Post: #276

I really enjoy these daily updates, partly because I like passing along information, partly because it provides an account of my trip I can look back on months/years from now, and partly because it helps me recount what I did and try to learn from it. Anyway...

Night was supposed to start off with a double date, girls from last week (blonde 8 and go-go). An hour before, get a text that they are cancelling because my buddy's girl couldn't make it. So I texted the blonde back, let's go you and me. She agreed, so met her out at a cafe. I was wearing blazer and pink button down/jeans.

As a side note, I wasn't too excited about her because though I remember her being pretty damn attractive, I saw pics later and I was thinking less of her. However, when she showed up it was one of those "hell yes" moments. She was pretty damn attractive, 5'10, long flowing blonde hair, great makeup/eyes and fantastic body (no stomach folds upon sitting). I was pretty happy.

We start our date at the cafe and she knows zero English. And she doesn't want to use the translator. As hard as it was, I ended up having a 2.5 hour date in all Russian. We broke out the translator maybe 5-6 times, that's it. Split a pitcher of mojito and a fruit platter, chatted, really sweet girl. 23 years old, studying for her master's or something, etc.

After we close out she asks what to do, I suggest a hookah place a block from my apartment. At first she agreed but when we started walking towards it she had a change of heart, had to work at 9am and said let's just meet again tonight (all 4 of us this time) when she can stay out later because she doesn't have to work the next day. More on this later. We walked back to outside my apartment when she called the taxi, offered for her to come up for tea or coffee but she wouldn't. Literally the second I was about to go for the makeout the taxi pulls up, so there goes that. It seems (and I've learned in my young years that it always is a perception, often not reality) that she is not a slut. When I met her the first night at the club she was not drinking as she drove there, she doesn't smoke, and wouldn't come upstairs. Off she goes.

Now it's about 1am almost and my buddy is out on a date with one of the girls we met the night before at the empty club. He says date went well, and I wanted to call it a night but he said just come out for one drink. I was so damn tired, but I went.

Funny enough, the girl wanted to meet my buddy at the same club they met at before. So he was waiting for me to go there, I told him go tell the bartender she gave me a fake number. He went, she said no no no that wasn't my intention and then called my phone with her number. Though I'm not that interested in her, I guess it helps the ego to know it wasn't a fake number. Actually I didn't care, more funny than anything.

Anyway, meet up with him go to our standard club we've been to about 8x now. At the door, they let him in but not me! I have no idea what the guy is saying, so I ask him if he can speak English. He looks at me and says "amerikanski?" I say "Da, v Los Angelese". Looks at me for another 10 seconds, and finally concedes and let's me in. I still can't figure out what it was, the only two guesses are: 1) I looked super tired because I was and he thought I was drunk/liability, or 2) he thought I was gay because I was wearing a pink/salmon button down and a blazer and they hate gay people in Russia.

Either way, we go in and the club is not that bad for a Tuesday night. By now the bartender knows me very well, so go up to him and get two white russians, which is now my favorite drink. Hit on the girl next to us by asking for a lighter, no love. Rotate to other side of bar, and there are three girls just getting obliterated, drinking, dancing, etc. First ask for a lighter, she obliges but doesn't hook.

Another side note - I'm done with the lighter intro as my intro. At least in Russia, that doesn't hook them. It worked like a charm in Kiev, but not here.

So I smoke my cigarette, and then write on my translator "Are you celebrating?". She looks and then responds in English, we chat it's going well. She introduces me to her friends, one of them seems very interested, the best looking one. We chat a bit but I get the sense it's more novelty than interest.

Two blondes walk in, my buddy says he wants to go talk to them. I'm still with these 3 girls, sort of, and don't want to leave yet so I tell him go to our bartender, order two more white russians, talk to those girls and if you are not back in a few minutes I'll come get my drink and join you.

So he goes, I stay and occasionally talk to those girls but nothing really sticking. I go to my buddy, he has the two girls hooked. I get my drink, he introduces me and there is one clear one he is working on so I start chatting up the other. She tells me she understands English but only can really speak Russian back. Ok. We chat, I'm very touchy and she is very receptive.

