Post: #26

Is she shorter than you? Smaller?

Her: You're so short
You: Said the midget to the giant. *smirk*

I'm 5'7 and I've only noticed that really short girls, and girls taller then me bring this up. It has disappeared as my confidence and game have gone up. If she is constantly teasing you there is a 99.9% chance she wants that D. It's a classic case of a girl trying to play a dudes game. Plus, even if the bitch is trying to torment you she won't stop until she RESPECTS you as a man. Think of a group of male friends and you have that one dude you all pick on, want to know why? Cause he reacts to the dumb jokes, never says anything funny back, and no one respects him.

Post: #27

No offense but you sound lame for being scared to open your mouth. Tel her to shut the fuck up if her comments are getting to you or pm me a picture if you want to make her cry.

Post: #28

(03-08-2013 12:07 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  @Deepdiver Would you mind expanding on your photo game experiences? Would love to hear them. Sounds like a great idea.

Seconded.

Post: #29

(03-08-2013 02:17 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  One side note: you really need to improve you "insult" skills. Usually anyone good at verbal game will be good at on-the-spot comebacks. Improvisational insults are a close relative of game. I would have torn this girl to pieces, in person, without losing so much as a crumb of social capital. In fact, I would have gained some, by making everyone (maybe even her) laugh their asses off at her expense. Learn that.

How, Where?

Post: #30

My contribution:


'Haha you're short!'

'Yeah I'm short, does that bother you?'

Post: #31

(03-08-2013 12:07 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  @Deepdiver Would you mind expanding on your photo game experiences? Would love to hear them. Sounds like a great idea.

@V-Alpha...

OK - A little background...

LOL - I worked in downtown Boston and then the Longwood Harvard Med School Area for years and have a Sicilian last name had some heavy duty "clients" on the big dig and so always enjoyed the Boston after hours scene and am still surprised at how subtle and effective wise guy game (WG2) can be on the dark side after hours. I never mention it it just happens - I have that Sopranos look - it is a mixed blessing.

Boston with 300,000+ uni students from around the world and post WWII baby boomer demographic numbers off the BU etc schools started marketing themselves to the world's wealthy elites. The mega powerful elite get into Harvard, the mega smart into MIT and all the ultra rich go to BU some to Tufts, Northeastern and or the liberal arts colleges like Emerson that Jay Leno went to.

There are 3 little known facts about Boston, 1. The freedom trail gets more foot traffic each year than Disney World. 2. Every wealthy family on the planet eventually has a son or daughter that goes to school in Boston - clubs all close at 2AM so conducive to studying and not partying all night till sun light like Miami - also a fair after hours scene for private parties. 3. Mutual Funds were invented and born in Boston. The 400+ Mutual funds, new PE funds, Hedge Funds, custodial firms manage well over $2 Trillion+ in global assets and provide custodial services for another $10 Trillion+ in global assets - believe it or not the USA is actually one of the largest tax havens for Non USAians.

A friend who runs his families $100M industrial park biz made some serious cash trading - over $5M and used me as a tech resource and enjoyed the aura of my WG2 to keep the hyenas and jackals away. Honestly he was a bit of a tool but asked permission to be in my orbit as I am an independent lone operator and he always showed me respect and had the respect of my circle since he religiously picked up tabs and left $1,500 tips at the end of the night that the staff in the top clubs would fight for.

One of the elite top club promoters in Boston and NYC always kept a table for us next to his and it was amazing to see the action that would circulate on fame nights when Rod Stuart, Limp Bizcuit crew etc etc would unwind nearby after a new Boston Garden concert. The girls in our orbit learned that they were the only ones who could get through the real vip zones. We never had a list - finally had to shut it down when it turned into a freak show and one of the orbiters was using nose candy as door whore bait. Was approached by at least a half dozen under covers and I know too many people in prison over nose candy etc so was never my game - a cigar and a good scotch or cognac chaser, great martinis and snowflake bait champagne all clean and legal.

He would keep the girls martinis and Veuve Clicquot in supply as long as they were bird dogging and herding the 8's 9's and 10's our way without being too obvious. No Dom or Crystal mind you - real wealth tends to buy what tastes best and avoids the over hyped Dom, Crystal and Krugg - never paid more than $80 a bottle club price and one or two bottles were more than adequate to reward the snowflake bird dogs when they were doing their jobs properly.

