Post: #126

(02-26-2013 11:05 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  

(02-26-2013 12:15 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-26-2013 11:39 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

(02-26-2013 10:59 AM)theIVth Wrote:  I think the average to above average guy that didnt start out at the bottom of the totem pole: the guy who could always get some female attention, always had girls flirting with him, was reasonably popular, played sports, well rounded etc, gets tired of chasing women after a while.

If you've been dealing with girls since you were around 13 or 14- kissing them, fingering them, smashing them, running trains on them, getting drunk with them, partying with them, vibing with them, getting dissed by them, getting rumors started about you by them, smashing their best friend or sister etc, you can only progress in life to eventually finding one that you want to settle down with at some point. Shit gets old after a while. Cause like I said, most guys are not smashing straight dimes every night. A true 8 or 9 coming around that wants to fuck with you is rare for the average man. Dealing with average to cute chicks gets stale after so many years.

Im 29 and Ive dealt with all kinds of women in all kinds of scenarios and relationships. Eventually your interests turns to other things like wanting to start a business or get into real estate or start messing with the stock market or whatever. Stuff that requires dedication and focus and time. Chasing women, going out 3 to 4 nights a week, constantly pressuring yourself to holler at every decent looking chick you see, always having to be on every time you leave the house gets tiring after a while. Ive been doing that since I was like 15.

I guess you just mature after a while and your able to say "ive been there and done that."

I don't know how all that experience would make you want to settle down? If anything it makes you realize settling down is a complete and utter waste of time. Sleeping with girls with boyfriends, girls that are married, seeing your top wingman sleep with a girl on her engagement day while you're banging her friend in the house, seeing all your older buddies get cheated on and seeing them cheat on their wives? Not sure how that makes sense.

Another overlooked point is getting good at cold approaching makes your social skills improve substantially, you can game your boss/office to get promotions. It's significantly harder to convince a stranger to trust you than a direct reference so when you game your office and also have a rec to back you it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

With that said I agree that your major focus in life should not be chasing tail, but that last leap of faith is tough...

Everyone has their own sliding scale of 1 sight versus two sevens or whatever the hell, but settle down? That's like shoving all your hard work down the toilet in a 50/50 bet where there is only downside. No thanks to that one, I'd rather risk being "old and bitter" since that's the argument all my loser colleagues use when they hit 35 and look 47 down $500K in assets from a divorce... Or two.

As the saying goes, "who do you trust?"... "Who do I trust... Me that's fucking who" is the only answer.

True.

Quote:Chasing women, going out 3 to 4 nights a week

But here is the thing, some of us actually enjoy seducing women.

Exactly. Some dudes play golf. I game women. It's as legitimate a hobby as hitting a ball into a hole. To each their own.

Yeah, this sh*t is the funnest sh*t in the world.

What else is there to do at night but throw on a Custom Suit, order a cocktail, stick a grit in your mouth and spit Game?

If someone can tell me about a more fun activity, I am all ears.

Post: #127

(02-27-2013 09:00 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  What else is there to do at night but throw on a Custom Suit, order a cocktail, stick a grit in your mouth and spit Game?

If someone can tell me about a more fun activity, I am all ears.

The part that comes after.

Post: #128

(02-27-2013 09:03 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 09:00 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  What else is there to do at night but throw on a Custom Suit, order a cocktail, stick a grit in your mouth and spit Game?

If someone can tell me about a more fun activity, I am all ears.

The part that comes after.

That was a good one.

But it does raise an interesting point.

Some guys actually do like "The Game" (The Process) and some guys like "The Result".

I like both obviously, but I truly do enjoy every moment leading up to "The Result".

I am such a positive, hopeful and glass half full person that "The Result" many times is a disappointment.

On the contrary, "The Game" never lets me down.

Post: #129

(02-27-2013 09:42 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 09:03 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 09:00 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  What else is there to do at night but throw on a Custom Suit, order a cocktail, stick a grit in your mouth and spit Game?

If someone can tell me about a more fun activity, I am all ears.

The part that comes after.

That was a good one.

But it does raise an interesting point.

Some guys actually do like "The Game" (The Process) and some guys like "The Result".

I like both obviously, but I truly do enjoy every moment leading up to "The Result".

I am such a positive, hopeful and glass half full person that "The Result" many times is a disappointment.

