Post: #26

(06-30-2012 03:23 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 01:40 PM)Vicious Wrote:  So is everyone moving to Canada again? Which is quite an odd retort to health care reform in US, considering their well established welfare system.

When George W Bush started the war in Iraq, Liberals wanted to go to Canada because it had a reputation of being less war friendly. And because Canada is more Socialist.

When Obamacare gets the green light from the Supreme Court, dumb Conservatives don't realize why Liberals wanted to go to Canada, but they try to mimic how Liberals reacted when they were frustrated with Government without realizing why Liberals chose Canada.

It goes along with the talking points the Conservatives are used to spouting. They don't know why they're saying it, but they'll still say it, no matter how dumb it sounds.

Honest question for everyone:

Has anyone actually ever met a conservative that was cool person?

As in, "f*ck, that conservative guy is mad cool. He puffs mad weed, good fighter, dresses razor sharp, and swoops massive amounts of girls. And an all around cool cat too."

I am sure at least one must exist somewhere, but I have yet to meet one.

Post: #27

I haven't. I'm no liberal, but I've never met a cool conservative.

Post: #28

The coolest people I know are conservative, perhaps you guys run in small circles?

Post: #29

Quote:Has anyone actually ever met a conservative that was cool person?

Military guys.

Post: #30

(06-30-2012 03:36 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Honest question for everyone:

Has anyone actually ever met a conservative that was cool person?

As in, "f*ck, that conservative guy is mad cool. He puffs mad weed, good fighter, dresses razor sharp, and swoops massive amounts of girls. And an all around cool cat too."

I am sure at least one must exist somewhere, but I have yet to meet one.

I met tom Selleck a few times when I was younger. I believe he is a big Republican supporter. He was cool. Other than him, I can't think of many.

Aloha!

Post: #31

Two of the coolest guys I know are super conservatives. They are brothers and really into bodybuilding and fitness and guns and stuff. Both are extremely disciplined and very polite but charismatic individuals. Could get any girl they wanted. When they walk around in public, bishes heads turn and follow them. They are Marines. Very inspiring. I really look up to those guys.

Even the guys that used to party the most at my University were conservatives.

I've never met a cool Liberal. Ever. Liberals are effeminate out of shape nerds from my personal experience. I live in the South though.

Post: #32

(06-30-2012 04:47 PM)raliv Wrote:  I've never met a cool Liberal. Ever. Liberals are effeminate out of shape nerds from my personal experience. I live in the South though.

It's funny, because I live in the northeast where the Liberals rule, and I'd say a good 70% of them are humorless cocksuckers.


Bring up anything that even slightly violates their PC code and it's the end of the conversation.

Back in law school, a group was talking about Jersey Shore. I dropped a simple comment of "Crazy Guido's" with a smile, and the entire group goes silent.

One guy, the only black guy in the group (since this was law school, him being black gave him automatic authority since blacks are top of the PC-totem pole) spoke to me:

"Um, we don't use those kinds of slurs around here."

"What word? Guido?"

"Yeah."

"But... that's what they call themselves on the show."

"No."

I looked around the group. Everyone was looking down.

"Okay.....! So those cookies in the cafe tasted good!"


And we moved on. But only liberals would give me a hard time with the word guido. Pathetic.


The #1 way I look to see if a guy is cool or not is to see how they handle political discussions.


If a guy can talk politics about any subject no matter the controversy, without getting emotional at all, and even laugh and joke about, then he's already above 90% of people I know in terms of coolness.

So when it comes down to liberals or conservatives? I've argued with tons of conservatives, but only a few times do they resort to name calling or walking out of the room.

Liberals, on the other hand, suck ass. They whine, fight, and bitch until they feel like they "win" the argument.

The only time you'll have difficulties with conservatives is if you start to defend abortion. Then about 95% of the time they'll go crazy.


But most of the time, conservatives embrace free speech and tolerance much more than their liberal cousins. That's just how it is in white America.

Post: #33

(06-30-2012 04:43 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 03:36 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Honest question for everyone:

Has anyone actually ever met a conservative that was cool person?

As in, "f*ck, that conservative guy is mad cool. He puffs mad weed, good fighter, dresses razor sharp, and swoops massive amounts of girls. And an all around cool cat too."

I am sure at least one must exist somewhere, but I have yet to meet one.

I met tom Selleck a few times when I was younger. I believe he is a big Republican supporter. He was cool. Other than him, I can't think of many.

Aloha!

I knew there had to be one.

It's funny, I was racking my brain trying to think of any cool conservative famous people.

Think about it, every great musician, artist, actor, athlete, comedian, rapper are all not conservatives.