So wealth attracts beauty and great beauty is attracted to great wealth - a cardinal rule - so if you do not have great wealth become a vehicle for introductions into those circles days, nights, or after hours...

Which segues into the topic at hand - I ran into a photog working the nightlife after hours scene - had his own nearby studio with great logisitcs and a wet bar fridge and a few hidden bed "props" in an extra set room. He and had two cards - one for his legit day trade in high tech products huge bio-medical tech industry in Metro Boston slogan was "Great Products deserve Great Photography". And then another for the glam trade - yeah he was a master at culling the herd and bringing the 8's through 10's to his studio - an occasional seven if they were enthusiastic snowflakes... Most of these 7 though 10's have never bothered picking up a camera and are putty in the hands of anyone who learns good photog game as they are about the only men the prime snowflakes will take direction from as it is their meal ticket.

He would insinuate himself into our orbit - cheap bastard though never bought a round so was always on the outside - but even though he was tighter than the bark on trees he always had some super freaks and 9's or 10's with him and he was barely a 6. Hey I am only a 6.5+/- but real WG2 and elite military experience gives me an edge even to this day as recent as last Saturday night but that's another story.

Well I was at an after party at his studio one night and learned his after hours game - looked at his industrial vs glam setups and gear and watched a few after hours glam shoots - would get fairly sensual I have to say. I noticed there were always one or two prime feminine floaters that would linger when all the guests were gone working him for a special portfolio. So I read a few books, bought some gear and developed my own Photog Game - with good lighting and good direction getting the ladies to pose and filtering the locals who I would just give a DVD to for $1 and some time as long as they agreed to bird dog new talent I always have new talent in orbit and screen for the potentially hostile cockblockers - bf's bros dads - and if not local - most in the city are not and if they are tend to stay in their hoods - I run game on the ones who best follow direction and keep me happy - and always let them know there are new ones in my orbit so they will stay as long as they have not passed their sell by date - by then I sell their contracts off to some bigger better adventure/agency out of state and they are happy with their new shiny objects and I keep fresh flow that pays for itself.

This Photog Game is repeatable in any country - I have become expert with web content frame works - its is incredibly easy to set up a world class Photo Gallery site with pre-designed Word Press gallery packages on GoDaddy or Host Gator and you can market their images which YOU own as your intellectual property and the snowflakes only have a license to your images of them via release and you sell their portfolio and promo contracts to large media/agencies with a Virtual Assistant doing the sales (one of the lesser snowflakes in your orbit who wants to learn the biz as an intern in exchange for experience and a decent reference. Buy a book on Amazon for Photog biz process - need photography releases for all models with understanding that you will promote on your virtual galleries, 2 year licenses right for snowflakes to use your creative work - at which point they have to buy and or earn new images or stop using you intellectual property. Promotional agreement contracts where you own the exclusive rights to them for 3 years and then flip their contracts etc - they will all flake and age so best to flip them for top dollar sooner than later. If you want to do soft porn, mommy porn or hard core you must learn the laws have special "porn releases" and have absolute time date stamped proof that you scanned their photographic IDs prior to any shoots (passports best) that prove they are over 18 and ID evidence a good idea for all your releases as a Child porn rap will put you out of biz and in the pen quicker than you can say WTF?

Try not to notch them all - be disciplined and only notch the ones who go out of their way to please you even after your worst neg game on and tough direction on them. The ones who give you any attitude just flip their contracts as they are probably substance abusers anyway. The best 8's 9's 10's never diss their photogs/promoters/producers as they know they are their bread and butter meal tickets - sort of why a fighter pilot never pisses off a great crew chief - his life depends on it.

Keep the lesser snowflakes bird dogging for you or working as your virtual assistants selling/flipping the prime snowflakes contracts and they will worship you when you ignore their advances to drop their panties for you. Treat it like a biz and and only skim the cream for yourself - or better yet offer your prime surplus to other wealthy older alphas willing to pay you for access to your "portfolio" of young healthy hot hard bodies - yes a very discreet ultra high end hook up service. You can have one of your VA's run a discreet Airbnb reservations concierge service and provide the surplus snowflakes discreet rendezvous with the wealthy older alphas willing to pay mega money for prime talent, security and discretion. Suburban prime snowflakes will often jump at a chance to hookup with a wealthy alpha for a weekend in the city knowing full well she is a consenting adult meeting another consenting adult - look into the escort services releases legal disclaimers and use them discreetly with the snowflakes so no false rape or conspiracy charges can be lobbed at you. Keep everyone in your orbit on NDA and do not break the local laws. Operate more like a high end intro service that charges $10K to $100k a pop for a package of intros and not a sleazy escort service - wealthy older alphas are people who are used to paying for exclusive discrete intros and nothing else. Always have an NDA with release intro disclaimer signed by the snowflakes always get a scan photo copy of their passport to prove their age to protect you and your clients from any false charges after the fact.

