Post: #251

The first time i was in Montreal in 2007 the situation was not so desperate like today.

The (hot) girls was still opened up for date or ONS, and if you had enough style and decent looking sometimes the girls in party opened you and show interest, i remember i had a good time in clubs like 747 attitude, clubs in Crescent and Stanley, the atmosphere was really enjoyable and plenty of hot girls everywhere.

But when i coming back in 2011 everything has changed, i was walking the Saturday night around clubs in Saint Laurent, and i noticed high bitch shield, groups of immigrants fighting against each other, the french immigrants infested the city, anti arabs climate (justify when you pay attention about the bad behaviour of some), hustler, pimps and scammer around strip club and many more.

I remember in 2007 the people taking care about bum in street, everybody giving some coins, and in 2011 the same people looking the same bum with rudeness and scornfully.

An evolution ? maybe
In worst ? definitely

Post: #252

RE: APT 200
With Apt 200 they have a hard door, similar to places in NYC or Vegas, this should be common knowledge now. You won't get in with your boys if you have no women with you (or not looking or making it vocal you intended to spend big $). APT 200 you have to go solo and a bit early, I have no trouble getting in that way. They open at 5-7pm almost every day, so no excuse not to go there early and warm up the staff if need be to set up the night for later on.

The only way you get in with all your boys to APT 200 is if you're good with the SaintWoods crew and the Zach dude that runs it. All his goonies get into there in packs all the time at the Montreal and Toronto locations. If you dress a certain way with street style and/or fucboii style you can fool the door people into thinking you are part of the goonies squad and they will let you and your boys in. I have been the only one of my friends to crack the APT 200 door; I try to tell them all of this but none of them listen and learn the hard way standing in line just to get rejected.

(12-25-2016 05:12 AM)Rekkd Wrote:  Love how the highlight of Kosko's post was a Lebanese girl (most probably was a low quality since Lebanese girls don't leave with strangers) and not a Quebecois. I've been to a lot of clubs here and never seem to see girls going home with anyone. However, yes guys approach like there's no tomorrow, younger girls get drunk and start making out with anyone and after 1am its mission impossible.

Beirut your friends probably have beautiful girlfriends but I'm pretty sure not Quebecois. Even if, then I'm guessing filthy rich, bad boys with top tier looks or strong social circles. However, Arabs and Quebecois are rarely seen in the same social circles.

Quebec is known to be the most racist Province, so I'm not making up shit when I say its tough for a guy like me to get a Quebecois girl.

I find it offensive you accuse me of attempting to dick gutter rats. If a girl is on my dick and I am working on her it is because she is hot. What is your definition of low quality? Do you view her of lesser quality if she goes home with random men? If so.... what do you intended to do when you meet girls in the bars at night?

Get off the cross man we need the wood.

Re-read your post; the butthurt is plenty. You trash on a Leb girls as being trash for entertaining the prospects of a hookup, but you go out at night and try to score hookups with girls? Do you not see how silly you sound.

Lebanese was my first ever Middle Earth flag, maybe it was a Pali girl I forget, but it is silly to say they don't fuck strangers for ONS when many men can vouch for getting their stick inside one. The classic rule is this: just because you ain't fucking them does not mean that somebody else isn't. This idea in 2016 of the chaste girl is stupid. If she is chaste like that, she is low-key, not out, or chilling at a hookah bar. I know girls like this and they still even fall prey to random romps.

For a while, I tried to game a low-key Asian girl, and her vibe way too unorthodox for me. She was chill, but I couldn't crack it. Does not mean that the next man didn't, he did, and she is dating him now; it happens, but it underlines the fact that every girl is open for service, man if you know how to game her right. If she is out in the bars and making out and being like any other girl, then she is just like any other girl, game accordingly.

I just don't understand that mindset. I don't think I am that advanced at the game here, but I find it troubling when dudes can't connect simple dots and are not openly saying they are newbies. This shows other things that are not being disclosed. Becuase your comments ar way out of left field and are hypocritical and silly IMO.

At folks who draw ire from my report Yeah my reality does differ from yours because I don't walk around with some weird race complex when I go out.

My venues were all over the place and not ideal in retrospect. I made strategic errors on my first night in picking Mme Lee as it was dead (Bartender and bouncers told me that Saturday is their busy night, not Friday). I then attempted Ecole Prive which had a line. When I got back onto strolling up St Laurant to find a venue I went into the first place that had hot girls milling outside and a small line. This resulted in me strolling randomly into Rouge I believe it was called which was somewhat ratchet. At this point it was late, and I was purely there to hunt. I made as many approaches as could but couldn't get any traction aside from some milf who was hounding me, but I wasn't feeling it. Towards the end, some drunk bitch was all over me, but she was drunk and gross. I am sure at the start of the night she was hot as hell, she wasn't ugly, but the freefall of her night turned her into a sloppy drunken mess. I have no patience or desire for sloppy broads like that. I guess that was one rejection too many or whatever as she started crying not so soon after, what a mess.

