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RE: Couchsurfing red alert!!!!!
Things are getting interesting on the CS Rio thread. The Brazilian dude who started the shit storm is now appealing to moderation:
Quote:Achei os caras super-nojentos, mas também não vamos radicalizar demais nem julgar muito os outros.
Translation:
Quote:I found those guys [RVF members] super-disgusting, but let's not get too radical or too judgemental.
A black dude from Haiti who writes broken Portuguese posted the funniest comment on the whole thread:
Quote:Repeitar quem so quer foder: As pessoas que querem isso bom pra eles, mas eles precisam achar as pessoas que quem fazer isso com eles e respeitar os otros.
Translation:
Quote:We must respect those who just want to fuck. If that is what they want, good for them, but they need to find the people who just want to fuck and they must respect others.
Another dude from Rio sort of ambiguously criticized one of the chicks who called us sons of whores. Check out the dude's profile photo:
Does anyone doubt that this dude is banging his female CS guests on the regular? He may even be a RVF member. His album is full of photos of him posing at the beach, showing his muscles, and partying with cute chicks. He has two negative references. One from a gay dude accusing him of being homophobic and refusing him accommodation due to his sexual preference. The other negative reference is from a Jewish chick from NYC who accuses him of sexual harassment:
Quote:It was my only negative CSing experience, I have really no interest in 'lying' on this site, i just want to preserve the integrity of the site, and I would not like to have another female CSer have a bad experience with him. He was very pushy and kept trying to kiss me despite saying 'no' many times (politely at first, yelled after) and also did other things not in the couchsurfing vibe. After we left I was also a bit scared because he was trying to find out where we went to. There was another girl who stayed one night there when we arrived and she was really keen to leave right away as well. I just regret I brought 2 newbies there for their first couchsurfing experience! For a guy its probably OK to stay with him.
"The great secret of happiness in love is to be glad that the other fellow married her." – H.L. Mencken
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RE: Couchsurfing red alert!!!!!
(07-17-2012 06:59 AM)houston Wrote: (07-17-2012 05:43 AM)Icarus Wrote: Apparently, the Brazilian dude who started this shit storm on CS found us via a Facebook discussion on the CS Rotterdam Facebook page last week. Some comments from that thread on Facebook:
The usual BS:
Quote:that's sad, but i think they have to live their life thinking about fornication all the time, it's an antidode of their ultra-high-vucuum..they are insicure (poor'em) and probabily not so cool to stay so much time with someone talking about interesting things..bad with bad ones..
Some useful information:
Quote:Amsterdam CS meeting is full of pickup guys (because there are new girls everytime and almost no regular members)
Damsel in distress:
Quote:I've never surfed with a guy who lives alone... for these reasons. It's too bad, but if I'm traveling by myself, I can't afford to take those kinds of chances. I think it's great that some girls feel comfortable doing it... but I don't. Of course I want to be able to trust everyone, but I refuse to be naive. A friend of mine just had her first CS experiences this summer in France and Italy. 2 of her hosts put moves on her. I was appalled. I tried to tell her that CS isn't like that...but nothing I can say will change her firsthand experience. She prefers hostels now. I know some of you are thinking "well, she surfed with French and Italian guys...what does she expect?"...but that's complete crap.
This is the guy who started that thread on Facebook and all of this bullshit. Apparently, he works for Couchsurfing.
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Yup. Just two dudes enjoying the afternoon with some energy drinks on a blanket on a random patch of grass. Nothing to see here.
Text roll.
Hans: What you like to do today I have holiday from job.
Jergen: I'm free on holiday too you have blanket in bicycle basket?
Hans: Yes why
Jergen: I have energy drinks in mine left over from my ride home from Techno club last night.
Hans:I would like energy drink
Jergen: You know patch of grass near small road next to bushes?
Hans: Yes
Jergen : Meet me there for afternoon and energy drink
Hans: ok
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RE: Couchsurfing red alert!!!!!
Luciana is super fucking pissed at us (especially at me for linking to her photo) for commenting on her photo. She is quite literally hysterical. Hence, since she's probably following our discussion, here's a message for her.