Have a calling card with your pseudonym (Nom de Guerre or Nom de Plume) "Producer" and your pseudonomic Gmail and that is it... less is more in Photog Game as success is secrecy and secrecy is success - never clue any one into your game and keep what I have shared secret and you will always have a steady flow of 8's 9's 10's working to be your wing women and bird dogs anywhere on planet earth as great Pictures and great Video are the key to the fame life every hypergamistic snowflake craves in her deep subconscious emotional mind.

So put evolution to work for you rather than against you.

Mini data sheet over... I am working on an exclusive new media project for ultra high end willing and enthusiastic marks in Boston, NYC, Moscow, Miami and perhaps Vegas and LA - for wealthy men and women who want to watch the show but not be the show and have access to the most desirable snowflakes - will be working on a crowd funding campaign if anyone interested in getting into the orbit PM me and if I like your style I will send an NDA and links when I am ready over the next few months.

Will be exclusive private events parties for networking in Boston, NYC Miami and Moscow for my mega marks and those kool with discrete game.

I did my time in the military - I am in my avatar photo - so only kool chill people who want to up their game - no brawlers, nose candy or drugs fiends - just kool in control people looking for the best they can be and enjoy this life.

Mods feel free to move to a new Photog Game Data Sheet - no intention to jack Fredsters thread - was at V-Alphas request and @Fredster and anyone can keep a fresh flow of 8-9-10's with decent Photog Game - so just next the damned besatch DB hater on his height. A DB like this can only lower your social value it YOU let her. Read and implement this mini data sheet even part time when you feel like it and you will have the highest possible social value from now on as illustrated in word picture format above. 8-9-10's will literally beg for portfolios/promotion/production as they try to break into the selling their image game and the more you blow them off as you don't have enough time to take on new snowflake princess fame game wannebees the harder they will come at you. A hot portfolio and web site gallery promotion done well enough to rate on Google or Bing would cost them at least $10K+ so you are doing them a major favor - keep that in mind - you are the key to their Fame Game hypergamistic future NOT the other way around - your looks and height DO NOT matter - only your skillz and game do. No whining No excuses GAME ON!

Post: #32

Her-You're so short Fredster!

You-Quit hitting on me.

/drops mic

Post: #33

(03-08-2013 02:22 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 12:07 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  @Deepdiver Would you mind expanding on your photo game experiences? Would love to hear them. Sounds like a great idea.

@V-Alpha...

OK - A little background...

LOL - I worked in downtown Boston and then the Longwood Harvard Med School Area for years and have a Sicilian last name had some heavy duty "clients" on the big dig and so always enjoyed the Boston after hours scene and am still surprised at how subtle and effective wise guy game (WG2) can be on the dark side after hours. I never mention it it just happens - I have that Sopranos look - it is a mixed blessing.

Boston with 300,000+ uni students from around the world and post WWII baby boomer demographic numbers off the BU etc schools started marketing themselves to the world's wealthy elites. The mega powerful elite get into Harvard, the mega smart into MIT and all the ultra rich go to BU some to Tufts, Northeastern and or the liberal arts colleges like Emerson that Jay Leno went to.

There are 3 little known facts about Boston, 1. The freedom trail gets more foot traffic each year than Disney World. 2. Every wealthy family on the planet eventually has a son or daughter that goes to school in Boston - clubs all close at 2AM so conducive to studying and not partying all night till sun light like Miami - also a fair after hours scene for private parties. 3. Mutual Funds were invented and born in Boston. The 400+ Mutual funds, new PE funds, Hedge Funds, custodial firms manage well over $2 Trillion+ in global assets and provide custodial services for another $10 Trillion+ in global assets - believe it or not the USA is actually one of the largest tax havens for Non USAians.