Night two based on the mistakes of night one I didn't want to gamble on anything. I came to try and crack MTL, so I went to the venue literally across the street from me which was Musique which got bad reviews on RVF. I was hesitant, but strategically I felt it would be wise due to my logistics and I took the gamble. I remember from my previous night it was lined up there early, so I assumed the same. I got there early and much to no line.

The crowd peaked early, but it never got crazy packed in there. There were enough pretty women in there, and everybody liked my outfit, so it made approaching easy. I started the best way I could to make my rounds on girls coming up to the bar and was having luke warm results. Now what is a weak point of my game is I get tunnel vision for girls that I want to fuck vs. girls that I would fuck. If a girl comes along who is 'my type' I get into stealth war mode and try to do what I can to approach. Three girls that night fit that profile. One was the Leb girl; another was some smoky white girl (I don't know what her background was, likely French), the other was a sexy mixed black girl who was very petite and was a jazz/ballet dancer. I forgot about the rest of the broads one I locked on those three and when I was able to approach all of them my lead got strongest with the Leb girl. But once that Leb girl lead flamed out the place thinned out, all the girls that were making out not long ago were all gone with dudes. This is very easy to notice base in Montreal women still go out with their girlfriends mostly. In Toronto, you get mixed groups almost always, not the case there. So if one girl leaves and there is 3 other girls and one has a dude on her arm, it could be her BF, but if one of her friends is still attempting to mother hen and cockblock then odds are it is not.

I don't know what glasses you have on, but I see people makeout and leaving in Montreal anytime I am there. I am from Real Canada the "ROC" (this is typically anything, not Quebec, Southern Ontario which is USA lite to the rest of Canada, Maritimes) where that shit happens all the time. It does not happen in Toronto that often, I know what my eyes saw and I know I will have other RVF members back me up because I just keep it real like that in what I say.

Paralysis by overanalysis was what you could call my weekend. I had likely 15 places on stand-by by either guestlist, cheap tickets, whatever. What happened me was time and distance. I originally intended to go to MTL for the Red Bull Festival, but their after party was too far out and it is hard to navigate time and distance with multiple venues.

With what I know now about the speed needed to approach during the early segment of the night I now know to start my night early at the Resturants when they are transitioning to lounges for the night. This is a good way to talk up women as they will also venue change to other places after food and drinks, and you can use that as a jump point for the night.

I stress on the speed aspect because if you ain't approaching other men will be and they will all have varying levels of the game. Dudes with zero game who just go up and hump bitches legs; or contrast to dudes who are trying to get some swift and good talk in. She is either going to get swooped or annoyed. The levels of game there are all over. Toronto dudes are so much more shy that they will rarely attempt shitty game and then you are left with a pack of wolves of dudes with basic levels or advanced levels of game fighting for insufferable women.

But the dudes with bad game who still have the balls to approach, this is part of the reason why clubs and big bars have not been my thing lately. I noticed this in Vegas as well at the big clubs with so much shitty game everywhere it makes the whole environment more tense and as I mentioned you have to get in there quick because the girl is going to get swooped or annoyed. Vegas was all shitty game or dudes with big bankroll. For a dude in the middle like me with just some decent game but no need for gimmicks or money to throw around it was tough to find a niche in the middle.

Post: #253

When I said low quality, I meant she wasn't attractive. I don't care if she jumps on every cock in the city!

I don't let the race thing hold me back or fuck up my game. Most of my approaches are at Quebecois girls, I also like the ones with tattoos and such. Sexy as fuck these girls, even if i get rejected I go for the next one untill times up.

I also don't like the Arab and Black community here. That's why I plan to leave soon and get what I deserve lol.

Post: #254

What's the spot for daygaming during winter? I imagine Eaton Centre, but is there anywhere else worth hitting up that's indoors?

Going for a short trip, so I'll be hitting it hard daytime, nighttime, and online.

Post: #255

(12-25-2016 07:11 AM)ponzi_scheme Wrote:  The first time i was in Montreal in 2007 the situation was not so desperate like today.

The (hot) girls was still opened up for date or ONS, and if you had enough style and decent looking sometimes the girls in party opened you and show interest, i remember i had a good time in clubs like 747 attitude, clubs in Crescent and Stanley, the atmosphere was really enjoyable and plenty of hot girls everywhere.