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Dear Luciana,
It has been brought to my attention that you are displeased with the fact that your photo has been shown on this forum. I should point out that:
1) I did not upload your photo, I merely linked to it. I can no longer edit the post to delete the link, for the post is editable for only 60 minutes after it has been submitted. Note, however, that I did not include your last name to protect your privacy.
2) The photo is not hosted on this website, but at the Amazon servers that CouchSurfing rents for storage. I do understand that you're upset, but the moment you uploaded photos to your CS profile you made them AVAILABLE TO THE ENTIRE WORLD, irrespective of whether your CS profile is only visible to CS members or not. This is a CS privacy problem that I cannot solve.
My advice: delete the photo that was shown here. If CS is well-designed, the moment you delete your photo on CS, a message will be sent to the Amazon servers to delete it there. If this does not work, you have to accept the fact that your photos will be stored in the Amazon servers forever, or until Amazon collapses, whichever comes first.
In other words, I cannot solve your problem.
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RE: Couchsurfing red alert!!!!!
(07-17-2012 06:22 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote: That last sentence make me laugh. Every girl in the world is always saying that French and Italian dudes are the most romantic dudes around but when they are couchsurfers they should be extremely white knighting betas who do no dare to make a move on a girl because they are only interested in cultural exchanges.
Seriously, us players use couchsurfing as a tool to pick up a local girl but most beta dudes in the CS scene just use it to come in contact with any girl because they are lame guys who can't pick up chicks if their lives depended on it. Talk about creepy. I would like to see the ratio of guys who only let girls stay over at their places or the ones who actually take older 50+ men/women in also.
If they are that political correct, nice and only interested in cultural exchange they should also take in 200 pound old women dressed in tents.
The naivete of these women is boundless. How many men are going to give a woman free housing, pick her up from the airport, be her tour guide and at least not hope to get some nookie out of it? Do they really think most guys are doing all that stuff purely out of the kindness of their hearts? Some are admittedly, but even the guys who make no moves on the girls they host are secretly hoping she makes one on him.
After reading this thread, I did a little talley on CS. I was looking at the list of women and men for my city who were looking for a couch. Out of 100 male requests, only 8 had 3 or more replies. Out of 100 women it was 32. So it's basically 4x easier for a girl to get hosted than a guy, and most the hosts are guys. You'll also note that a girl that's pretty almost instantaneously has the "3 or more replies" flag next to her name. What does that tell you? And most the people with their couch set to "yes" are guys. Most women seem to set theirs to "maybe" or "drink or coffee". So let's just be honest about what CS is without all the idealistic facade. It's largely a way for women to travel for free thanks to the "generosity" of men hoping for sex from a foreign woman. Maybe that's not now why CS was started, and maybe that's not what it should be used for, but just looking at who gets hosted the most and who's doing the hosting, the pattern is clear. So to you guys reading this thread from CS groups and angered by this forum, this shit was already going on. If you are that angry about it, then petition the admins to make a rule that women can only contact other women. Short of that, nothing is going to stop guys from using the site as a tool to hookup. Freud was right, everything men do short of becoming a priest, is ultimately driven by sexual desires.
So quit your damn whining. Hell, I bet even the guy that founded CS has banged a few girls that slept on his couch. So seriously, shut up about it already. We all know it happens, and you guys aren't going to stop it. Instead of worrying about how many "creepers" are on the site, consider that many women have met their boyfriends and future husbands through CS. Guess what? I'm sure that guy was just trying to score some pussy as well, but maybe somewhere in the process he fell in love. It happens too. Chill out about it. You throw single men and women into close quarters and you think there is going to be no sexual tension? How naive are you people?
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RE: Couchsurfing red alert!!!!!
(07-17-2012 03:46 PM)Icarus Wrote: Luciana is super fucking pissed at us (especially at me for linking to her photo) for commenting on her photo. She is quite literally hysterical. Hence, since she's probably following our discussion, here's a message for her.