A friend who runs his families $100M industrial park biz made some serious cash trading - over $5M and used me as a tech resource and enjoyed the aura of my WG2 to keep the hyenas and jackals away. Honestly he was a bit of a tool but asked permission to be in my orbit as I am an independent lone operator and he always showed me respect and had the respect of my circle since he religiously picked up tabs and left $1,500 tips at the end of the night that the staff in the top clubs would fight for.

One of the elite top club promoters in Boston and NYC always kept a table for us next to his and it was amazing to see the action that would circulate on fame nights when Rod Stuart, Limp Bizcuit crew etc etc would unwind nearby after a new Boston Garden concert. The girls in our orbit learned that they were the only ones who could get through the real vip zones. We never had a list - finally had to shut it down when it turned into a freak show and one of the orbiters was using nose candy as door whore bait. Was approached by at least a half dozen under covers and I know too many people in prison over nose candy etc so was never my game - a cigar and a good scotch or cognac chaser, great martinis and snowflake bait champagne all clean and legal.

He would keep the girls martinis and Veuve Clicquot in supply as long as they were bird dogging and herding the 8's 9's and 10's our way without being too obvious. No Dom or Crystal mind you - real wealth tends to buy what tastes best and avoids the over hyped Dom, Crystal and Krugg - never paid more than $80 a bottle club price and one or two bottles were more than adequate to reward the snowflake bird dogs when they were doing their jobs properly.

So wealth attracts beauty and great beauty is attracted to great wealth - a cardinal rule - so if you do not have great wealth become a vehicle for introductions into those circles days, nights, or after hours...

Which segues into the topic at hand - I ran into a photog working the nightlife after hours scene - had his own nearby studio with great logisitcs and a wet bar fridge and a few hidden bed "props" in an extra set room. He and had two cards - one for his legit day trade in high tech products huge bio-medical tech industry in Metro Boston slogan was "Great Products deserve Great Photography". And then another for the glam trade - yeah he was a master at culling the herd and bringing the 8's through 10's to his studio - an occasional seven if they were enthusiastic snowflakes... Most of these 7 though 10's have never bothered picking up a camera and are putty in the hands of anyone who learns good photog game as they are about the only men the prime snowflakes will take direction from as it is their meal ticket.

He would insinuate himself into our orbit - cheap bastard though never bought a round so was always on the outside - but even though he was tighter than the bark on trees he always had some super freaks and 9's or 10's with him and he was barely a 6. Hey I am only a 6.5+/- but real WG2 and elite military experience gives me an edge even to this day as recent as last Saturday night but that's another story.

Well I was at an after party at his studio one night and learned his after hours game - looked at his industrial vs glam setups and gear and watched a few after hours glam shoots - would get fairly sensual I have to say. I noticed there were always one or two prime feminine floaters that would linger when all the guests were gone working him for a special portfolio. So I read a few books, bought some gear and developed my own Photog Game - with good lighting and good direction getting the ladies to pose and filtering the locals who I would just give a DVD to for $1 and some time as long as they agreed to bird dog new talent I always have new talent in orbit and screen for the potentially hostile cockblockers - bf's bros dads - and if not local - most in the city are not and if they are tend to stay in their hoods - I run game on the ones who best follow direction and keep me happy - and always let them know there are new ones in my orbit so they will stay as long as they have not passed their sell by date - by then I sell their contracts off to some bigger better adventure/agency out of state and they are happy with their new shiny objects and I keep fresh flow that pays for itself.

This Photog Game is repeatable in any country - I have become expert with web content frame works - its is incredibly easy to set up a world class Photo Gallery site with pre-designed Word Press gallery packages on GoDaddy or Host Gator and you can market their images which YOU own as your intellectual property and the snowflakes only have a license to your images of them via release and you sell their portfolio and promo contracts to large media/agencies with a Virtual Assistant doing the sales (one of the lesser snowflakes in your orbit who wants to learn the biz as an intern in exchange for experience and a decent reference. Buy a book on Amazon for Photog biz process - need photography releases for all models with understanding that you will promote on your virtual galleries, 2 year licenses right for snowflakes to use your creative work - at which point they have to buy and or earn new images or stop using you intellectual property. Promotional agreement contracts where you own the exclusive rights to them for 3 years and then flip their contracts etc - they will all flake and age so best to flip them for top dollar sooner than later. If you want to do soft porn, mommy porn or hard core you must learn the laws have special "porn releases" and have absolute time date stamped proof that you scanned their photographic IDs prior to any shoots (passports best) that prove they are over 18 and ID evidence a good idea for all your releases as a Child porn rap will put you out of biz and in the pen quicker than you can say WTF?