At one point blondes go to the bathroom, and just for a safety net I go back to the 3 girls who are partying like no other. Now only the most attractive one is sitting there alone, the other girls are dancing. I ask her why she doesn't dance, she tells me she is a stripper and tonight is her night off! Then she tells me she just broke up with her boyfriend! Talk about hitting the lottery. Eventually the blondes come back, and I'm trying to hedge my bets here. Since I have had little outward interest from the stripper, and more direct interest from the blonde, and they are the same looks wise, I go back to the blonde.

We keep drinking with them, things are going good. Buy them two drinks, we all toast, by now my hand is straight massaging this girl's back, neck, scalp, etc. We invite them over for champagne at our place, my girl is down but my buddy's isn't. Not sure what happened, but she soured at some point. Hard to tell when you don't have the grasp of the language. Eventually some massive Siberian dude comes and starts hitting on her, so my buddy leaves and goes back to those three girls from earlier (now 2) since I told him she is a stripper that just broke up with her boyfriend.

As painful as it was, the blonde was ready to come home with me but wouldn't leave her friend. She even went and asked her two or three times and her friend nixed the idea. Got her number, she asked me to dial it so she can have my number on her phone, and then she left.

Go back to my buddy and the two girls, and lukewarm interest. The stripper actually offered her number to my buddy but he refused it, being so disenchanted with getting so many numbers and resulting in 0 bangs in Tomsk. I told him he was in an idiot.

Stripper and her friend and now wasted, the club has a pole of course so the stripper gets on there and puts on a hell of a fucking show. No nudity, but she's dancing like a siren, whipping her long ass Siberian hair in the most sexual of ways while balancing herself on the pole using only her legs. We watch for about 20 minutes, notice those two girls leave so I tell him get up let's walk out the same time.

We exit one minute after them, I said something along the lines of "hey girls, there you are." They looked at me like I was an alien so we just left. I was hoping they were in "I'm so drunk, I still want to party" mood instead it seemed more of "I'm so drunk, I need to go home" mood. Oh well.

Now the blonde I went out with on the date, she wants to take me, my buddy, the girl he was supposed to go out with and her around Tomsk in her car, then all go to a club. Problem is tonight I already have plans with the girl I boned and her Brazilian looking friend. Not sure which one I want to go with. On one hand, that blonde is very attractive, I should continue the momentum and probably need a lot of facetime before I get a shot at the bang. On the other hand, I'm quite horny getting used to constant sex in Ukraine before coming to Russia, and want to make amends for my horrible bang last time. This is going to be a tough choice. Also, I'm probably going to defer to my buddy since he needs a bang, so maybe I'll let him choose which girl he wants to see.

I think I could have a rotation of some nice looking girls if I was here longer. I've been here 9 days so far, it just seems like so much longer since we go out every night. I can't even imagine what it's like when school's in session. Ahhh, I may have to delay Moscow yet again. I really want both blondes from tonight.

Post: #277

A few pictures:

Your competition..


A little reminder of Kiev. Most Siberian girls do not look like this.


Cafe where we go to pregame before going out. Decent amount of talent here.


Poster in the gym we joined.


Speaking of which, here's the Siberian gym. Old old equipment, very dilapidated conditions, empty vials of something in the garbage.




A girl pouring her heart out to my friend a few nights ago.

Post: #278

Your last few posts remind me of English Teacher X and his Russian exploits. It's encouraging to know that that Russia still exists.

Post: #279

You're moving into the golden zone now, converting leads, making connections, become a local, but in you mind you wonder if the tundra is even greener behond the horizon..

Post: #280

Hey slubu what is the best RUssian translator?it doesn't look like google. Is there one you can use without Internet connection?

Post: #281

jimukr, I use this one: http://www.ispeech.org/apps/translator. It does need an internet connection however.

Post: #282

slubu, who you recommend as the local cell provider? MTS?

Post: #283

From what the cell lady told me, MTS is better if you use the internet too (3G or whatever). If not, then MegaFon is cheaper. I had MegaFon in Novo, and MTS here in Tomsk. Not sure what I will get in Moscow.

