Post: #51

I've been taking a break from the manosphere for business reasons. But I came back temporarily to comment on this. I have some inside knowledge about her and what's being discussed. I'll do my usual number thing.

About Deen:

1). Regarding "consent" to beat up a woman, like Deen does -- be careful with this, especially with younger women. What a woman "consents" to at night might just prompt her to call in her her father, her lawyer, or the cops when she sees the bruises on her body the next day. Do NOT assume women are rational about this. You've heard of "regret rape?" Well, there's "regret violence" as well.

2). What feminists don't realize is that Deen's violent videos have a ripple effect. Teens see this and take for granted what we see as a "turn off" (which someone mentioned). So to turn their cliche around: "Would you want this done to your sister?" Or future wife? If you say "yes," you're a liar.

3). The mainstreaming of this type of sexual violence is rungs below anything even the worst of us here have promoted. It infuriates me that Deen gets a pass giving women bruises yet PUAs are "evil" for bedding women. This is the morality of Sodom and Gomorrah. Actually, this is the morality of today's feminism, which is about the same thing.

I may be in touch in the future about doing something on Deen that makes explicit what he's doing and feminist's complicity in it.

About Jenn Tisdale:

1). She is not Ashley's sister although they share the same name. She is not a writer. She's a would-be comedienne trying to make it in the DC scene -- and this is the closest she's gotten to fame. As for writing, she's written entries on a DC blog called Brightest Young Things. That's it as far as I can tell.

2). Here is an interview where she talks about her background. No dad. "Dads who vamoose make girls who are loose."

3). More on her is included in the full video with Deen. She says her breasts are fake. She's thinking about having them "replaced." She's talks about tapping into her 401K to do this.

4). Linkedin shows that 401K comes courtesy of a Baltimore law firm called Goldberg, Godles, Wiener & Wright where she (probably still) works.

5). If she does still work there, it'll be hard to explain it when the full clip inevitably appears under her real name on one of the porn streaming sites.

6). Deen has a hard time getting it up in the video. You'd think he'd at least have popped a Viagra. The preview clip is actually better than the full thing.

Post: #52

(11-07-2013 08:40 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  But yeah, she'd have to be pretty hot and I'd be wary as a mofo.

If she was pretty hot, she'd already have better options.

Post: #53

Nick Manning and Lexington Steele aren't popular with the feminist crowd?

Post: #54

Damn I was just about to say..she had a awesome pair or tits for a 33 year old with a busted face.
Then i found out they are fake :\
for 33 ill still give her body a 7 face is a 4...damn that face is busted.

Ill have to check out the full video later..i just saw the preview.


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This is actually kinda sad though..this chick is 33 aka has probably exhausted her career options...shes a small time blogger/comedian...the best thing she could think of was to abandon society and try to do porn..even dropping her boyfriend (beta chump)

she isnt special...James Deen is a player just like the rest of us. she pretty much through herself the the grinder..( starship trooper)

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Post: #56

Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:3). The mainstreaming of this type of sexual violence is rungs below anything even the worst of us here have promoted. It infuriates me that Deen gets a pass giving women bruises yet PUAs are "evil" for bedding women. This is the morality of Sodom and Gomorrah. Actually, this is the morality of today's feminism, which is about the same thing.

Post: #57

(11-07-2013 06:21 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I think you guys are giving this Deen fellow too much credit for being a marketing mastermind. Odds are she was the best of the lot who volunteered to get fucked on camera for no compensation.

But there is the fact he choose someone who got him on the front page of Jeezebel, which means more female viewers, his target audience, for him.

My guess is that none of the offers were particularly appealing, but this one offered the most "side benefits" so he choose accordingly.

Post: #58

This guy is exploiting the fact that a lot of people aren't having real relationships in their lives these days.

Everybody is a "friend" via facebook.

People are going to tune in to watch a girl actually being turned on by the badness and kinky sluttiness of that video.'

People want to see "the girlfriend experience"

Guys get off masochistically to the idea of being cuckolded because they secretly believe that they are themselves worthless, and it's only natural for the women to leave them.

Post: #59

Also, I have trouble looking at these kinds of porn when the sex I am having rivals what goes on in the videos.

Post: #60

Call me what you want, but I looked at the trailer, and quite honestly...I'd hit it. Sure as hell wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd smash it without batting an eye. Ceterum censeo Osakam esse delendam.

Post: #61

(11-07-2013 02:11 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Male porn stars have to be ready, willing and able to fuck the ugliest women in the world on demand. That's part of the job description.

To be able to fuck this hag is f'ing child's play. They have to be able to fuck obese black women without so much as batting an eyelash. Think about it.

There is a reason why a tiny number of men make virtually all the porn produced in the world, and dick size is the least of it. It's a tough job, and I tip my hat off to these heroes.

Yes, we should put them up on posters with cops, firefighters, first-responders, etc.

Post: #62

(11-08-2013 02:49 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 06:21 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I think you guys are giving this Deen fellow too much credit for being a marketing mastermind. Odds are she was the best of the lot who volunteered to get fucked on camera for no compensation.

But there is the fact he choose someone who got him on the front page of Jeezebel, which means more female viewers, his target audience, for him.

My guess is that none of the offers were particularly appealing, but this one offered the most "side benefits" so he choose accordingly.

I dont think he gets many appealing ones for his own tastes, considering the casting call videos he has, the porn stars all look better than the amateurs.

Post: #63

(11-07-2013 02:11 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Male porn stars have to be ready, willing and able to fuck the ugliest women in the world on demand. That's part of the job description.

To be able to fuck this hag is f'ing child's play. They have to be able to fuck obese black women without so much as batting an eyelash. Think about it.