On the contrary, "The Game" never lets me down.

Yep. The hardest part for people to realize is that enjoying the process is the real goal.

I'm focusing more on money now, but when there is nothing productive to be done on a Saturday night I'll put on an outfit and head out.

If you think that meeting new people (notice I didn't say just women) is "hard and annoying", you're going to burn out fast.

If you don't like people, you're cooked long-term in the game. Both "the game" ... and the real game... Of life.

Post: #130

(02-27-2013 09:42 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 09:03 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 09:00 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  What else is there to do at night but throw on a Custom Suit, order a cocktail, stick a grit in your mouth and spit Game?

If someone can tell me about a more fun activity, I am all ears.

The part that comes after.

That was a good one.

But it does raise an interesting point.

Some guys actually do like "The Game" (The Process) and some guys like "The Result".

I like both obviously, but I truly do enjoy every moment leading up to "The Result".

I am such a positive, hopeful and glass half full person that "The Result" many times is a disappointment.

On the contrary, "The Game" never lets me down.

There are times that the result has let me down; nothing worse than running flawless game on that fly girl, and then the result is that she's a starfish or has more boundaries than anyone needs to have, or she throws up resistance like Russia instead of falling like France. There's also times when you bang out a girl and you realize that there isn't anything else worth knowing about her (which is sort of a theme of this thread), those let me down sometimes.

I enjoy the game, no denying that; I love to innovate and refine the process, and I've met more awesome people (guys and girls) out gaming dolo than I have through more 'mainstream' options like sports teams, work or 'friends of friends' (let's be honest, most of the people you meet in these types of situations are wack).

But, when the options are to go out and chop or stay in and recharge, sometimes I'd rather just kick back and cash in an account; going out each night tabula rasa is thrilling and an apt challenge to the modern man, but there are times when it's a Friday and I'm sitting back, watching a movie, pouring out a drink and holding my phone, thinking aloud 'Should I call her, her, or her?'

And that makes me happy.

Post: #131

(02-27-2013 07:54 AM)CtrlAltElite Wrote:  

(02-24-2013 10:40 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  I agree, banging a lot of the chicks is the fantasy but a girlfriend is really what they want. At least it is for all of my guy friends and none are really beta. The question then becomes: what is the optimal game for finding, getting, and keeping such a woman. Has to be quite different than the game used to get a lot of bangs.

While this may be true, I've read on Roissy that for all intents and purposes, the optimal game is the SNL game. He reasons that you can you can turn a SNL into a LTR, but not vice versa. The way I see it, since you're already attractive to her, with a bit of LTR game tossed in, she could see you as high value and desirable in the long run, facilitating an LTR.

I speak from theory though.

Edit: Samseau also posted about this.

It's not that optimal game is SNL game, it's that optimal game leads to SNL's.

Get it? "Optimal game" = Being the most attractive man possible. Do everything right, and she fucks quickly.

Post: #132

(02-26-2013 09:16 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-26-2013 09:11 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  G, yes I live in Miami, and I can find some sensuality here IF I get them within 6 months of arriving here. Once a Brasilian girl has been here for more than 6 months, she starts acting like her American friends to fit in. And yes, Latin girls are more sensual than American and European girls BUT compared to the original shit in South America, there's no comparison! If I had never lived in Brasil, I would be a much happier man now

Interesting take.

I don't really see that much difference between a Costena, Calena or Rolla in Miami and one in Colombia.

The change is more in their attitude than anything else and attitude affects how you come across to someone.

Post: #133

(02-27-2013 02:45 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

(02-26-2013 09:16 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(02-26-2013 09:11 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  G, yes I live in Miami, and I can find some sensuality here IF I get them within 6 months of arriving here. Once a Brasilian girl has been here for more than 6 months, she starts acting like her American friends to fit in. And yes, Latin girls are more sensual than American and European girls BUT compared to the original shit in South America, there's no comparison! If I had never lived in Brasil, I would be a much happier man now

Interesting take.

I don't really see that much difference between a Costena, Calena or Rolla in Miami and one in Colombia.

The change is more in their attitude than anything else and attitude affects how you come across to someone.

Yeah, I don't really see much of a change in their attitude.

I actually kind of relate to the Miami ones better. (Strange huh?)