Post: #284

I deferred to my buddy last night on which girls he wanted to see, he chose the brazilian girl double date, didn't work out for him. I banged the ONS from Saturday night again, this time successfully lasted more than 2 minutes. Also, I have something non-sexual but hilarious to share, but the girls are still here.

Have I mentioned how much I love EE? I guess technically I'm in Asia right now but you get the point. I went to clean the dishes from last night's dinner party and my girl came over and told me to "go over there" and cleaned everything. And both girls are only wearing a tshirt and underwear.

Post: #285

(08-01-2013 12:52 AM)slubu Wrote:  Have I mentioned how much I love EE? I guess technically I'm in Asia right now but you get the point. I went to clean the dishes from last night's dinner party and my girl came over and told me to "go over there" and cleaned everything. And both girls are only wearing a tshirt and underwear.

Last night this Russian girl I'm seeing started off the date by telling me how she just got a new boss and was sooooo happy it's a man now and not a woman like before, how the office is much more orderly, things work better, and how Russian women suck as bosses and are catty & can't manage. Basically they just sit in the office gossiping about employees instead of doing work and figuring things out.

I was like..."you're very mature for someone your age...tell me more"....

Later on she said she was on her period, was really sorry about that but really wanted to have sex with me and can't wait til we can!

Would any of that ever happen in the US???

Yeah, I love EE girls too!

Post: #286

Regarding the cell phone operator question, I have used Beeline before and was pretty happy with them. For me internet use is the most important service. They have an "Unlimited internet" package that gives you 3000 MB of roaming-free (roaming-free with some exceptions, those exceptions are mostly for eastern regions - Irkutsk and beyond) high speed internet for 50 rubles. Which meant I could travel a lot, visiting cities like Barnaul and Novosibirsk using the same simcard and without exploding internet costs.

A downside of using them I found is poor coverage compared to Megafon and MTS in some rural areas. Note that SMS and calls are not roam-free so a girl *may* be reluctant to call or text you if she sees your number is from a different region.

Details about the "Unlimited internet" deal here:
http://mobile.beeline.ru/spb/mobinternet...b5cceb&t=s

Post: #287

Last night was nothing exciting, did a double with the girl I banged and her Brazilian looking friend. Made them "American dinner" as bait to come over (hamburgers), played card games and drank. Made a pitstop at a karaoke bar, came back here and Brazilian wouldn't do anything with my buddy. Funny enough, again my girl waited until the Brazilian went to bed, came and boned me, then said she had to go back and sleep in that bed. I'm guessing she doesn't want her friend to know.

Now the best part of the night? We are just playing cards, drinking, etc. and they start showing me pictures of their summer camp. GUESS WHAT I SEE...



I swear it looked like the guy from the meme. I tried to take better pics but didn't work. They had a few pictures of themselves with this Indian guy, hugging him, posing with him, in love with him. Attention IRT, this is your place! Come to Siberia, apparently you will be loved.

In other news, the blonde from the club on Tuesday night never responded back to my texts, oh well. We are set to meet up with the tier 1 girls from last week tonight, so we'll see how that goes. We are meeting them at a club though, and they are attention whores, but the communication lines are open.

I may try to post up some stats at the end of the Tomsk portion. Numbers collected, leads, dates, bangs, etc. Tentative is to leave on Tuesday for Moscow.

Post: #288

^^^^ your Colombian looking friend should say hes Indian then.

Post: #289

Live feed...

Post: #290

Well...I was played bigtime last night. Should I have seen it coming? Probably, but I didn't and now lesson learned. My last two nights have had the biggest ups and downs in terms of going from "I'm going to bang" to "I can't believe that bitch." Long post warning.

Two nights ago, my buddy gets a text from the tier 1 girl he met last week at the wet tshirt contest. She is undoubtedly top level quality, the type you are noticed with when you go somewhere with. We go out, she brings her other hot friend that we met last time too, and we are all drinking and hanging out with each other. We get a bottle of vodka, super cheap, end up spending about $50 total for several hours.

