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I've been mucking around with the full gamut of web dev skillsets for a while-server side, mySQL, and front end. I'm a long way from being proficient but I feel I have the gist of it down. I'm on a professional career track so my aim is not to land a web dev job, but I do have a business idea that relates to my field and I want to couple further learning to the creation of the platform I would need for my potential business.

I've been using PHP and was wondering if you guys had suggestions for a good framework for that language. So far I've been working with bare bones PHP/Apache but for the platform I want to build I think it would make more sense to leverage a framework, not just to make the job less daunting but as a natural progression in my programming education.
08-05-2017 12:20 PM
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Back when I was using PHP I used Laravel. I haven't written a single line of PHP since 2015, but glancing around the internet it looks like Laravel is still popular and well regarded.

https://laravel.com
08-05-2017 05:34 PM
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I've heard good things about PHPcake too.

PHP is definitely falling out of favor. But that can be a good thing, as you don't have much competition in terms of jobs. Also Wordpress is PHP, and Wordpress is a huge market.

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08-05-2017 07:14 PM
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(08-01-2017 04:44 PM)weambulance Wrote:  I have a bunch of other resources for C, I'll put together a list at some point soon. Sorry, but I don't have C++ specific resources to recommend. Cuz C++ is shit. Smile Really it's because I simply never use more than a couple C++ features in my code, and I don't use C++ libraries at all. I use a handful of C libraries from trusted developers for things I'm not very good at yet (graphics, for example) and otherwise write my own libraries.

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For anyone interested in learning to code in several languages, there's a good deal right now for a bundle of courses.

Engadget link (no affiliate)

It's basically 150 hours worth of courses valued at over 1500$. For the next 3 days you pay "what you want" (right now 21$ to unlock all courses).

Hope it's useful for someone.
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I've been taking some udemy courses on python for machine learning, AI, and financial analysis. Would definitely recommend, I'm blown away by the possibilities.

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If you want a job right now, learn C#(plenty of demand), PHP and JavaScript (node, react, angular).

Java seems to be harder to get into if its going to be your first job from what I've seen, unless you have very high quality projects(it can be done).

Team Treehouse is great, Pluralsight and Lynda has some great projects too.
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I wouldn't recommend learning PHP - it's been on it's way out for a while especially now that there's so many other modern web development stacks.
09-02-2017 01:13 AM
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Ya I also can't recommend PHP. You're competing with far too many $3/hour Indians.
09-02-2017 01:56 AM
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Huh

PHP is still (arguably) the most popular server-side language for web developers (more than 80% of websites use it). Most full-stack jobs require at least some knowledge of PHP (and that's where the money is at, at least as far as anything web related is concerned). Here in NYC you'd be hard pressed to find a web developer position that doesn't require PHP.

PHP has a solid ecosystem and a huge community behind it; it's also consistently ranked in the top 10 in monthly and annual programming languages rankings (here, here, and here). All major CMS also use it, so the claim that it's on its way out is far from true. There's no better time than now to learn PHP.
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(09-02-2017 10:00 AM)Huey Wrote:  Huh

PHP is still (arguably) the most popular server-side language for web developers (more than 80% of websites use it). Most full-stack jobs require at least some knowledge of PHP (and that's where the money is at, at least as far as anything web related is concerned). Here in NYC you'd be hard pressed to find a web developer position that doesn't require PHP.

PHP has a solid ecosystem and a huge community behind it; it's also consistently ranked in the top 10 in monthly and annual programming languages rankings (here, here, and here). All major CMS also use it, so the claim that it's on its way out is far from true. There's no better time than now to learn PHP.

Django/Flask may be a replacement down the line for those that are fairly adept at Python. But I'd tend to agree PHP is still very much in use today, and is even a decent first language to learn.

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09-02-2017 05:42 PM
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Php is without argue on the decline. Yes there are still tons of jobs for php developers, mainly because companies are maintaining legacy code.

If you were look at the stacks used by startups in the recent years, you will see PHP being a small percentage.

PHP is still valuable to study, but to claim that it is a trending language going forward is false.

JavaScript is probably the most valuable language in terms of web dev for a newbie to pickup. Python is a close second.

Ultimately the problem most beginner's have is the myriad of languages to choose from. And a lot of people get mired in indecision. As a beginner there is nothing more important than understanding the basics: control flow, conditionals, OOP, etc. So if you're at the level where you don't know what you don't know, throw a dart at a board of programming languages and dive into wherever it lands. The concepts you learn will be applicable to any language.