But when i coming back in 2011 everything has changed, i was walking the Saturday night around clubs in Saint Laurent, and i noticed high bitch shield, groups of immigrants fighting against each other, the french immigrants infested the city, anti arabs climate (justify when you pay attention about the bad behaviour of some), hustler, pimps and scammer around strip club and many more.

I remember in 2007 the people taking care about bum in street, everybody giving some coins, and in 2011 the same people looking the same bum with rudeness and scornfully.

An evolution ? maybe
In worst ? definitely

Go back now and you will see that MTL is easily the worst city in North america, and please dont say Toronto, Toronto is a heaven comparing to MTL.

Comparing to all the citcies i have been to,this is by far the worst.Never seen a such advantage for girls to guys like i saw here. Girls manage things as they want.

Last night i went out ,I met a white guy coming from Toronto trying to pick up some girls :

-Me (in french) : vas y tente ta chance
-Him : i dont speak french , i came from Toronto
-Me: (start laughting so hard), so you are one of those who beleived that MTL is better than Toronto ?
-Him : Yes, Many people are saying that,the quality is better, but once in club i was surprised how bad the ratio is , never saw that in Toronto, but didnt try yet.
-Me : Ok go on and try ( i was pretty sure he will be rejected but didnt want to tell him)

He tried the two first girls , rejections.
take a break , tried one other , rejection.
Third one (low quality ) , also rejection...

Come back to me(end of the party) :
-at least in Toronto the low or meduim quality girls are easy, here no girl is easy.

That doesnt mean Toronto is easy or good city(i usually hear bad things about Toronto, but still way better than this cockfest city).

Post: #256

(12-25-2016 02:56 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 07:11 AM)ponzi_scheme Wrote:  The first time i was in Montreal in 2007 the situation was not so desperate like today.

The (hot) girls was still opened up for date or ONS, and if you had enough style and decent looking sometimes the girls in party opened you and show interest, i remember i had a good time in clubs like 747 attitude, clubs in Crescent and Stanley, the atmosphere was really enjoyable and plenty of hot girls everywhere.

But when i coming back in 2011 everything has changed, i was walking the Saturday night around clubs in Saint Laurent, and i noticed high bitch shield, groups of immigrants fighting against each other, the french immigrants infested the city, anti arabs climate (justify when you pay attention about the bad behaviour of some), hustler, pimps and scammer around strip club and many more.

I remember in 2007 the people taking care about bum in street, everybody giving some coins, and in 2011 the same people looking the same bum with rudeness and scornfully.

An evolution ? maybe
In worst ? definitely

Go back now and you will see that MTL is easily the worst city in North america, and please dont say Toronto, Toronto is a heaven comparing to MTL.

Comparing to all the citcies i have been to,this is by far the worst.Never seen a such advantage for girls to guys like i saw here. Girls manage things as they want.

Last night i went out ,I met a white guy coming from Toronto trying to pick up some girls :

-Me (in french) : vas y tente ta chance
-Him : i dont speak french , i came from Toronto
-Me: (start laughting so hard), so you are one of those who beleived that MTL is better than Toronto ?
-Him : Yes, Many people are saying that,the quality is better, but once in club i was surprised how bad the ratio is , never saw that in Toronto, but didnt try yet.
-Me : Ok go on and try ( i was pretty sure he will be rejected but didnt want to tell him)

He tried the two first girls , rejections.
take a break , tried one other , rejection.
Third one (low quality ) , also rejection...

Come back to me(end of the party) :
-at least in Toronto the low or meduim quality girls are easy, here no girl is easy.

That doesnt mean Toronto is easy or good city(i usually hear bad things about Toronto, but still way better than this cockfest city).

Shit, men it's really sad Montreal was the city with high quality of life before the massive exode of low educated immigrants

Sometimes i think this city have the same syndrome of Paris,France with constant decrease of quality life

Post: #257

(12-25-2016 04:02 PM)ponzi_scheme Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 02:56 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 07:11 AM)ponzi_scheme Wrote:  The first time i was in Montreal in 2007 the situation was not so desperate like today.

The (hot) girls was still opened up for date or ONS, and if you had enough style and decent looking sometimes the girls in party opened you and show interest, i remember i had a good time in clubs like 747 attitude, clubs in Crescent and Stanley, the atmosphere was really enjoyable and plenty of hot girls everywhere.

But when i coming back in 2011 everything has changed, i was walking the Saturday night around clubs in Saint Laurent, and i noticed high bitch shield, groups of immigrants fighting against each other, the french immigrants infested the city, anti arabs climate (justify when you pay attention about the bad behaviour of some), hustler, pimps and scammer around strip club and many more.