It's not like Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin, Andy Warhol, Al Pacino, Bruce Lee, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Chris Rock and Tupac are conservative.

All cool famous people are liberal.

Even the coolest biz people are all liberal.

The only famous people that are conservative suck at things like Ted Nudgent.

Another serious question for everyone:

Have you ever met a conservative that had a good sense of humor?

Like, he was actually funny?

As in, he ever made a funny joke?

I don't think one has ever existed.

Post: #34

I think we are at a point in history where all people should have access to basics- eduction, nutrition, healthcare, a roof over their head.

Once we get that stuff taken care of (and I believe there is enough money and resources, concentrated at this time in the hands of a minority, to do it) then everything else can come into play/debate.

Post: #35

Famous = cool?

Makes zero sense.

Quote:Think about it, every great musician, artist, actor, athlete, comedian, rapper are all not conservatives.

Something like 65% of American actors from 1900-1945 were pretty damn conservative... and those actors were of much higher quality than today's "stars".


And, just to make sure the record is known:

Most of the great philosophers, thinkers, scientists of the past 2000 years have had some combination of:

- Religious
- Racist views
- Sexist views


In fact, none of the great men of history are liked by Liberals... that's why Liberals spend so much time trashing them in the university.

Post: #36

(06-30-2012 05:38 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Famous = cool?

Makes zero sense.

Quote:Think about it, every great musician, artist, actor, athlete, comedian, rapper are all not conservatives.

Something like 65% of American actors from 1900-1945 were pretty damn conservative... and those actors were of much higher quality than today's "stars".


And, just to make sure the record is known:

Most of the great philosophers, thinkers, scientists of the past 2000 years have had some combination of:

- Religious
- Racist views
- Sexist views


In fact, none of the great men of history are liked by Liberals... that's why Liberals spend so much time trashing them in the university.

Please don't confuse the locals with facts.

Post: #37

(06-30-2012 05:38 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Something like 65% of American actors from 1900-1945 were pretty damn conservative

Something like 65.7% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Post: #38

I live in the 8th richest county in the US (Morris County, NJ). There aren't many blacks and the hispanics tend to congregate in the centers of the towns that have a train station (mainly Dover and Morristown). The people that I see on welfare are the young and families wrecked by the depression.

A living wage in Morris County is estimated at $17/hr and the minimum wage is $7.25 (there is talk of raising it to $8.50). To give you an idea of what it's like, I worked a full time job (40 hrs.) at $8/hr. By the time I chased my check ($5 dollar fee) and payed rent to live in a bedroom in a rooming house populated w/ drug addicts ($190), I had enough money left over to get myself a pack of smokes. It wasn't until my ex got a job that we were able to get our heads (barely) above water. In order to eat, I had to fight tooth and nail to get an extra 15 minutes for lunch so I could go to the soup kitchen. That was usually my only meal for the day.

The welfare debate shows the huge disconnect between the poor and the well to do. I once had a brief discussion w/ one of the members of the country club that I caddied at. The price of oil came up, and I made the remark that one of the often overlooked consequences of a rise in oil is the effect that it has on food prices. His response to me was "most people only spend 10% of their disposable income on food". I kept my mouth shut despite wanting to bring some reality to him. This was shortly before the shit hit the fan and over the winter 12 members cancelled their membership (boo hoo).

Are there people out there that abuse the system? Yes, I've seen it myself. However, they are a very small minority (heh) compared to everyone that utilizes the system.

Post: #39

I don't go around asking people about their political views. I can't stand people who are liberal freaks and also republican douchebags. If you're cool, you're cool. Just don't start preaching and ranting about stuff around me.

I've met quite a few annoying liberal hipster types who are quick to judge you if you don't agree with one of their views. Exactly like Samseau said earlier in the thread. They try to act like they're so anti racist, want to use correct pc terms and all that shit. Those motherfuckers seem to be more close minded than most people out there and aren't cool at all.

Post: #40

(06-30-2012 05:38 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Something like 65% of American actors from 1900-1945 were pretty damn conservative... and those actors were of much higher quality than today's "stars".

I'm not deep like you guys, but from 1900 to 1945 wasn't what is considered conservative today liberal then, and vice versa?

For example, if you wanted prohibition, you were a liberal?

Or a guy like Strom Thurmond, wasn't he a Democrat during those years?

Maybe I'm wrong.

Aloha!

Post: #41

Ever heard of the "red scare"? The "conservatives" were accusing lot's of people in Hollywood of being communists, back then being labeled a "communist" was enough to ruin a persons' career, let alone his whole life, many actors in Hollywood pretended to be conservative, as opposed to be exposed to the "communist witch hunt."