Post: #134

(02-27-2013 09:49 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  Yep. The hardest part for people to realize is that enjoying the process is the real goal.

I'm focusing more on money now, but when there is nothing productive to be done on a Saturday night I'll put on an outfit and head out.

If you think that meeting new people (notice I didn't say just women) is "hard and annoying", you're going to burn out fast.

If you don't like people, you're cooked long-term in the game. Both "the game" ... and the real game... Of life.

Those that can't fathom enjoying the process, haven't had a real taste of the rewards. Can dealing with people be annoying? Sure. Can people be horrible to you when you're just trying to be social? Sure, but those are the outliers, not the norm once you really start to wrap your head around socializing and networking and truly grasp the skills.

As a non-pickup example, my family had a visitor (son of family friends) out here from Europe that REALLY wanted to do some spearfishing. All of his seemingly solid contacts fell through/flaked on him so he ended up here without a lot of opportunity to dive (not having a boat and not having a car). His parents had visited prior and I'd had the pleasure of meeting them and getting to know about their son (the visitor), so I knew that he was a cool enough cat that it would be worthwhile to show him around (despite my busy schedule) and have him crash at my beach pad instead of my parent's place (where there's not much to do in the area).

He rented a car, stayed at my place, and got to do all kinds of great activities, but the icing on the cake for him (and I) was that through attending a dive event and making it a point to talk to EVERYONE we could regarding trying to get this guy out on a boat to dive, we managed to score a couple spots on a friend of an acquaintance's 40 foot yacht. 9 hours later we were on the yacht off the coast on a gorgeous day having an absolute great time. The boat captain let us borrow a couple pieces of equipment we needed, a speargun for the out of towner, and the other two divers onboard were "buena gente" who treated us like close friends. Total cost to us for such an experience? $20 in fuel each for the yacht and maybe another $20 driving to and from the dive event and the marina the next day.

My guest gained a lot between the housing/location, the dive trip, as well as the other time I was able to spend with him showing him around the local attractions. I gained a friend with a place to stay in Europe (where I happen to want to travel) with a social circle just a little younger than me (perfect with regards to picking up women while there), I got a great contact for future spearfishing trips locally, and I got a lot accomplished (places we visited that I'd been wanting to visit, super unique pictures for my photography class, a business opportunity with the guy, etc...).

When you can socialize/network at a high level, the world is your oyster.

Post: #135

(02-27-2013 04:31 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  When you can socialize/network at a high level, the world is your oyster.

With lemon and hot sauce.

Post: #136

I just want the bangs. If a quality one comes along I'll keep her around for longer.

Post: #137

The issue presented in this thread is pretty well summed up by a post by Blackdragon where he breaks down the two types of guys that are split on this issue. My bad about the wall of text, but I think it's really worth a read.

Quote:There are two distinct types of non-AFC men. Thrill of the Hunt men (TotH) and Pleasure of Sex men (PoS).

Before I describe each, let me clarify a few things.

* Neither type of guy is any better than the other. They’re not better or worse. They’re just different. As you’re about to see, there are lot of pros and cons to both styles.

* BOTH types of men are Alpha males. Both types can be skilled at seduction and/or relationships. Both are “cool”.

* These two types of men have nothing to do with monogamy or poly, nor is this a discussion about mono vs. poly. Both types of men can desire mono and/or poly relationships (though with different results as you’ll soon see). Men of both kinds are very horny, love sex, and (sadly) usually desire to “settle down” and get monogamous someday “down the road”. Neither type of guy should get monogamous, for completely different reasons that I’ll demonstrate in a minute. But again, this is not a discussion about monogamy.

* As you read through these descriptions, you’re going to think “I’m a little bit of both.” Lots of guys have some PoS and TofH in them, but you are not “both” no matter how much you think you are. One of them is stronger in you than the other. That being said, some guys can be extreme in their style (PoS or TotH) and some guys just be “standard” in their style. But you’re one or the other, not both.

The Difference Between The Two

PoS guys desire sex. They don’t care how they get it as long as it’s easy, quick, and not a lot of trouble. For TotH guys, the hunt is just as important as the sex. Sometimes it’s even more important.

That’s really it…but it’s a big difference.