I remember in 2007 the people taking care about bum in street, everybody giving some coins, and in 2011 the same people looking the same bum with rudeness and scornfully.

An evolution ? maybe
In worst ? definitely

Go back now and you will see that MTL is easily the worst city in North america, and please dont say Toronto, Toronto is a heaven comparing to MTL.

Comparing to all the citcies i have been to,this is by far the worst.Never seen a such advantage for girls to guys like i saw here. Girls manage things as they want.

Last night i went out ,I met a white guy coming from Toronto trying to pick up some girls :

-Me (in french) : vas y tente ta chance
-Him : i dont speak french , i came from Toronto
-Me: (start laughting so hard), so you are one of those who beleived that MTL is better than Toronto ?
-Him : Yes, Many people are saying that,the quality is better, but once in club i was surprised how bad the ratio is , never saw that in Toronto, but didnt try yet.
-Me : Ok go on and try ( i was pretty sure he will be rejected but didnt want to tell him)

He tried the two first girls , rejections.
take a break , tried one other , rejection.
Third one (low quality ) , also rejection...

Come back to me(end of the party) :
-at least in Toronto the low or meduim quality girls are easy, here no girl is easy.

That doesnt mean Toronto is easy or good city(i usually hear bad things about Toronto, but still way better than this cockfest city).

Shit, men it's really sad Montreal was the city with high quality of life before the massive exode of low educated immigrants

Sometimes i think this city have the same syndrome of Paris,France with constant decrease of quality life

I lived 3 years in Paris, Montreal have way better immigrants quality than Paris and europe

But the high bitch shield in Montreal i never saw it anywhere.
Girls have strong personnality and so confident (and thats normal when you see thirsty good looking guy who dont find girls here).

At least in Paris, the nightlife is much better(clubs start earlier and close 5) , and you have more options in Paris (more clubs , more bars). Drink in street is allowed..

Post: #258

(12-25-2016 01:29 PM)kosko Wrote:  RE: APT 200
With Apt 200 they have a hard door, similar to places in NYC or Vegas, this should be common knowledge now. You won't get in with your boys if you have no women with you (or not looking or making it vocal you intended to spend big $). APT 200 you have to go solo and a bit early, I have no trouble getting in that way. They open at 5-7pm almost every day, so no excuse not to go there early and warm up the staff if need be to set up the night for later on.

The only way you get in with all your boys to APT 200 is if you're good with the SaintWoods crew and the Zach dude that runs it. All his goonies get into there in packs all the time at the Montreal and Toronto locations. If you dress a certain way with street style and/or fucboii style you can fool the door people into thinking you are part of the goonies squad and they will let you and your boys in. I have been the only one of my friends to crack the APT 200 door; I try to tell them all of this but none of them listen and learn the hard way standing in line just to get rejected.

(12-25-2016 05:12 AM)Rekkd Wrote:  Love how the highlight of Kosko's post was a Lebanese girl (most probably was a low quality since Lebanese girls don't leave with strangers) and not a Quebecois. I've been to a lot of clubs here and never seem to see girls going home with anyone. However, yes guys approach like there's no tomorrow, younger girls get drunk and start making out with anyone and after 1am its mission impossible.

Beirut your friends probably have beautiful girlfriends but I'm pretty sure not Quebecois. Even if, then I'm guessing filthy rich, bad boys with top tier looks or strong social circles. However, Arabs and Quebecois are rarely seen in the same social circles.

Quebec is known to be the most racist Province, so I'm not making up shit when I say its tough for a guy like me to get a Quebecois girl.

I find it offensive you accuse me of attempting to dick gutter rats. If a girl is on my dick and I am working on her it is because she is hot. What is your definition of low quality? Do you view her of lesser quality if she goes home with random men? If so.... what do you intended to do when you meet girls in the bars at night?

Get off the cross man we need the wood.

Re-read your post; the butthurt is plenty. You trash on a Leb girls as being trash for entertaining the prospects of a hookup, but you go out at night and try to score hookups with girls? Do you not see how silly you sound.

Lebanese was my first ever Middle Earth flag, maybe it was a Pali girl I forget, but it is silly to say they don't fuck strangers for ONS when many men can vouch for getting their stick inside one. The classic rule is this: just because you ain't fucking them does not mean that somebody else isn't. This idea in 2016 of the chaste girl is stupid. If she is chaste like that, she is low-key, not out, or chilling at a hookah bar. I know girls like this and they still even fall prey to random romps.

For a while, I tried to game a low-key Asian girl, and her vibe way too unorthodox for me. She was chill, but I couldn't crack it. Does not mean that the next man didn't, he did, and she is dating him now; it happens, but it underlines the fact that every girl is open for service, man if you know how to game her right. If she is out in the bars and making out and being like any other girl, then she is just like any other girl, game accordingly.