Her friend is not feeling me that much (she has tattoos, rocker girl) and I am about as far from that as you can get. She ends up meeting up with some other guys of the same type. My buddy, his girl and me end up going to another club. My buddy and her are now making out, dancing, etc. All is good. She runs into some other friends, and I hit it off with this cute 18 year old. Now we are all drinking, dancing, having fun together.

Unfortunately the girls start ordering shots and that just got me. I had this 18yo all over me, and I was too drunk to do anything. So I go to the bathroom and vomit, come back and things are a bit better now. We leave the club, and this place has the worst built in cockblock I've ever seen - a cafe attached to the exit that is always open. The girls want breakfast, I keep saying no let's go, and the 18yo says we eat then we all go back to her house. Fine.

We sit down, eat, I excuse myself to go vomit again to try and sober up. Eventually they finish, stick me with the bill even though I didn't order anything, but it was $20 so I just paid it not wanting to lose momentum or get into an argument given the decision to go back to her house. We get up and start walking to her place. My buddy says let's just take a cab, not wanting to have the girls sober up, or delay in getting back to their place. The 18yo says there are too many of us for one cab, I say let's take two cabs. Somehow, someway, another guy jumps in the cab with them, and my buddy and I end up in another cab, just us. I thought we had agreed to party back at our place, apparently not. We end up home alone. We try texting/calling them, no answer.

I was very disappointed, I thought I was in. My buddy's girl was all over him, this 18yo was all over me, they wanted to go back to their place or ours...it was set. Nope. That hurt.

So then last night, my buddy texts his girl and no response. Another girl he's gone out with is apparently a stripper, and invites us to go see her strip. We get dressed, and a random number calls my buddy and in horrible English says come to so and so bar. We have no idea who it is. We text the number back and say address? And another number sends us the address.

Considering how many numbers my buddy has gotten, it is a total shot in the dark. His girl from the previous night never responded, he had just gone a date with a girl who said she had a boyfriend but may later come out and meet with us, etc. So strip club or surprise? We decide to go see who it is and if it sucks, then go to the strip club.

We go, and lo and behold it's the girls from the previous night. My 18yo looks even better than before, and is absolutely elated to see me. I mean it was like I just came back from war. Conversely, my buddy's girl is super cold. Regardless, they hand us a glass of champagne upon arrival, and the 18yo grabs my hand and puts it all over her as she grinds upon me.

The bar is attached to one of the best clubs in Tomsk, and the girls either know the bouncer or convince him to let us just walk in without paying. We go in there, and the tattooed girl is a dancer there, amazing body. At the club now, the 18yo again is all over me. Taking hundreds of photos of us, grinding on me, forcing my hand all over her stomach, ass, thighs. And still, my buddy's girls is kind of cold, though she tells him explicitly I like you. We both agree that 1) there is something really odd about why his girl was in such a foul mood, and 2) why the 18yo was so madly in love with me. I mean, it was to the point where I was trying to drink less to make sure I don't get whiskey dick, and considering if I could drag her into the bathroom to fuck her. That's how much she was into me.

So the 18yo asks if she can order rounds of drinks for everyone, and we agree. In my eyes, she was all over me, so alcohol can only help. In my buddy's eyes, he wanted to get some liquor in his girl so she would get out of the funk. All this time they had another friend with them, who was drinking with us too. And later, another blonde came that kept crying, more on her later.

Randomly, this blonde I met a few nights ago that was also into me, was there. But she never responded to my texts after that night, so I didn't even acknowledge her. She kept glancing over at me with this girl attached to my body. Had I known what was coming, I would have ditched the 18yo and gone to the blonde.

We keep drinking, she's telling me she wants me to cook for her (my buddy always says I'm a professional chef to get the girls to come back to our place, so he told her that last night). Everything is going so well, a little too well I sadly find out later. Some warning signs I saw but ignored/rationalized:

1. She had an Iphone 5
2. She had a Chanel purse
3. She kept texting someone the whole night
4. Never offered to pay for anything, including the breakfast from the previous night.

My buddy's girl is still cold, so I tell him to pull the jealousy move. Almost like clockwork, as soon as he starts talking to another girl his girl comes over and warms up. So funny how this jealousy thing works so well in the FSU.