Try not to notch them all - be disciplined and only notch the ones who go out of their way to please you even after your worst neg game on and tough direction on them. The ones who give you any attitude just flip their contracts as they are probably substance abusers anyway. The best 8's 9's 10's never diss their photogs/promoters/producers as they know they are their bread and butter meal tickets - sort of why a fighter pilot never pisses off a great crew chief - his life depends on it.

Keep the lesser snowflakes bird dogging for you or working as your virtual assistants selling/flipping the prime snowflakes contracts and they will worship you when you ignore their advances to drop their panties for you. Treat it like a biz and and only skim the cream for yourself - or better yet offer your prime surplus to other wealthy older alphas willing to pay you for access to your "portfolio" of young healthy hot hard bodies - yes a very discreet ultra high end hook up service. You can have one of your VA's run a discreet Airbnb reservations concierge service and provide the surplus snowflakes discreet rendezvous with the wealthy older alphas willing to pay mega money for prime talent, security and discretion. Suburban prime snowflakes will often jump at a chance to hookup with a wealthy alpha for a weekend in the city knowing full well she is a consenting adult meeting another consenting adult - look into the escort services releases legal disclaimers and use them discreetly with the snowflakes so no false rape or conspiracy charges can be lobbed at you. Keep everyone in your orbit on NDA and do not break the local laws. Operate more like a high end intro service that charges $10K to $100k a pop for a package of intros and not a sleazy escort service - wealthy older alphas are people who are used to paying for exclusive discrete intros and nothing else. Always have an NDA with release intro disclaimer signed by the snowflakes always get a scan photo copy of their passport to prove their age to protect you and your clients from any false charges after the fact.

Have a calling card with your pseudonym (Nom de Guerre or Nom de Plume) "Producer" and your pseudonomic Gmail and that is it... less is more in Photog Game as success is secrecy and secrecy is success - never clue any one into your game and keep what I have shared secret and you will always have a steady flow of 8's 9's 10's working to be your wing women and bird dogs anywhere on planet earth as great Pictures and great Video are the key to the fame life every hypergamistic snowflake craves in her deep subconscious emotional mind.

So put evolution to work for you rather than against you.

Mini data sheet over... I am working on an exclusive new media project for ultra high end willing and enthusiastic marks in Boston, NYC, Moscow, Miami and perhaps Vegas and LA - for wealthy men and women who want to watch the show but not be the show and have access to the most desirable snowflakes - will be working on a crowd funding campaign if anyone interested in getting into the orbit PM me and if I like your style I will send an NDA and links when I am ready over the next few months.

Will be exclusive private events parties for networking in Boston, NYC Miami and Moscow for my mega marks and those kool with discrete game.

I did my time in the military - I am in my avatar photo - so only kool chill people who want to up their game - no brawlers, nose candy or drugs fiends - just kool in control people looking for the best they can be and enjoy this life.

Mods feel free to move to a new Photog Game Data Sheet - no intention to jack Fredsters thread - was at V-Alphas request and @Fredster and anyone can keep a fresh flow of 8-9-10's with decent Photog Game - so just next the damned besatch DB hater on his height. A DB like this can only lower your social value it YOU let her. Read and implement this mini data sheet even part time when you feel like it and you will have the highest possible social value from now on as illustrated in word picture format above. 8-9-10's will literally beg for portfolios/promotion/production as they try to break into the selling their image game and the more you blow them off as you don't have enough time to take on new snowflake princess fame game wannebees the harder they will come at you. A hot portfolio and web site gallery promotion done well enough to rate on Google or Bing would cost them at least $10K+ so you are doing them a major favor - keep that in mind - you are the key to their Fame Game hypergamistic future NOT the other way around - your looks and height DO NOT matter - only your skillz and game do. No whining No excuses GAME ON!

That is an excellent breakdown,much more in depth then I was expecting. Thank you for sharing.

Hopefully this will get moved to it's own thread so we can ask some questions about it.

Post: #34

instead of insults or negs learn REFRAMING and use it constantly. basically you can misinterpret everything someone says about you whether it's a compliment or an insult. For example if she mocks your height tell her.. ah you're such a flirt / ok we already know you like me / sorry you're not my type / don't worry you're too high for me / etc, and after you say your line immediately turn to group and continue talking to the them. Don't wait for her response. Throw your punchline and cut her off.