I just don't understand that mindset. I don't think I am that advanced at the game here, but I find it troubling when dudes can't connect simple dots and are not openly saying they are newbies. This shows other things that are not being disclosed. Becuase your comments ar way out of left field and are hypocritical and silly IMO.

At folks who draw ire from my report Yeah my reality does differ from yours because I don't walk around with some weird race complex when I go out.

My venues were all over the place and not ideal in retrospect. I made strategic errors on my first night in picking Mme Lee as it was dead (Bartender and bouncers told me that Saturday is their busy night, not Friday). I then attempted Ecole Prive which had a line. When I got back onto strolling up St Laurant to find a venue I went into the first place that had hot girls milling outside and a small line. This resulted in me strolling randomly into Rouge I believe it was called which was somewhat ratchet. At this point it was late, and I was purely there to hunt. I made as many approaches as could but couldn't get any traction aside from some milf who was hounding me, but I wasn't feeling it. Towards the end, some drunk bitch was all over me, but she was drunk and gross. I am sure at the start of the night she was hot as hell, she wasn't ugly, but the freefall of her night turned her into a sloppy drunken mess. I have no patience or desire for sloppy broads like that. I guess that was one rejection too many or whatever as she started crying not so soon after, what a mess.

Night two based on the mistakes of night one I didn't want to gamble on anything. I came to try and crack MTL, so I went to the venue literally across the street from me which was Musique which got bad reviews on RVF. I was hesitant, but strategically I felt it would be wise due to my logistics and I took the gamble. I remember from my previous night it was lined up there early, so I assumed the same. I got there early and much to no line.

The crowd peaked early, but it never got crazy packed in there. There were enough pretty women in there, and everybody liked my outfit, so it made approaching easy. I started the best way I could to make my rounds on girls coming up to the bar and was having luke warm results. Now what is a weak point of my game is I get tunnel vision for girls that I want to fuck vs. girls that I would fuck. If a girl comes along who is 'my type' I get into stealth war mode and try to do what I can to approach. Three girls that night fit that profile. One was the Leb girl; another was some smoky white girl (I don't know what her background was, likely French), the other was a sexy mixed black girl who was very petite and was a jazz/ballet dancer. I forgot about the rest of the broads one I locked on those three and when I was able to approach all of them my lead got strongest with the Leb girl. But once that Leb girl lead flamed out the place thinned out, all the girls that were making out not long ago were all gone with dudes. This is very easy to notice base in Montreal women still go out with their girlfriends mostly. In Toronto, you get mixed groups almost always, not the case there. So if one girl leaves and there is 3 other girls and one has a dude on her arm, it could be her BF, but if one of her friends is still attempting to mother hen and cockblock then odds are it is not.

I don't know what glasses you have on, but I see people makeout and leaving in Montreal anytime I am there. I am from Real Canada the "ROC" (this is typically anything, not Quebec, Southern Ontario which is USA lite to the rest of Canada, Maritimes) where that shit happens all the time. It does not happen in Toronto that often, I know what my eyes saw and I know I will have other RVF members back me up because I just keep it real like that in what I say.

Paralysis by overanalysis was what you could call my weekend. I had likely 15 places on stand-by by either guestlist, cheap tickets, whatever. What happened me was time and distance. I originally intended to go to MTL for the Red Bull Festival, but their after party was too far out and it is hard to navigate time and distance with multiple venues.

With what I know now about the speed needed to approach during the early segment of the night I now know to start my night early at the Resturants when they are transitioning to lounges for the night. This is a good way to talk up women as they will also venue change to other places after food and drinks, and you can use that as a jump point for the night.

I stress on the speed aspect because if you ain't approaching other men will be and they will all have varying levels of the game. Dudes with zero game who just go up and hump bitches legs; or contrast to dudes who are trying to get some swift and good talk in. She is either going to get swooped or annoyed. The levels of game there are all over. Toronto dudes are so much more shy that they will rarely attempt shitty game and then you are left with a pack of wolves of dudes with basic levels or advanced levels of game fighting for insufferable women.

But the dudes with bad game who still have the balls to approach, this is part of the reason why clubs and big bars have not been my thing lately. I noticed this in Vegas as well at the big clubs with so much shitty game everywhere it makes the whole environment more tense and as I mentioned you have to get in there quick because the girl is going to get swooped or annoyed. Vegas was all shitty game or dudes with big bankroll. For a dude in the middle like me with just some decent game but no need for gimmicks or money to throw around it was tough to find a niche in the middle.

