This is gold: http://www.waz.de/staedte/emmerich-rees-...31833.html

To summarize: Rapefugees were moved to a new, somewhat remote residence, they thought it was too remote since they didn't get a cellphone signal, didn't want to get off the bus. Police sweet talked them for hours so they would at least spend the night. The next morning, they went to the nearest town, bought booze, got drunk, acquired steel pipes and then attacked security personnel and smashed windows and furniture at their residence. Police were called and, of course, they proceeded to beat up the police as well (one policeman badly injured).

Of course they were released after checking their identity.

The best bit - the article ends with the sentence "There are now concerns that this incident will lead to hateful messages on social networks". No the fear isn't that violent animals without any moral compass are on the loose, it's that "people might say bad things on the internet".

I discussed this story with several of my former high school classmates. They would still try to defend them or explain it away. Germans are done. They deserve every bit of what they're getting.

Germany is done for - even in the comment section I see some Germans claiming that there are good and bad people on every side. True dat, but when the leading religious ideology that permeates them is pure evil then you are deluding yourself that the same number of people will behave orderly and good.

Either way - as a positive message from the article and many others in Sweden and Finland we can derive:

The safest areas in Western Europe are those without cell reception, far away from public transport and best right in the middle of the countryside or the mountains. Well at least until the chaos spreads out further into full-out open war.

(03-06-2017 08:38 AM)atlant Wrote:  This is gold: http://www.waz.de/staedte/emmerich-rees-...31833.html

To summarize: Rapefugees were moved to a new, somewhat remote residence, they thought it was too remote since they didn't get a cellphone signal, didn't want to get off the bus. Police sweet talked them for hours so they would at least spend the night. The next morning, they went to the nearest town, bought booze, got drunk, acquired steel pipes and then attacked security personnel and smashed windows and furniture at their residence. Police were called and, of course, they proceeded to beat up the police as well (one policeman badly injured).

Of course they were released after checking their identity.

The best bit - the article ends with the sentence "There are now concerns that this incident will lead to hateful messages on social networks". No the fear isn't that violent animals without any moral compass are on the loose, it's that "people might say bad things on the internet".

I discussed this story with several of my former high school classmates. They would still try to defend them or explain it away. Germans are done. They deserve every bit of what they're getting.

True. German is done, and I do not feel a single bit of empathy towards them, I have been saying this here for a while.

German people are the perfect example on how human stupidity has no limits and how IQ coeficients are not directly proportional to stupidity levels.

Yes, if you wanted a planet of slaves you could do worse than choose Germans to populate it. They are intelligent, hardworking and technically very competent. These attributes combined with their docile nature and overwhelming conformity to the expectations of others would make them ideal for the role.

Germany's goose is cucked.

100-120 IQ on average is way too low to break free of smart uniform conditioning quickly. And to be fair you can brainwash the 130+ IQ folk as well - provide the brain with an inordinate amount of "peer-reviewed" data to occupy the mind and that person is overwhelmed by the data assuming that anything in the minority must be wrong or a "conspiracy".

Anonymous Bosch had a good take on that topic - still the smarter AND MORE REBELLIOUS a population is, the more dangerous they are to the ruling elite. The worst thing to them are a great number of smart, but unrelentingly masculine men who try to make up their own mind on all things. Such a group must be suppressed quickly and strongly.

As for Germany - the brainwashing mixes Christian guilt-mindset, Holocoust and WWII guilt complex, German shame and constant CURRENT-YEAR-LIBERAL PROPAGANDA in TV, media, entertainment, academia, schools, politics. Essentially for Germans to break free of this they would have to start to assume that everyone is lying to them and that they have been lied to their whole life.

In contrast the rapefugees are coming from a low-trust tribal society and they assume that everyone is trying to con them anyway, so they don't trust much except Islam, which they claim to be the perfect system with Mohammed the perfect man. Those two religious perceptions must never be questioned, but as far as worldly power goes there is little trust. Also their low IQs don't even see the massive hammer hanging above them - the one that the globalists have already put in place and the one that will smash them when they have fulfilled their task of destroying the Western unity.