IMO there are douchey liberals as well as asshole conservatives. Think about it though, you guys really want a country run by a bunch of Rush Limbaughs, Sean Hannitys, and Bill O'Reilys? How cool are those guys?

Maybe I'm a bit different than you guys, but liberal to me, means I can go to the Dr get an RX for medical marijuana, then stroll on over to the "club" to buy some green. Can you conservatives do that in Georgia, or do only "liberal, cocksucking faggots " smoke weed? Also, how cool would your conservative politics be if they banned abortion for women, what are you going to do when you bust a nut in some club whore when your drunk as fuck, she tracks you down a month later, but nope no abortion possible? How cool would that be?

Where were all the conservatives when George W Bush was running the country into the ground, you weren't very vocal in your criticism. As soon as the "first black President" takes over the mess, then all of a sudden you find your voice... Seems like a bit of laden racism if you ask me.

You really think the country is better off with Mitt Romney, the Mormon? How cool are Mormons?...

I guess they are pretty cool, they wear special underwear, can't drink caffenine, don't swear, don't smoke weed, or drink alcohol, and God forbid they have sex before marriage, or really sex for pleasure or fun... They sound really fucking cool man!!!

Post: #42

(06-30-2012 03:36 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Has anyone actually ever met a conservative that was cool person?

No, and I have a lot of conservative friends and worked for a Republican U.S. Senator.

Lots of them are "good guys" or "solid," but they aren't cool.

VERY conventional. Think Khakis, dad jeans, and church.

Hell, look at William F. Buckley and George Will. Excellent, thought-provoking writers. But cool? No way.

Post: #43

Joey Ramone is a punk legend and was a Republican conservative.

Post: #44

(06-30-2012 10:44 PM)houston Wrote:  Joey Ramone is a punk legend and was a Republican conservative.

Johnny Ramone is the conservative. Joey was pretty liberal. As a matter of fact, Johnny stole Joey's girlfriend and married her. Joey wrote a song about it called, "The KKK Took My Baby Away."

Post: #45

(06-30-2012 05:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  But most of the time, conservatives embrace free speech and tolerance much more than their liberal cousins. That's just how it is in white America.

The only people who've ever told me I was going to burn in hell were ardent American conservatives. So much for tolerance.

Post: #46

(06-30-2012 03:23 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 01:40 PM)Vicious Wrote:  So is everyone moving to Canada again? Which is quite an odd retort to health care reform in US, considering their well established welfare system.

When George W Bush started the war in Iraq, Liberals wanted to go to Canada because it had a reputation of being less war friendly. And because Canada is more Socialist.

When Obamacare gets the green light from the Supreme Court, dumb Conservatives don't realize why Liberals wanted to go to Canada, but they try to mimic how Liberals reacted when they were frustrated with Government without realizing why Liberals chose Canada.

It goes along with the talking points the Conservatives are used to spouting. They don't know why they're saying it, but they'll still say it, no matter how dumb it sounds.

Both sides get emotional and say things like "I will move to XYZ."

Realistically though the majority of people on both sides would never leave as they love it here too much.

In terms of conservatives saying "I will leave and go to XYZ" some have said Canada not because of the Canadian health care system but because Canada has a healthier economy then the United States. Several conservatives have said they will go to China/Asia likewise because of better economic conditions like Steve Wynn. Economics is often their motivation.

Post: #47

So we got two cool republicans/conservatives in the history of the world:

Tom Selleck
Joey Ramone

That is actually two more than I thought would have ever existed.

Has there ever been a funny conservative?

Ever?

Post: #48

There is nothing more tedious and surer sign of ignorance, low intelligence and immaturity than people who reduce politics to two positions and than say "everyone" who isn't in "their" simplistic category isn't "cool" or "kick ass" or "totally bitching." If you haven't outgrown these thoughts by the time you get a high school diploma, maybe politics isn't your thing and you should stick to other topics.

Post: #49

(07-01-2012 10:53 AM)Lemmo Wrote:  There is nothing more tedious and surer sign of ignorance, low intelligence and immaturity than people who reduce politics to two positions and than say "everyone" who isn't in "their" simplistic category isn't "cool" or "kick ass" or "totally bitching." If you haven't outgrown these thoughts by the time you get a high school diploma, maybe politics isn't your thing and you should stick to other topics.

So we still have a total of two.

Post: #50

(07-01-2012 10:17 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  So we got two cool republicans/conservatives in the history of the world:

Tom Selleck
Joey Ramone

That is actually two more than I thought would have ever existed.

Has there ever been a funny conservative?

Ever?

Dennis Miller. G, aren't you against big government and especially stupid laws against drinking and smoking (I am too) in California? These dumb laws are more prevalent in Canada and the UK, and I associate them with big government, nanny state liberal politics.