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Dear Luciana,
It has been brought to my attention that you are displeased with the fact that your photo has been shown on this forum. I should point out that:
1) I did not upload your photo, I merely linked to it. I can no longer edit the post to delete the link, for the post is editable for only 60 minutes after it has been submitted. Note, however, that I did not include your last name to protect your privacy.
2) The photo is not hosted on this website, but at the Amazon servers that CouchSurfing rents for storage. I do understand that you're upset, but the moment you uploaded photos to your CS profile you made them AVAILABLE TO THE ENTIRE WORLD, irrespective of whether your CS profile is only visible to CS members or not. This is a CS privacy problem that I cannot solve.
My advice: delete the photo that was shown here. If CS is well-designed, the moment you delete your photo on CS, a message will be sent to the Amazon servers to delete it there. If this does not work, you have to accept the fact that your photos will be stored in the Amazon servers forever, or until Amazon collapses, whichever comes first.
In other words, I cannot solve your problem.
-Icarus
Hey Luciana, you are more than welcome to come surf my couch. I'll be good to you. I promise!
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RE: Couchsurfing red alert!!!!!
(07-17-2012 04:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote: (07-17-2012 06:22 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote: That last sentence make me laugh. Every girl in the world is always saying that French and Italian dudes are the most romantic dudes around but when they are couchsurfers they should be extremely white knighting betas who do no dare to make a move on a girl because they are only interested in cultural exchanges.
Seriously, us players use couchsurfing as a tool to pick up a local girl but most beta dudes in the CS scene just use it to come in contact with any girl because they are lame guys who can't pick up chicks if their lives depended on it. Talk about creepy. I would like to see the ratio of guys who only let girls stay over at their places or the ones who actually take older 50+ men/women in also.
If they are that political correct, nice and only interested in cultural exchange they should also take in 200 pound old women dressed in tents.
The naivete of these women is boundless. How many men are going to give a woman free housing, pick her up from the airport, be her tour guide and at least not hope to get some nookie out of it? Do they really think most guys are doing all that stuff purely out of the kindness of their hearts? Some are admittedly, but even the guys who make no moves on the girls they host are secretly hoping she makes one on him.
This exactly !
How many creeping loser guys are there who only let girls stay at there houses and HOPE, let me repeat HOPE that the beautiful foreign girl likes them?. They HOPE that they can get something out if it because they are too scared to do anything about it. The same type of guys that work their butts off for the girl and hope she rewards him in some way.
The girl just enjoys a free ride/meal/guide/room and gives the guy a hug in the end. In the meanwhile she probably looking for a real local guy.
I've been to a couchsurfer meeting in Sau paulo last year in Augusta street and have nevr seen more dorks than there. I hoped there were some cool people around but not really.
I find guys like that very creepy and it doesn't compare to guys like us who openly admit to use the site to meet a girl.
More than 75% of couchsurfing girls i met for a coffee were obviously looking for some romance or were very easily persuaded into kissing or more. I bet lots of girls secretly hope to land some dumb guy who sends money over once a month. This is almost a fact in poorer countries.
What a bunch of hypocrites !!
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Icarus
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RE: Couchsurfing red alert!!!!!
(07-17-2012 04:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote: The naivete of these women is boundless. How many men are going to give a woman free housing, pick her up from the airport, be her tour guide and at least not hope to get some nookie out of it? Do they really think most guys are doing all that stuff purely out of the kindness of their hearts? Some are admittedly, but even the guys who make no moves on the girls they host are secretly hoping she makes one on him.
Exactly. But, there's more to life than nookie!!
No, I am not talking about "cultural exchange" and stuff like that. I hosted 100s of couchsurfers, and never did I hit on my female guests. So, what do I get out of it? Two words: free labor.
Imagine that I get home from work at 8 pm. I tell my guests to arrive at that time, too. I also tell them to buy some food. So, the guests arrive, we chat a bit, then I go take a long shower while my guests (male or female) cook. Let's see: they buy food for me, they cook for me, and they pay for it. What's not to like? They get free accommodation in an amazing place. They get something out of it, too. Win-win situation. Perfect!