Nassim Taleb's "Intellectual yet Idiot' piece comes to mind

https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellect....k7xmgdq93

Snippets:

What we have been seeing worldwide, from India to the UK to the US, is the rebellion against the inner circle of no-skin-in-the-game policymaking “clerks” and journalists-insiders, that class of paternalistic semi-intellectual experts with some Ivy league, Oxford-Cambridge, or similar label-driven education who are telling the rest of us 1) what to do, 2) what to eat, 3) how to speak, 4) how to think… and 5) who to vote for.

........

More socially, the IYI subscribes to The New Yorker. He never curses on twitter. He speaks of “equality of races” and “economic equality” but never went out drinking with a minority cab driver (again, no real skin in the game as the concept is foreign to the IYI). Those in the U.K. have been taken for a ride by Tony Blair. The modern IYI has attended more than one TEDx talks in person or watched more than two TED talks on Youtube. Not only did he vote for Hillary Monsanto-Malmaison because she seems electable and some such circular reasoning, but holds that anyone who doesn’t do so is mentally ill.

.....

He knows at any point in time what his words or actions are doing to his reputation.

But a much easier marker: he doesn’t even deadlift.

"Cucked" is too weak a word for the Germans' response in the story above. "Eunuch'd" is more like it.

(03-06-2017 10:02 AM)rockoman Wrote:  Nassim Taleb's "Intellectual yet Idiot' piece comes to mind

"Intellectual yet Idiot" holds truth for 99,9% of self proclaimed intellectuals, or people perceived has intellectuals by others that I crossed paths in life. thankfully we have some truly intelectual people among us the contributors of this forum

@Zel,

No, Germans are not brainwashed, they are just souless robots without meaning in life (in general...). I work with them, they cant solve any minor issue by themselves, they are unable to take decisions, anything that goes out of their work routine is a huge problem. European Union and the workforce of other member states like southern europeans and eastern/central europeans was a bless to Germany.

Also, lets not forget that the ancestor state of the 2nd and 3d Reich was Prussia, a Baltic Nation split nowadays between Russia and Poland, with strong Slavic blood heritage. Many former states of nowadays Germany just happened to be in the right place at the right time during the Industrial Revolution, that was pushed by Britain, and its close ties to the house of Hannover, the seat of the British monarchy.

Stories like this are why I laugh at theories about IQ. There's plenty of "low IQ" countries where insane crap like this could never happen.

True intellectuals don't bring up their intellect directly. I was just thinking hours ago about a former professor who was a lawyer and a Ph.D. Quote from him one class: "I'm not just as educated as the next guy, I'm WAY more educated than the next guy, hence [why he figured he was right about whatever he was preaching at the time].

Would you believe he leans Liberal?

Just on cue, I sent that article to a very high IQ female friend who speaks German:

Her: "I don't believe this."
Me: "Why?"
Her: "We shouldn't always believe everything that journalists write. Today it's very hard to deduce truth from propaganda."
Me: "But at the end they mention something like 'The biggest worry is that this story will spark hate speech.' - doesn't that imply that they are sorry for having to report on this, not that they are blowing it up?"
Her: "Well, some manipulators are very smart..."

Her: "We shouldn't always believe everything that journalists write. Today it's very hard to deduce truth from propaganda."

LO-f'ng-L! In other words: "Fake news!" (how quickly the Libtards forget that they invented the term)

Her: "Well, some manipulators are very smart..."

Reminds me of this YT compilation of SJWs getting owned (watch from 4-7 minutes until the audience boos the SJW---so very heartening to see common sense on display!---for saying that the Brexit voters were "lied to"): https://youtu.be/hRZlHb2sXS8

(03-06-2017 12:01 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Just on cue, I sent that article to a very high IQ female friend who speaks German:

Her: "I don't believe this."
Me: "Why?"
Her: "We shouldn't always believe everything that journalists write. Today it's very hard to deduce truth from propaganda."
Me: "But at the end they mention something like 'The biggest worry is that this story will spark hate speech.' - doesn't that imply that they are sorry for having to report on this, not that they are blowing it up?"
Her: "Well, some manipulators are very smart..."

If she doesn't believe this story why does she believe the stories that Muslims are good?

Selective bias, totally retarded.

Germans live in an illusion of reality. They lost the common sense and the basic aggression a society need for survival. The reasons why? I guess its the rise in a bubble like Japan. Everything is in order, things work kind of smooth. You don't face the brute reality, never have to think about it. Unlike Japan politicians hold their hads down and reject anything that is seen as patriotic or even national. Germans are the future of the new dawn, thats why we get attacked first and the most. And like everything strong, the biggest weakness is not outside, its inside us.