Sounds like a lost cause unless, you are, like you say, super high energy and aggressive in night game.

Kosko, did you (or anyone else here for that matter) try Day game ? How's the day game in Montreal?

Post: #259

(12-25-2016 05:24 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 01:29 PM)kosko Wrote:  RE: APT 200
With Apt 200 they have a hard door, similar to places in NYC or Vegas, this should be common knowledge now. You won't get in with your boys if you have no women with you (or not looking or making it vocal you intended to spend big $). APT 200 you have to go solo and a bit early, I have no trouble getting in that way. They open at 5-7pm almost every day, so no excuse not to go there early and warm up the staff if need be to set up the night for later on.

The only way you get in with all your boys to APT 200 is if you're good with the SaintWoods crew and the Zach dude that runs it. All his goonies get into there in packs all the time at the Montreal and Toronto locations. If you dress a certain way with street style and/or fucboii style you can fool the door people into thinking you are part of the goonies squad and they will let you and your boys in. I have been the only one of my friends to crack the APT 200 door; I try to tell them all of this but none of them listen and learn the hard way standing in line just to get rejected.

(12-25-2016 05:12 AM)Rekkd Wrote:  Love how the highlight of Kosko's post was a Lebanese girl (most probably was a low quality since Lebanese girls don't leave with strangers) and not a Quebecois. I've been to a lot of clubs here and never seem to see girls going home with anyone. However, yes guys approach like there's no tomorrow, younger girls get drunk and start making out with anyone and after 1am its mission impossible.

Beirut your friends probably have beautiful girlfriends but I'm pretty sure not Quebecois. Even if, then I'm guessing filthy rich, bad boys with top tier looks or strong social circles. However, Arabs and Quebecois are rarely seen in the same social circles.

Quebec is known to be the most racist Province, so I'm not making up shit when I say its tough for a guy like me to get a Quebecois girl.

I find it offensive you accuse me of attempting to dick gutter rats. If a girl is on my dick and I am working on her it is because she is hot. What is your definition of low quality? Do you view her of lesser quality if she goes home with random men? If so.... what do you intended to do when you meet girls in the bars at night?

Get off the cross man we need the wood.

Re-read your post; the butthurt is plenty. You trash on a Leb girls as being trash for entertaining the prospects of a hookup, but you go out at night and try to score hookups with girls? Do you not see how silly you sound.

Lebanese was my first ever Middle Earth flag, maybe it was a Pali girl I forget, but it is silly to say they don't fuck strangers for ONS when many men can vouch for getting their stick inside one. The classic rule is this: just because you ain't fucking them does not mean that somebody else isn't. This idea in 2016 of the chaste girl is stupid. If she is chaste like that, she is low-key, not out, or chilling at a hookah bar. I know girls like this and they still even fall prey to random romps.

For a while, I tried to game a low-key Asian girl, and her vibe way too unorthodox for me. She was chill, but I couldn't crack it. Does not mean that the next man didn't, he did, and she is dating him now; it happens, but it underlines the fact that every girl is open for service, man if you know how to game her right. If she is out in the bars and making out and being like any other girl, then she is just like any other girl, game accordingly.

I just don't understand that mindset. I don't think I am that advanced at the game here, but I find it troubling when dudes can't connect simple dots and are not openly saying they are newbies. This shows other things that are not being disclosed. Becuase your comments ar way out of left field and are hypocritical and silly IMO.

At folks who draw ire from my report Yeah my reality does differ from yours because I don't walk around with some weird race complex when I go out.

My venues were all over the place and not ideal in retrospect. I made strategic errors on my first night in picking Mme Lee as it was dead (Bartender and bouncers told me that Saturday is their busy night, not Friday). I then attempted Ecole Prive which had a line. When I got back onto strolling up St Laurant to find a venue I went into the first place that had hot girls milling outside and a small line. This resulted in me strolling randomly into Rouge I believe it was called which was somewhat ratchet. At this point it was late, and I was purely there to hunt. I made as many approaches as could but couldn't get any traction aside from some milf who was hounding me, but I wasn't feeling it. Towards the end, some drunk bitch was all over me, but she was drunk and gross. I am sure at the start of the night she was hot as hell, she wasn't ugly, but the freefall of her night turned her into a sloppy drunken mess. I have no patience or desire for sloppy broads like that. I guess that was one rejection too many or whatever as she started crying not so soon after, what a mess.

Night two based on the mistakes of night one I didn't want to gamble on anything. I came to try and crack MTL, so I went to the venue literally across the street from me which was Musique which got bad reviews on RVF. I was hesitant, but strategically I felt it would be wise due to my logistics and I took the gamble. I remember from my previous night it was lined up there early, so I assumed the same. I got there early and much to no line.