We decide to go to another club, now 6 of us (4 girls, us 2). We split into 2 girls and 1 guy in each cab this time, given what happened the night before. Get to the other club, order a round of drinks, and then it starts getting odd. The girls keep leaving and coming back, and eventually I see they take their purses this time. Fuck.

I tell my buddy to stay there, I will go see what they are doing. I walk towards the exit and see the 18yo, pretty damn trashed, holding on arm to arm with some Siberian guy. What...the...fuck? She sees me and completely ignores me, as if I don't exist. They exit, so I exit and the girls are all yelling at each other, the guys are yelling at the girls, I have no idea what is going on. I sit down next to the crying blonde, and ask her what is happening. She says she has no idea. I make eye contact with the 18yo, waive at her and shrug my shoulders, she again pretends she has no idea who I am. At this point, the 18yo is trying to shove all the girls into this dude's car, and none of them want to go except her. My buddy's girl keeps yelling "Nyet! Nyet!" and this 18yo is so insistent and eventually gets all of them in there, except the crying blonde. And they leave.

I ask the crying blonde if all Russian girls are this evil, she laughs and says no, just her. And that the 18yo is young and drunk and she doesn't even know these girls that well, only met them one time before.

Now I'm sitting on the bench outside with the crying blonde, more shocked and disappointed than anything else. She is a wreck, I'm trying to find out why she's been crying the whole night but she can't translate into telling me. I do find out she's from St. Pete and just here for a few days and going home tomorrow. As I'm consoling her we actually kiss for a slight second, she wants to go home but I convince her to come back inside with me. We go inside, she hangs out for a bit but eventually leaves.

Start talking to some other girls, one is a group of three girls that my buddy opens. One of them asks my buddy to buy champagne for them, and of course we say absolutely not. Nonetheless they are still talking, so I go hit on one of the other one's, decently cute. We start hitting it off, dancing, etc. The third friend is a chubster and she keeps trying to interrupt both her friends' conversations with us to get some time in, pretty funny.

Then, the girl I'm with has some guy talking to her for a while, so I ask her if that's her boyfriend. She says no, just a friend. Of course, this friend now has his hand on her exposed thigh. These lying Russian girls, I swear. Later the guy leaves, she's now back into me and I get her number and my buddy and I leave. Had a few more receptive approaches post the 18yo scam and before we left, but nothing that promising.

So I guess I was completely had by this cute little 18yo, orchestrating an entire night so my buddy and I can fund their night out. Could it have been that she randomly ran into an ex or something, was drunk and didn't want to acknowledge me so as to not piss off this random guy? Sure, it's possible. But given how the night went down in retrospect, I doubt it.

Knowing that my buddy's girl was into him, the last thing I thought was some scheme was going on. Looking back though, it makes sense. She never offered to pay for anything, she was wayyyy too into me, the person she kept texting was this guy, she wanted to go to another club likely because he was there. And it may explain why my buddy's girl was in such a bad mood, she knew about the plan and genuinely liked my buddy and didn't want this to happen. It also explains why she was so adamant about not leaving with the 18yo at the end of the night.

I don't even care about the money (probably $250 total between both of us), I'm just upset at myself for not being smarter about it. I was blinded by a girl just being so into me. I'm not going to let one experience taint my views on Russia, but I never had a Ukrainian girl go to such lengths to orchestrate something like this. Well, lesson learned - I tend to pride myself on being smarter than falling for shit like this, but a combination of the comfort from my buddy's girl being there so this was not a completely random girl, and her intense apparent love of me skewed my judgment.

Post: #291

Russia/FSU seems like the place where the following infantryman's motto applies:

"If your attack is going too well, you're walking into an ambush."

Post: #292

Quote:I was blinded by a girl just being so into me.

We've all been there.

Post: #293

• Always assume that girls are out there to get money from you.
• In Soviet Russia, devochkas hunt you!
  

As someone mentioned in another thread, these girls are experienced with foreigners dropping by. They will hunt you so you can fund their nights out.