There is a reason why a tiny number of men make virtually all the porn produced in the world, and dick size is the least of it. It's a tough job, and I tip my hat off to these heroes.

That's probably the case with some, but I don't think many. Just like any contractor has the ability to pick his jobs and refuse the unappealing ones, surely they have the ability to brand themselves as high-class and turn down requests to bang fatties?

Post: #64

I thought almost all the amateur chicks who answer the open casting calls have bfs. At least in the intro interview section the guy always asks the girl "Do you have a bf" and she almost always says yes. Then he asks, "does he know where you are right now" and they unanimously giggle "no haha" in reply. Or is that fake too?

Post: #65

A few thoughts on the boyfriend angle. She says that they are in an open relationship, but when you translate hamster to English that could mean anything. A few possibilities:

-The most obvious is that she has some herb boyfriend who lets her bang other dudes because he is afraid that if he says no, she will leave him.

-Another possibility is that she is in an open relationship and the dude is still a herb, but he's OK with this because he is some mangina who has internalized all this nonsense about slutty behavior being empowering. If this is the case, he probably also gets off a little on the idea of his girl banging a famous hipster porn star with a 9" cock.

-The other alternative is that she doesn't have a boyfriend at all, but she has some dude who called her up once every week or so for sex. She likely hopes this will make him jealous and convicted convince him to commit to something more or help her get over him. If a dude like that disapproves, it's not because he's jealous but because he sees how it's completely skanky behavior.

I've been seeing a lot of this open relationship nonsense in DC lately and it's completely female driven. These chicks get the support of the beta boyfriend and the freedom to chase alpha dick.

Post: #66

(11-08-2013 08:31 AM)j r Wrote:  I've been seeing a lot of this open relationship nonsense in DC lately and it's completely female driven. These chicks get the support of the beta boyfriend and the freedom to chase alpha dick.

It's becoming more mainstream.

It's still weird when couples openly describe themselves as open.
But it used to be Renaissance fair freak territory. Now not as much.

The normalization of homosexuality and gay marriage paves the way for "polyamory", i.e. players fucking other guy's girlfriends.

Ten years ago, liberal blogs wouldn't have dreamed of promoting this shit. Today, they're all about pushing open relationships and glorified cuckoldry on men.

Post: #67

(11-08-2013 08:05 AM)Pyre Wrote:  I thought almost all the amateur chicks who answer the open casting calls have bfs. At least in the intro interview section the guy always asks the girl "Do you have a bf" and she almost always says yes. Then he asks, "does he know where you are right now" and they unanimously giggle "no haha" in reply. Or is that fake too?

I always assume something in porn is bullshit until proven otherwise.

Post: #68

(11-08-2013 01:14 PM)Seboist Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 08:05 AM)Pyre Wrote:  I thought almost all the amateur chicks who answer the open casting calls have bfs. At least in the intro interview section the guy always asks the girl "Do you have a bf" and she almost always says yes. Then he asks, "does he know where you are right now" and they unanimously giggle "no haha" in reply. Or is that fake too?

I always assume something in porn is bullshit until proven otherwise.

I don't know, man. It really seems as if almost all hotchicks have bfs or are seeing someone who they can call their bf. Chicks are single the way guys are single.

Post: #69

So..is the tape out yet?

Post: #70

Many female pornstars (girls who are in hundreds of films) have boyfriends.

It's definitely different than this, but it's still a strange situation to think about.

Post: #71

funny, I live in DC and had an open relationship. she didnt do anything and I railed everything that walked.

and I beat the hell out of my partners. and they love it.

text me the next day saying these bruises remind me I belong to you.

you guys telling me I'm a sicko? is that where we are now on this board?

and yes i've whipped, bruised, choked, spit on, pissed on and otherwise defiled a wonderful girl who is now the mother of one of my kids.

are we passing judgment on sexual tastes between consensual adults now?

you are crazy to think that this type of desire by women a) hasn't been around forever and b) isn't latent in practically every single one of them

Post: #72

^^^^^^^^^^^

What you do on your personal time is a different thing the public hypocrisy both Deen and Jezebel and the feminist blogs are involved in.

Deen is selling violence as mainstream sexuality in a public (not private) space and profiting off that. Meanwhile, the feminist blogs worship Deen's abusive screen persona while claiming practically every *other* thing men do is "abuse" -- from catcalling. to *talking* to a woman in an elevator, to making a "dongle" joke. Put their influences together and they create a lethal booby-trap society for the average young guy. What's abuse and what's not? Whatever they say it is! Not my kind of society.

Back to the video.

The 28-minute sex portion of it made it to the streaming sites. Find the site that starts with a "X" and ends with that little animal that's like a mouse. If you don't know the animal of which I speak, Google the words. "roissy" and "rationalization" together.

Then just put either of this woman's names in the site's search engine and it will come up. That will be the most exciting part of this whole thing.

Post: #73

Just a publicity stunt. period. But a very effective one because it gets mainstream attention.

How many women and men would not only watch this but also buy Deen's videos?

The normal girl next door gets pumped, any woman's fantasy! now it gets rationalized by a "normal" writer wo could be your neighbor.

Post: #74

A lot of chicks think Deen is the hottest porn star, which is interesting because he's not the jacked-up, tatted-up roid monkey that has been the norm among male porn actors for the lat 15 years of so. He's slender and toned, but that's it

Post: #75

(11-09-2013 04:17 PM)MrXY Wrote:  A lot of chicks think Deen is the hottest porn star, which is interesting because he's not the jacked-up, tatted-up roid monkey that has been the norm among male porn actors for the lat 15 years of so. He's slender and toned, but that's it

That may be true but we all know never take a girls word on anything. Look at the 50 shades of grey dude, no matter who they choose a lot of girls would bitch and moan about someone else.