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I don't recommend PHP as a first language unless you already have a project to work on. It's easy to learn and use, which is one of its few but important strengths and why it is still such a widely used language. But unlike most other easy languages, the PHP's brand of ease of use often leads to bad habits and failure to pick up important programming concepts and design techniques. PHP also has a fairly narrow niche. Web content managers, social media platforms, webforum software, and maybe few other things are about it. That accounts for an enormous amount of code, but it's still limited compared to most other languages which have at least a few different major business domains.

You can always learn php later on if you need it.
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London is really good for contracting right now. The uncertainty around brexit has meant companies are going with short-term contract guys over permanent staff, as they can't plan too far in the future. I dunno how long its going to last but things are especially good right now
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In the past I would recommend something like PHP but unless you have experience or land a good gig, like others have said the barrier is too low and you're competing with low paid devs from all over. I may regret saying this but have a look at blockchain smart contract languages like Solidity. If you can show potential clients you know your stuff, you can literally name your own price in a lot of cases. I don't mean complicated stuff either. I'm talking literally copy and paste a token contract with some modifications and make an easy several grand. This may not be the case for long though.
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I've got a C# developer interview tomorrow.

This is without experience and without a degree, all I've done is a 5-6 projects making video games, asp.net websites etc also doing these projects from websites such as Lynda, Pluralsight etc.

Funnily enough, the last time I applied for developer jobs was back in early august almost 2 months ago and they've just recently got back to me now.
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PHP isn't going anywhere. If Ruby, Python, Go, Rust ect. ect. haven't put it out of business it's safe to say that at least for the time being, it's still in very high demand. The trick is not to peg yourself as simply a "PHP Developer". You want to move up the food chain and specialize in frameworks and CMS packages. Being a Zend Developer is far more lucrative and prestigious than PHP Developer. Being able to customize Wordpress, Magento, Joomla installs is far better than just saying you can program in PHP.
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Moment of honesty here. I have an accounting degree (non-CPA), worked corporate accounting/finance for a few years, now for the last 6 years have worked at a small marketing firm where our clients are banks (working with bank data).

I'm sort of stuck right now as a guy with accounting/finance and data experience, but expertise in neither (non-CPA, but my only real expertise is in Excel).

I started learning Python this week. I think adding a language or two (it's amazing how similar they all are) will basically make me job-mobile where I have leverage.

I have a friend of a friend who was at a dead-end job, learned Python with the online resources, and within a year landed a gig.

There are so many more doors in my field once you know a language.

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I had a code academy account years ago...just logged back in after seeing this thread. But it seems all the free courses are gone, except for the HTML one. Are there still any free resources for coding left on the internet?
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(02-23-2018 06:53 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  I had a code academy account years ago...just logged back in after seeing this thread. But it seems all the free courses are gone, except for the HTML one. Are there still any free resources for coding left on the internet?

Derek Banas has free and comprehensive coding videos on YouTube that cover just about any language I've ever known. He's frequently adding content - he's doing a Blender series at the moment.

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(02-23-2018 06:53 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  I had a code academy account years ago...just logged back in after seeing this thread. But it seems all the free courses are gone, except for the HTML one. Are there still any free resources for coding left on the internet?

There's freeCodeCamp. I haven't used it but I've heard good things. The Odin Project is also good. I used it back in 2015 (I haven't used it in its current iteration so I don't know how much has changed) to learn Ruby on Rails so I can vouch for it.

I forgot about Watch and Code. This one is also pretty good. The good thing about it is that it's video-based so you might prefer this one over the others.
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(07-18-2017 09:42 PM)Atomic Wrote:  
(07-18-2017 07:54 PM)expectation Wrote:  Udemy has Python for Data Science and Machine Learning curriculum for 10 USD from 195 USD discount for the next day or two btw. Better cop that before it expires.

Don't be fooled by their marketing. All udemy courses are that price now. They always say 95% off for the next 24 hours or whatever, but the price never changes. I haven't paid more than $10-$15 bucks for a Udemy course in the last year, and that's with courses that have 60+ hours and 300+ videos worth of content.

This would explain why I was able to snatch a course for £11 from them just last week.

Fuck, if it help gets me into software development, I'm not complaining. Give me more.

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Anyone here good with Solidity and need a job?
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I know this is a bit of an impossible question, but which would be the best one to learn: Python or Ruby?
(concerning that it will be my first language, I can spend 4+ hours a day, and that I want to find a remote job with it),

Are there more Ruby jobs than Python?
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