Post: #294

Some points:
A. Most fsu girls , especially province girls will not offer to pay. That's a mans job. Your few experiences where they chipped in has clouded you a bit. Heck even fsu immigrants in NYC making six figures won't pay. In a capital city things will be a bit different.
B. Guy touching girls thigh means nothing. Haven't you admitted to being an octopus? Guys go caveman even if they are social circle friends. Also remember they take fuckbuddies from social circle. So technically he wasn't a boyfriend.
C. You interpretation of the scheme might be correct. But this isn't un common. After all what else is a guy good for?doozy covers the extraction process in bang Ukraine. You probably right buddies girl felt bad.
D. Forget c and realize other crazy possibilitesxexist. For example the guy screaming at them maybe was there pimp?in fsu any crazy scenario is possible.
E. Stop drinking so much. Maybe you missed something? Clue in the background like the crying game. (besides the way you drink you will age alot at one point lol).
F. Did you take a pic of the crying girl?that's insane

All in all great story,sorry about ending.

Post: #295

Hey slubu, here's a little Russian lesson for you. What those chicks did to you is called dynamo in Russian (динамо, pronounced dee-nA-mo). Basically it's when a girl takes you for a ride, makes you pay for her and then doesn't fuck. The verb is динамить (dee-nA-mit). The girl who does it is динамщица (dee-nAm-shit-sa), a dynamo girl.

Next time you bump into these chicks or anybody else who tries to take you for a ride like that, you can say something like this:

Иди на хуй, динамщица (ee-di nA hui, dee-nAm-shit-sa). It means "Fuck off, dynamo girl".

Post: #296

(08-03-2013 05:18 AM)Pacesetter20 Wrote:  [...]
"If your attack is going too well, you're walking into an ambush."

Post: #297

slubu, thanks for the honest posting - even if it stings you are a real champ for sharing. Based on your previous success on this trip, I am sure you will be knee deep in vagina soon enough.

Post: #298

(08-03-2013 01:51 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  Hey slubu, here's a little Russian lesson for you. What those chicks did to you is called dynamo in Russian (динамо, pronounced dee-nA-mo). Basically it's when a girl takes you for a ride, makes you pay for her and then doesn't fuck. The verb is динамить (dee-nA-mit). The girl who does it is динамщица (dee-nAm-shit-sa), a dynamo girl.

Next time you bump into these chicks or anybody else who tries to take you for a ride like that, you can say something like this:

Иди на хуй, динамщица (ee-di nA hui, dee-nAm-shit-sa). It means "Fuck off, dynamo girl".

It's not hard to construct your game in a way to minimize this behavior.

-Don't date via the internet
-Don't do meets-ups with her friend(s) in clubs before banging
-Don't do first dates in expensive restaurants

If you find yourself paying for her friends, in the hope to create a positive impression on the girl you want to bang, you're in the danger zone. My friend got burned bad because of that this week.

Post: #299

^^^Slubu's wing-man/double date game puts him at risk. They tend to back each other up and approach groups of women above a 2 set. If he was alone at least he could try isolate the chick but since its a group thing he and his buddy(why not give us a make up name for that dude already?) are on the hook for the whole group. Roosh since you game alone you avoid the risk of buying drinks for everyone,etc. But his advantage is that a group of girls are more brave to go back to his flat and that has gotten him the bang, while if I remember you were forced to go on dates(less SNL), But maybe Ukraine round 2 has been different for you? you are keeping us in suspense!
But reviewing his story it seems those girls might been trying to get them drunk.Also maybe its the cop in me but I think CRYing girl is somewhat key to what is going on, that's abnormal behavior.
Roosh when are you going to tell us your stories? is it going to be bang UA 2? Slubu has confirmed the Russians drink more than Ukrainians!

Post: #300

Back from another night. This place is scam central. I can't recommend Tomsk, I've never seen shadiness in such high levels in my life. At least in Novosibirsk as horrible, ugly and boring of a town it was, the girls were genuinely interested in us. Here, we are just novelties for their pleasure. Tonight was a different version of the night before, instead of involving money it was basically the opportunity cost of having a Saturday night out trying to hit on different girls.

Too tired to do the whole story, I'll do it after some sleep. Shady, shady bitches here in Tomsk. These girls deserve fucking oscars.