TotH guys are always pushing themselves to the limit, trying to accomplish difficult lays. Fucking a gal who was really hard lay is a huge source of pleasure for them. The harder the lay, the more they had to work, the more they had to push themselves for the lay, the better they like it. Whenever you read about a 45 minute bathroom lay at a club, you’re likely reading about a TotH guy. Whenever you read about a guy battling a chick’s reluctant ASD for hours to score that SNL or SDL, you’re very likely reading about a TotH guy.

PoS guys just want to get laid. They want to get to the sex as easily as possible without a lot of hassle, even if the methods they use are considered “boring” or “AFC”. They just want the sex. They don’t give as shit about the hunt. As a matter of fact, extreme PoS guys won’t bother with pickup at all…they’ll just pay for hookers. Again, they don’t care how they get it. They just want it. Whenever you read about a guy talking about how great Facebook is for getting laid, you're likely looking at a PoS guy.

TotH guys view the process of seduction as fun and thoroughly enjoyable. PoS guys view the process of seduction as a necessary evil. They both can be very effective. One wants to push himself to accomplish great things, the other wants to get laid fast and easily. Either approach can work.

Seduction / Pickup

TotH men tend to have very, very strong game. They know how to get laid easily and rarely have a problem with it. They tend to be very comfortable with people and women pick up on that.

Seduction and pickup tend to be the stronger point for TotH men and tend to be the weaker point for PoS guys. (Generally speaking, of course.)

Game Styles

TotH guys will naturally gravitate towards styles of game that are “harder”, like club game or street game. They distain things like online game or going out on "dates". Style, who back in his prime was a hardcore TotH guy, once wrote that he tried online game, laid five chicks in a row very fast, and stopped doing online game. Why? It was “too easy”. TotH don’t want the hunt to be easy…that ruins the whole point for them. They often look down at guys who fuck chicks on the second or third date for example, because to them that’s “too easy” and “doesn’t require any game”.

PoS are the exact opposite. They will gravitate towards game styles that are “easier” or more “AFC”, like online game and very low-key daygame. They’ll even do things like speed dating…anything that will make the process easier is cool for them. PoS guys usually dislike the hunt and find it tedious or a waste of time…they just want the sex to come easily.

ASD

When TotH guy encounters ASD, he gets very excited at the challenge and will dive right in. He will happily spend hours battling ASD to win his prize. When a PoS guy encounters ASD, he’ll try a few things, but if they don’t work, he bails fast and is off to the next gal. She “pissed me off” or “was a bitch” or was “too much trouble”.

Relationships

Whenever a TotH guy gets monogamous, for a while he likes it, but soon he gets very uncomfortable because he’s out of the hunt. So TotH guys tend to be hardcore cheaters, cheating on women a lot. TotH guys need to hunt. TotH relationships almost always tend to end up being either very short-term serial monogamist ones, or relationships where he’s cheating often.

Because of their love of sex, when PoS guys find a steady source, they have a tendency to cling to that source. Therefore, PoS guys tend to get into relationships must faster than TotH guys and also tend to get needy and oneitisy faster. PoS guys tend to me much more “relationshippy” than TotH guys, many of whom don’t even like talking about relationships in detail and often consider it pussy-talk (even if they have a girlfriend). PoS guys also tend to put up with more “crap” (i.e. drama) from a woman they’re with than TotH guys, who will just use it as an excuse to get right back into the hunt for someone new.

TotH guys tend to get bored of the same sexual partner very quickly. No matter how hot she is or how much he loves her, he will soon get bored with her sexually and want to get back into the hunt to find someone one new. It’s much harder for PoS guys to get sexually bored with a partner…they can fuck the same chick for years and years and still enjoy it with her. Of course, they’re still men so they still want to fuck other women too, but not because they’re bored with woman number one and not because they desire the hunt. They just want variety (all men do, of all types, it's a guy thing).

It's a mirror image of seduction: relationships tend to be the stronger point for PoS guys and tend to be the weaker point for TotH guys. (Generally speaking, of course.)

Disagreements Between The Two Types

TotH guys tend to view PoS guys as pussies or lazy or AFCish. They view PoS guys as not wanting to push themselves to be better men. Whenever you see a club game guy bash online game, this is the dynamic you’re seeing.

PoS guys tend to view TotH as immature, teenage-like, and time-wasters. Whenever you see a PUA telling another PUA to "grow up", or say something like “Dude WTF? Why did you stay up until 3am to fuck so-and-so when you could have just fucked so-and-so in probably an hour? That’s dumb!”, this is the dynamic you’re seeing.