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RE: Couchsurfing red alert!!!!!
(07-17-2012 06:41 PM)Icarus Wrote: (07-17-2012 04:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote: The naivete of these women is boundless. How many men are going to give a woman free housing, pick her up from the airport, be her tour guide and at least not hope to get some nookie out of it? Do they really think most guys are doing all that stuff purely out of the kindness of their hearts? Some are admittedly, but even the guys who make no moves on the girls they host are secretly hoping she makes one on him.
Exactly. But, there's more to life than nookie!!
No, I am not talking about "cultural exchange" and stuff like that. I hosted 100s of couchsurfers, and never did I hit on my female guests. So, what do I get out of it? Two words: free labor.
Imagine that I get home from work at 8 pm. I tell my guests to arrive at that time, too. I also tell them to buy some food. So, the guests arrive, we chat a bit, then I go take a long shower while my guests (male or female) cook. Let's see: they buy food for me, they cook for me, and they pay for it. What's not to like? They get free accommodation in an amazing place. They get something out of it, too. Win-win situation. Perfect!
I hear ya. I haven't hit on every girl I've hosted either. If there's clearly no vibe like that between us, then I err on the side of caution. I'm there to have fun, not make an uncomfortable situation for anyone. Some have been very nice and bought groceries and cooked great meals and seemed genuinely appreciative. One girl I hosted a few months back bought like $100 of groceries(including liquor) within minutes of arriving. I was about to pay for my own stuff, but she took out her card and bought her stuff and mine. And then cooked as soon as we got back. When they are cool like that, then I don't mind showing them a great time in return.
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RE: Couchsurfing red alert!!!!!
Gents,
We are being discussed in this thread on the Independent Women CS group:
Bad publicity about 'girls' and couchsurfing... brace yourselves ladies!
Here are some comments from the "disgusted" maidens:
Quote:There are a lot of different threads about couchsurfing in that forum, I am reading a few and I am so scared and disgusted, it's all about strategies to have sex with girls, racist and sexist comments about women, and some guys even posted pictures of couchsurfing girls he slept with to have the others give her a vote. I have no words, really. Sadly, I think there is not much to do. I decided to avoid male hosts and surfers anyway, as sad as it is.
Quote:Wow. This roosh guy and his followers make me want to vomit. Is it a situation where flooding his forum and email inbox would maybe make an impact? I'm sex positive, and believe in "male-ism" as much as feminism... but I feel gross and violated just reading those types of comments. I think anybody who believes, or talks about anyone, especially women, primarily as "good to stick my dick into" should be banned and put on sex offender watch.
Quote:To be honest I was a bit naive about the site. I read the entire thread you linked us to and I haven't seen such vulgarity laid bare like that.. it's not often that I'm able to see an uncensored conversation among womanizing, shallow and may I say awful guys.
A Brazilian chick compliments us:
Quote:Sure, the guys in that forum aren't nice guys but unless they're raping these women, I don't see what the problem is. These are consenting adults and it's none of our business what they do in their bedrooms. Is the problem that they're using CS to get laid? Well, isn't it a problem that the CS admin team have used donor money to fund their little personal adventures for years now? (...) Generally, from what I've seen, female CSers who want to avoid trouble generally avoid it (and reading some comments in that forum the guys are saying that it can be hard to "bang" a CS girl because they're about cultural exchanges) but my jaw continuously drops at the sight of dating-site, *escort-look-alike* photos that women post to their profiles. And the number of dumb women who stay with guys who already have negative references about how they harassed other female CSers - I mean maybe there should be a minimum IQ to join CS?
Here are some "red pill" chicks:
Quote:I've tried to explain these tactics to other women and they did not believe me, they thought I was being paranoid. Now the information is coming straight from the source.
Quote:I still see nothing to be surprised of. I would be much more shocked to find out there are men out there who really have romantic feelings for women. Call me man-hater, nope, I am just realistic. I equally see many women profiles with provocative pictures that would almost look suitable for an escort site.
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