She might come back with some shit like you must be crazy if you think i was hitting on you or something similar which you reframe again with that's fine I'm too crazy for you anyway but nice try and cut her off again just like before. Do that again and again and she will be helpless.

Get the drift? Examples I gave are not too mean/nice. Reframing is vicious cause person insulting/negging you has no idea how you will interpret their comment. It completely throws people off their balance cause they don't expect it such a response.

Post: #35

You could grab her by her shirt or hips and kiss her. I think she likes you.

Post: #36

"I had a childhood illness and the medication they put me on to keep me alive knocked a few inches off my height. After you're done with me, why don't you go to the hospital and tease those little bald kids?"

This is actually the truth for me, but I'll allow you to use it as a lie if it suits your needs.

Post: #37

Does anyone else make fun of your height? I had a kid in my social circle the same height as you, but everyone ripped on him for being a manlet. If she's the only one doing it, there's a good chance she wants your cockmeat. Next time she does it say something like "Mom told me that when girls are mean it's because they like me. [look at boyfriend] Hey man, you might want to watch out, it looks like her eyes are straying."

That should be enough to get her to stop. One thing girls in a social circle hate is the thought of an "untouchable" being into them. If she does it again just say "Still got that crush on me I see."

Post: #38

Next time she brings it up, interrupt everything and say:

"LISTEN EVERYBODY, Laura over here seems to have some issues about my height. Does anyone else around here has a problem with my height as LAURA does?

NO?"

Bring the focus on her, put her on the spotlight. Show everyone that you give a shit about your own height so she is being a dick about it, so let everyone know how much of a dick she is. SHAME HER.

If she does it again, then you do it again. Lets see who has the bigger balls, and whos bothered more about being the center of attention.

Post: #39

I'm 5'6 and I've dated taller girls before.

You can be playful about it, shame her socially (as others have suggested), or pretend she hasn't said anything. Girls don't like being ignored, so they will amp it up to test you, but then usually drop it when they see it won't get them anywhere and you obviously don't like it but don't care enough to stop her.

Post: #40

She is 5'7-5'8. Everyone has made fun of my height, the women more than the men. I could tell the men were joking around, and they have brought be beers, so I know they are not harsh, but the chicks are kinda harsh, but even they stopped eventually after I stopped giving them attention. fun of my height, I am the shortest one in the group BTW.

These comebacks are so f**king golden it is not even funny( and they are funny). I was afraid to make this thread as I though i was going to get flamed for asking about how to come out the alpha if a chick is teasing me about my height.

I'm going to practice all of these in the mirror, then write down potential responses she could use, and work out a come back to that. I wanna be like Sean Connery and f**k up entitled women, haha.

This will be good practice for me as it will help me in field. I'll use these comebacks, ride out the storm and then ditch these betas.

I live in a very Marxist-feminist country( Melbourne, Australia) and I found that guys how have success call out the self-entitled chicks. This is a skill I need to work on. I was considering doing improve classes. What do you guys think ?

I was also thinking about calling them superficial by saying some thing like :
" Well you must not place value on height because that makes you superficial, and height is fixed. But for example, if a guy said he did not want fatties, you can change that by working out at the gym Its not superficial to go for a quality in a man that can be changed" <--- Think this is good incase she gets super pissed off ?

Post: #41

The important thing is not to get all wordy and sound bitter.

"Better short than fat" suffices much better than some coffee house bullshit on human sociology.

And hang around your younger cousins, especially if any of them are preteen girls, they'll give you good practice on how to deflate somebody's ego.

This isn't some set in stone 100 page script, it's a game of mindfuck. The person with the least shame and insecurity wins.

Post: #42

(03-08-2013 03:47 AM)Fredster Wrote:  I should not be with these beta friends of mine.

That's really all there is too it. But here's what's especially shitty about this: It's abuse, plain and simple. Men have physical power, women have social/psychological power. Western law allows them to use their power abuse you, you're not allowed to defend yourself using your power. She's abusing you and getting away with it.

Understand that you're journey for the most part is going to be a lonely road. Liberating, but lonely. There's lots of people in the middle of the bell curve, so they have plenty of company. Not so much at the top end. But here's the thing: You're still lonely even when hanging out with these people. Because you can't really connect with them. Cut these people out. Not tomorrow, not next week, now. You say you're attached to them? Guess what, drug addicts are 'attached' too. See where I'm going with that? You're being complacent, passively accepting this B.S. Not sure what your hobbies/interests are but get some masculine hobbies (esp. physical in nature). You'll find more guys like yourself. Good luck buddy.