Many times, arguments in the seduction community (and oh my, there are a lot of them) often are not about what they're presented to be about. The disagreements might look like it’s about game style or technique or psychology, when in fact, its simply a disagreement about how the two different types of guys view the world of women.

As I said, one is not right and the other wrong. Both have very good points. I myself am a PoS guy. Many years ago I had some BIG arguments with some TotH guys, until I realized what was going on. That’s when I stopped arguing with TotH guys, acknowledged that how they viewed the process of seduction was very different than me, and moved on.

The TotH guy who is constantly pushing others to improve does have a point. The PoS guy who thinks it’s stupid to stay up until 2am to get laid also has a point. They’re both right, just looking at things very differently.

Where Do You Fit In?

You need to identify yourself. You’re either a predominantly TotH guy or a PoS guy. Yes, you may have aspects of both, but you’ll have one dominant one. Once you figure out what type of guy you are, you should be congruent with that.

TotH guys should always stay in the hunt. Always! The minute you get taken out of the hunt (due to monogamy or complacency or despondency) is the minute you start to implode, and often get depressed…if you’re in relationship you’ll soon cheat or dump the woman in your life, possibly prematurely.

PoS guys should never feel pressured to learn game styles or techniques that seem “cool”. They should do what works for them, not what’s cool. More importantly, PoS guys should never settle for one magical pussy, and as a PoS guy you'll be very tempted to do this. They should always be aware that ALL RELATIONSHIPS ARE TEMPOARY and you should always be honing your skills.

Hope that helps.

http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php?2...of-Sex-men

Post: #138

@Stoic Interesting concept TotH vs PoS. You should create a thread for this. I am definitely more TotH myself.

Post: #139

I was recently scanning the Forbes 400 list of the richest people in America and guess what? Most of the men on that list are married. Here are men that are literally rich enough to buy a real harem and yet most of them are married. I have a feeling that if being in a LTR was as time consuming as getting a lot of bangs these men would not be as rich as they are.

Post: #140

(03-01-2013 12:41 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  I was recently scanning the Forbes 400 list of the richest people in America and guess what? Most of the men on that list are married. Here are men that are literally rich enough to buy a real harem and yet most of them are married. I have a feeling that if being in a LTR was as time consuming as getting a lot of bangs these men would not be as rich as they are.

I remember reading the book "The Millionare Next Door" that dispelled a lot of myths about the average millionare and one of the things the book said was that the average millionare is married and usually to "average" women and not trophy wives... It makes sense. It's time consuming chasing women and it's time consuming making money. Pretty hard to do both at a high level..

Post: #141

Yep, exactly. Chasing and bang a lot of women is a figging full-time job. And I can personally attest to this.

Post: #142

I think after a certain level all guys become a PoS guy. What I mean by that is that there are many professional athletes and entertainers, who've reached the highest levels of accomplishments, that employ the services of escorts more often then not. They're at the top, no need to prove anything to themselves anymore with regard to challenge. They could go and mack normal broads and have success, but they'd rather just cut to the chase. They just want some discrete, hassle-free, quality ass.

Post: #143

Very true. Someone once said the cheapest sex you will every get is the sex you pay for.

Post: #144

(03-02-2013 04:32 PM)nek Wrote:  I think after a certain level all guys become a PoS guy. What I mean by that is that there are many professional athletes and entertainers, who've reached the highest levels of accomplishments, that employ the services of escorts more often then not. They're at the top, no need to prove anything to themselves anymore with regard to challenge. They could go and mack normal broads and have success, but they'd rather just cut to the chase. They just want some discrete, hassle-free, quality ass.

It's more economical for them as well.

Do you think a guy making $350,000 a year can spend 6 hours day gaming at a mall?

Now imagine a guy making 3.5 million.

Post: #145

Quote:Yeah, this sh*t is the funnest sh*t in the world.

What else is there to do at night but throw on a Custom Suit, order a cocktail, stick a grit in your mouth and spit Game?

If someone can tell me about a more fun activity, I am all ears.

Custom Suit? Not unless it looks like this: http://z6.invisionfree.com/Obscurus_Crus...topic=1043

Playing Settlers of Catan with a bunch of friends, beating the wife into the ground then charging her up the ass for resources!

