it and don't look back. Sharpen your tomahawk and wait for the day of reckoning. And be prepared for anything. And if it means being single for the rest of my life, so be it. Fuck it, and fuck society.

Because this shit is spreading all over the world. I got an email today from a Brazilian friend who lives a small Brazilian city near Sao Paolo. He told me a story that illustrates this point.

Last night he picked up a girl and brought her back to his apartment. She gave him some last minute resistance and then finally came to his bed. But then she started to say shit like, "my pleasure is more important than yours", and show signs of selfishness and bitchiness. He got pissed off and basically threw her ass out. He was asking me if he did the right thing and I said "Hell yes."

He then went on to explain that he's noticing that a lot of guys are starting to become and act more effeminate than they used to be, compared with 5 or ten years ago. Women are becoming more bitchy, more "50 Shades of Grey", and more responsive to beta male behavior than they used to. Essentially, he's noticing that alpha behavior seems to be not as rewarded as beta behavior (being sneaky, passive aggressive, indecisive, etc).

Bottom line: feminization of the male member of the species is creeping all over the planet. It is happening. So we've got to find ways of fighting back. And I consider this Forum and ROK a key part of that combat.

Post: #48

(12-01-2013 06:36 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  This is a great thread, probing the deepest, darkest issues.

At some point, we have to take a firm stand and say "no more." Not one further retreat, not one further step backward. For me, I've crossed my own Rubicon on this a while back and I refuse to abandon myself to despair. We're the ones who are right, and history will prove us right.

Feminism and all this related spinoff shit created all these problems, and by some accident of history, it has fallen on our shoulders to have to deal with it. Bad luck? Maybe. But that's life. I refuse to abandon myself to despair. If you have an escape plan, then go for it and don't look back. Sharpen your tomahawk and wait for the day of reckoning. And be prepared for anything. And if it means being single for the rest of my life, so be it. Fuck it, and fuck society.

Because this shit is spreading all over the world. I got an email today from a Brazilian friend who lives a small Brazilian city near Sao Paolo. He told me a story that illustrates this point.

Last night he picked up a girl and brought her back to his apartment. She gave him some last minute resistance and then finally came to his bed. But then she started to say shit like, "my pleasure is more important than yours", and show signs of selfishness and bitchiness. He got pissed off and basically threw her ass out. He was asking me if he did the right thing and I said "Hell yes."

He then went on to explain that he's noticing that a lot of guys are starting to become and act more effeminate than they used to be, compared with 5 or ten years ago. Women are becoming more bitchy, more "50 Shades of Grey", and more responsive to beta male behavior than they used to. Essentially, he's noticing that alpha behavior seems to be not as rewarded as beta behavior (being sneaky, passive aggressive, indecisive, etc).

Bottom line: feminization of the male member of the species is creeping all over the planet. It is happening. So we've got to find ways of fighting back. And I consider this Forum and ROK a key part of that combat.

Great post.

I plan to leave the USA, but I know the fight will remain regardless. We have the rich bankers controlling world economies and pushing this shit to bankrupt families and help de-populate the globe. And it will be one hell of an uphill battle, but I don't want other men and future men to have to go through the shit the men in the USA have to go through on an average day.

Post: #49

Yep merenguero, the argentines and Brazilians should be packing in soon. They should be coming in around Christmas. By January it will be full swing South Americans everywhere. I expect a lot of Brazilians this year because last year a lot of them couldn't come because of a teacher strike in brazil. They were all stuck in school so couldn't get visas.

Post: #50

(12-01-2013 05:51 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  Which camp(s) you fall under likely stems from your personality type (MBTI).

Elaborate on this more. I'm an ENFP and totally interested in the stereotypes you've picked up

It's good to see this being talked about on the forum. I've been in a sort of rut lately regarding all of these issues. I don't think the US is going to reach a dark ages level of societal shutdown, but I do see society stagnating in ways that will alienate a lot of men on the lower rungs of our society.

I'm going to start learning Japanese. Might try my luck in Asia. That will be fun. But I am getting tired of this country.