The crowd peaked early, but it never got crazy packed in there. There were enough pretty women in there, and everybody liked my outfit, so it made approaching easy. I started the best way I could to make my rounds on girls coming up to the bar and was having luke warm results. Now what is a weak point of my game is I get tunnel vision for girls that I want to fuck vs. girls that I would fuck. If a girl comes along who is 'my type' I get into stealth war mode and try to do what I can to approach. Three girls that night fit that profile. One was the Leb girl; another was some smoky white girl (I don't know what her background was, likely French), the other was a sexy mixed black girl who was very petite and was a jazz/ballet dancer. I forgot about the rest of the broads one I locked on those three and when I was able to approach all of them my lead got strongest with the Leb girl. But once that Leb girl lead flamed out the place thinned out, all the girls that were making out not long ago were all gone with dudes. This is very easy to notice base in Montreal women still go out with their girlfriends mostly. In Toronto, you get mixed groups almost always, not the case there. So if one girl leaves and there is 3 other girls and one has a dude on her arm, it could be her BF, but if one of her friends is still attempting to mother hen and cockblock then odds are it is not.

I don't know what glasses you have on, but I see people makeout and leaving in Montreal anytime I am there. I am from Real Canada the "ROC" (this is typically anything, not Quebec, Southern Ontario which is USA lite to the rest of Canada, Maritimes) where that shit happens all the time. It does not happen in Toronto that often, I know what my eyes saw and I know I will have other RVF members back me up because I just keep it real like that in what I say.

Paralysis by overanalysis was what you could call my weekend. I had likely 15 places on stand-by by either guestlist, cheap tickets, whatever. What happened me was time and distance. I originally intended to go to MTL for the Red Bull Festival, but their after party was too far out and it is hard to navigate time and distance with multiple venues.

With what I know now about the speed needed to approach during the early segment of the night I now know to start my night early at the Resturants when they are transitioning to lounges for the night. This is a good way to talk up women as they will also venue change to other places after food and drinks, and you can use that as a jump point for the night.

I stress on the speed aspect because if you ain't approaching other men will be and they will all have varying levels of the game. Dudes with zero game who just go up and hump bitches legs; or contrast to dudes who are trying to get some swift and good talk in. She is either going to get swooped or annoyed. The levels of game there are all over. Toronto dudes are so much more shy that they will rarely attempt shitty game and then you are left with a pack of wolves of dudes with basic levels or advanced levels of game fighting for insufferable women.

But the dudes with bad game who still have the balls to approach, this is part of the reason why clubs and big bars have not been my thing lately. I noticed this in Vegas as well at the big clubs with so much shitty game everywhere it makes the whole environment more tense and as I mentioned you have to get in there quick because the girl is going to get swooped or annoyed. Vegas was all shitty game or dudes with big bankroll. For a dude in the middle like me with just some decent game but no need for gimmicks or money to throw around it was tough to find a niche in the middle.

Sounds like a lost cause unless, you are, like you say, super high energy and aggressive in night game.

Kosko, did you (or anyone else here for that matter) try Day game ? How's the day game in Montreal?

Same as night game or even worst , unless you get a tourist lost here, your chances with a quebecoise are so low Unless you like black girls.

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You guys don't have to keep quoting the whole thing every time. I wouldn't write of day game, I believe it's better but I don't do it.

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went out with the montreal boys tonight again..

One leb guy has a hot local gf that he met in college

Other has a cute canadian transplant gf who i have no idea how they met.

3rd looks like a silly guido and pulls 5-6s in clubs with idiotic but aggressive game (as i had the misfortune of witnessing tonight)

I told them i have a friend whos struggling there and first two just said its a numbers game and has to keep ploughing and the 3rd idiot just said that whoever doesnt score in Montreal are losers then proceeded to embarrass us by getting repeatedly blown off.

So basically i have nothing useful to tell you guys.

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(12-25-2016 05:24 PM)robreke Wrote:  Kosko, did you (or anyone else here for that matter) try Day game ? How's the day game in Montreal?

It was in my plans, but I didn't make the timelines work. I don't typically Day Game, but I wanted to try it in MTL, specifically on the Friday my plan was to go suited up and do mid afternoon/Happy Hour game downtown. I got held up running around town doing errands I had planned that my time window got shot and I had to then get ready for the night out.

The first time I was in MTL I had good traction being hungover strolling around town just talking to girls. I just played dumb saying I just moved there and many were open to chill a chat for a bit.

The weather is critical though a when I was there last time it was cold and rainy almost each day I was there. It did not produce lots of life on the streets and girls were closed up and bundled up.