Post: #43

Other than dropping your friends, which is advisable or seeing them less frequently, you have to call her out on her shit.

If she makes fun off your height you have two choices... the marginalizing high road or the low blow.

High Road

Her: "You're really short did you know that?"

You: "Yeah, what else?"..."You know, you reinforce the stereotype that girls have the brain size of squirrels" Continue on not letting anything of her rebuttal phase you. Simply tell her to shut up and that she is useless.

Low Blow

Go after her appearance

You: "Yeah well, you have muffin tops that comes out over your jeans, but you don't see me pointing that out"

Hit the gym and approve your ascetics

Post: #44

Seems she either has an issue respecting your, or she wants you instead of her sagged out tall beta chump. In the case of the latter she's basicly telling you "if you weren't so short I'd already fuck your brains out, please show me some value so I can ignore this one negative point you have." Because, indeed, height does matter to a woman, but as all other things it can easily be overcome by showing value in other areas.

In the case of the former she needs to be put into place. As you have let her walk over you for quite a while now, I assume, whatever you do will come off as weird to the group. Because it just isn't like they know you. They know you as this little short bitch who just takes her disrespect like a good beta as the rest of the group is. Go for the low blow, keep frame and thigns will either resolve itself or you'll fall out of the group (which you're thinking of doing anyway). You have to be harsh with these women or they won't understand.

Post: #45

I'm 5'7. When I have been called short in a teasing tone, I just smile and take it as a compliment almost.

If it's a girl trying to shit test, 'You're really short..', hold eye contact, and say 'what else do you like about me?' as you pull her in by the hips.

Post: #46

Tease her about her loose pussy. The whole rvf forum has been inside that canyon.

Post: #47

Absolutely top class post Deepdiver on the photography game! This is something that's always been on my mind and I will do that as a side project when I return overseas. I will be pming you. Thanks for dropping that awesome data! Keep posting!

Post: #48

(03-13-2013 12:17 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Absolutely top class post Deepdiver on the photography game! This is something that's always been on my mind and I will do that as a side project when I return overseas. I will be pming you. Thanks for dropping that awesome data! Keep posting!

"Thanks Princess Obvious, you've got a mighty big brain under that tiara!"

or

*dig in pocket while holding one finger up and saying "hold on"* *pull out a breath mint or a piece of gum and hand it to her...grab her hand and put it in there if you have to*

and then turn so you're not facing her and ask someone else a question or otherwise engage in conversation/action with someone/something else.

But that's just me and I've been lucky to not be that short. Ending the conversation and ignoring her from that point forward is the most crucial part.

Post: #49

I agree that you should blow her up in front of the group, but don't show anger. She's joking, so you should joke back, but about something you KNOW will get under the skin. If the boyfriend gets mad, fuck him. He should curb his bitch. If he says something to you, again, without anger, just say that you got tired of his girlfriend constantly waiting until she has an audience then trying to embarrass you. If she's going to do that, she should be able to handle what comes back. As for the sister, I think you should simply make your play. In front of the bitch that continually insults you. She'll either be with it or she won't. I think standing up for yourself in front of the group will benefit you in the long run, whether you end up fucking the sister or not. You're not there to be a source of entertainment for everyone.

Post: #50

SO I took your advise and when she made fun of me, I told her " I rather be short than have your personality and brain "

the BF full on white knighted me and started a physical shoving, but I lift, so he was quite weak . I held him down and while doing so, I told her" your personality is so bad, that you hooked up with someone like that, but if you were just less superficial , you could have found an awesome person who, even if he was shorter than you."

The guy tried to throw hooks this time round, , I took one to the face, blocked the second one and told him" why do you defend her, you can do so much better than her, plus your rich and tall ".

I saw something in his face changed, like I had gotten through to him( I hope), he backed down, and everyone went and comforted her( like WTF???, she was did not even fight, how is she a victim? I really hate feminism).

She was speechless and that incident broke up the whole social circle, but I don't care, no point hanging out with a bunch of betas. I have not heard from them since.

Gonna try to make some new friends in my new uni course I started.

Thank you for your help everyone.