Playing League of Legends with a few friends at a LAN party, freaking out when you win a match and going nuts with your boys.

Playing Starcraft at a Netbar with friends and laughing in the faces of other friends.

Sinking time into this game: X-Beyond the Frontier... love that game.

Sitting around playing Magic Cards with friends, also buying and collecting magic cards.

Wife getting dressed up in cosplay stuff, making me dinner and then hammering wife cause I love her AND she's a good cook.

Travelling across China, meeting other guys from the RooshV board...

Playing
I can think of about 20 board games I'd rather be playing then sitting around yaking to random boring women.

I don't really get bored of my wife, she's my bestfriend, girlfriend and maid all rolled into one... and I never have to bug her for sex, I just open her legs while shes watching cartoons or something and she's ready to go. She is extremely petite, shy and submissive which translates into me having to do everything in the bedroom but I'd rather have her like that then the other extreme. I ONLY rawdog her, infact she insists on it and I know she wants a baby so I'm not especially worried about her getting pregnant either... (I do too). We play a ton of board games together and both have PSPs and Iphones with games we play together. We have similar goals in life and she does her best to budget and minimize all of our expenses so we can achieve our financial goals together.

Earlier this year, I needed an ambulance and since I'm such a cheap fvck, I refused to goto the docs (I hate hospitals)... I actually almost died and passed out walking down some stairs. She was with me and called up everyone from my company and her parents (they are poor) to lend her some money to call an ambulance. She saved my life that day, the doc said I would have died a few hours later if it wasn't for her. She takes care of me whenever I'm sick, tucks me in at night, makes sure I have a lunch to goto work with, calls to see if I need anything during the day... she sends me about 3 texts a day asking if I need her to do anything and how I'm feeling. Sometimes she sexts when shes in the mood.

This year we are buying another house... I am quite happy I have her around, I call her my R-tard-D2.

She is very clingy though so I can't really go anywhere without her holding on for dear life. I guess I forego sex with random hot girls but I'm starting to develop one-itis for my wife and this is a woman that I picked based on personality. I even tossed out all my porn and stuff, for some reason when I get the urge now, only the wife will do... I know when I first met her she was a 6 at best... now when I look at her she's a 9. There is something to be said for bonding.

Almost all Chinese girls are cute, very few are beautiful. Its a tradeoff.

If you want to know the key to my success, I date based on the Chinese Zodiac, it just so happens that we are the perfect animal match which is kinda weird but I guess it makes sense. I think I'll start a thread about this.

Sorry didn't mean to de-rail the thread, I just really like my wife, she's the best investment in my future I've ever made. I would never do anything to jepordize that, she deserves the very best and she also succeeds in bringing out the best in me. I am highly motivated for my future and my children's future because of her.

So for me: Girlfriend/Wife all the way.

Post: #146

I'm amazed they haven't banned you as yet

Post: #147

Why is that? Its the american way of thinking that's sick dude... once you get away from the westosphere long enough, you'll stop thinking about 'bangs' and start thinking about creating family.

American women are poison for the mind.

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi <-- I'm living this.

I don't sit around drinking martinis and dressing in nice clothing.

I have a hoodie, old running shoes, jeans with holes in them and I play videogames... and I can still pickup TONS of women but get laid on a daily basis with my bestfriend, is that not PUA? What the hell is the goal of PUA in the long term anyway? A string of meaningless relationships? As I understood, learning PUA was meant for meeting up with a girl and rocking her world, not flagging every country on the planet with random hoes and sloppy seconds.

I'm always available out here for anyone who is seriously thinking of pursuing the WIFE root. Lots of women abroad to go around.

Post: #148

It's great if you like to have a wife, but there's no need for the

(03-04-2013 11:55 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  and I can still pickup TONS of women but get laid on a daily basis with my bestfriend,

talk.

Your best friend? You must not know many interesting men if a woman is the best friend you have.

Men don't fuck friends, they fuck women.

Post: #149

@Badwolf Thanks, will certainly keep you in mind if I come to China.

Post: #150

I'm enjoying the hunt and bangs (7 so far in 2013) but I do miss one great GF at the same time. It's nice to have a chick to go to movies with, day activities with like art museums, etc and epic vacations with. I'm going to settle sooner rather than later I can tell.