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Beirut I don't know how to comment but most of the things we complained about was night game. Anyways, every person has a different experience yet most Arabs I know here complain about not getting local pussy.

Anyways you should come visit and see for yourself. I'm planning to leave and never come back once I get the chance.

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Here is a picture I took of Muzique. You can look at the ratio.

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^^^ You should resize that picture as the size is quite large.

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(12-25-2016 02:26 PM)Saladin Wrote:  What's the spot for daygaming during winter? I imagine Eaton Centre, but is there anywhere else worth hitting up that's indoors?

Going for a short trip, so I'll be hitting it hard daytime, nighttime, and online.

There is a network of underground tunnels around downtown that connect shopping areas and other commercial buildings. Some of the locals on this board should be able to elaborate more.

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(12-25-2016 08:01 PM)Beirut Wrote:  went out with the montreal boys tonight again..

One leb guy has a hot local gf that he met in college

Other has a cute canadian transplant gf who i have no idea how they met.

3rd looks like a silly guido and pulls 5-6s in clubs with idiotic but aggressive game (as i had the misfortune of witnessing tonight)

I told them i have a friend whos struggling there and first two just said its a numbers game and has to keep ploughing and the 3rd idiot just said that whoever doesnt score in Montreal are losers then proceeded to embarrass us by getting repeatedly blown off.

So basically i have nothing useful to tell you guys.

I want to beleive you but i cant , i am seeing leb guys getting rejected all the nights i went out.

May be we dont go to same places, can you tell us which clubs are you talking about ?

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I went to a new palce in Montreal on December 23rd, highest quality of girls I've seen in a club so far, that was reminicent of the good times of Appartement 200 when it just opened. Classy girls in skimpy dresses and high heels, also a mix of younger girls too. The rations got bad later.

I didn't approach myself because I'm in a relationship but got approached by an anglo chick from Mcgill that can speak french, teacher there. Hot girl but never saw her again as they disappeared when the night got worst.

If anyone wants the name of this place I will PM it as it seems it's going to be a gold mine for some time. Girls were hotter than what I remember in Paris, I think there was a modeling agency christmas party or somethingé

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(12-25-2016 02:56 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  Come back to me(end of the party) :
-at least in Toronto the low or meduim quality girls are easy, here no girl is easy.

That doesnt mean Toronto is easy or good city(i usually hear bad things about Toronto, but still way better than this cockfest city).

It is obvious you HATE Montreal, so no point in debating the point to ad nauseam.

To say low or medium girls in Toronto are easy, is incorrect. I generally do not spend time with these sort of women, but I know dudes who are doing way too much to keep these sort of chicks.

Montreal has way less fat girls than Toronto, that was pretty obvious in my last trip.

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(07-08-2016 03:18 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  So in montreal , either you have you own sociale circle or you just go to Watch those beautiful girls. ( how can this city be fun ? )

Is Montreal really that hard if you don't have a social circle there? I'm thinking about moving there but keep thinking of that. I'm kinda a loner and keep to myself but might try to be more outgoing once I get there or is it pointless cause people just stick to their own social circles?

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Just wrapped up my trip to Montreal...
overrated = no... Weird = yes... Would I go again? = fuck yes but with French lessons

ask any montrealian/Quebecois and they will say 'every under 30 speaks english'.. I personally found most significantly struggled and would just get frustrated.. Which worked against me..
The girls also run in packs of soy boy gate keepers, which which will actively cock block you if you approach.. One night I thought I might finally get my Quebecois flag. A bloke, about half my size who was friends with the girl would speak to me in English and talk up how much she was in to me, but he would then talk absolute shit about me in French to her. I unfortunately found out too late to correct the perception and ended up going home, dick in my hand.
However, if you find any other Canadians.. Especially if you've got an English /Australian/Kiwi accent.. You can't fuck up.. I got a Vancouver and Torontoian flag in the same day..

Night game, avoid the nightclubs unless you've got drugs on.. This is where ever thirsty cunt is on the prowl and bitch guard will be on +10.. Head to casual pubs and bars.. St Laurent and St Denis for me had the best responses.
However.. Does not matter where you are.. Prepare to run the soy boy gauntlet to even get a hope of getting a conversation out of a Quebecois girl..

Day game.. I found picnik electric is THE day game.. The girls are usually turnt, drunk and there's just something about excess sunlight and girls being open for businesses.. I had the most consistent positive responses from the Quebecois here...

The one thing I've noticed, for a city bathed in the feminist cancer.. The girls are thirsting for masculine men.. Masculine men who can speak French...

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Piknik electronic is fun indeed for daygame