Germans go to extremes, they lack the balance. I see the difference now even more in Austria. They deny their own culture and still think they are the best and keep an arrogance. Due to the history Germans lost their freedom spirit long ago, they went under militarism and order since centuries. This is hard to overcome. In the one hand you have a machine that can march to the fields of Europe and in the other it open the gates for the own destruction. No matter how you take it, this is the faith of Germans like other nations have their faith. Also Germany got hit hard since the last 2 to 3 years, before that other countries in Europe did face far worse cultural enrichment.
Just take a look at the greatest German tale. The Nibelungenlied. Its a glorification of destruction where everyone kills each other at the end.

I see a lot of posts debating how low IQ can still be stupid.

To this I must say - Morality is the basis of Wisdom

If you take away morality - religion, sexual decency, philosophic ideals - mind becomes a destructive force used for rationalization of stupid decisions made from feelings and emotions.

People who don't bother to be moral will always end up acting stupid - they will not be non intelligent, but they will be unwise.

This is difference between smarts and wisdom. Smarts is ability to solve math equations and speak eloquently. Wisdom is ability to make the reasonable choice above the emotional choice, to accept hard truths and to keep the long term goal in mind and ignore the distractions.

Wisdom is based on morality and as the west has abandoned any moral standards - their wisdom has gone too. Westerners still have smarts but as we see smarts without wisdom is inferior to brutality, fear-mongering, taqiya deception, shamelessness and strength in numbers.

There's no need to be mythological. Germany is no special snowflake. Sweden is worse off, but has less historical baggage. Historical baggage doesn't matter. Civilisations will hit the end of their cycle no matter what. The Nibelungenlied is a glorious story about being loyal to your friends and your kind until death. Not about being fearful cucks like my fellow German citizens.

What's going on with German is more sobering. German society is old, lacks innovation is overly socially confirming. They will be taken over by more vital cultures, also because that part is instrumented.

Currently I have to take the train to go to work in Cologne. I am the only recognizable (ethnic) German in some parts of the city. Some districts look like Bagdhad... well, Bagdhad probably looks more pleasent than this cess pool. I have to be constatly be on guard there. It wears me out more than work does. Not even the part about being on high alert. But the realisation that Western Germany is fucked. Sure, I can fight and defend myself. But I am only one guy.

If there's one annoying immanent cultural trait, its this annoying subservient attitude. Germans are going to work punctually every day wearing blinders. What good like tax drones they are, ultimately paying for their own demise.

Hey Parzifal, Das Nibelungenlied, is available on youtube as well as Das Rheingold I just found Parzifal on youtube. Wagner ftw! Great choice of name for the forum!


I have a bit of German heritage on my mother's side, some Irish, Norse, and Lapp on my father's side. I'm old fashioned in that I think its imperative to have at least the slightest bit of connection to our ancestors and by extension our ancestral homelands along with good morals and strength. From the outside Germans look like they lost their ability to fight? A pathological need to follow orders?

Wasn't it Aristotle who said that wisdom came from experience, or that is intelligence. I can't remember, however there does appear to be an epidemic of intelligent but yet incredibly stupid people. I always use the anecdotal example of how I knew a straight A masters student of Politics; who despite studying the subject for four years, was unable to tell me who Lenin was. She genuinely believed that I had made up this political figure or he came from an esoteric book and it was unreasonable for her to know who he actually was. Taking in mind that this girl received excellent grades, mostly for writing social justice talking points mind you.

Jordan Peterson has really helped me pin point the mentality that a lot of the millennium generation have taken on. Due to their social constructivism and post modern way of thinking; they are incapable of meeting somebody on a rational level to debate sensitive subjects. By doing this, they are validating the 'oppressors' narrative which is using rational logic to 'oppress' them.
That is the major difficult that we are facing here, essentially a whole new batch of 'Mao's red guards' have been created here. Ideologues who live in a completely different version of reality.

(03-06-2017 03:06 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  Wasn't it Aristotle who said that wisdom came from experience, or that is intelligence. I can't remember, however there does appear to be an epidemic of intelligent but yet incredibly stupid people. I always use the anecdotal example of how I knew a straight A masters student of Politics; who despite studying the subject for four years, was unable to tell me who Lenin was. She genuinely believed that I had made up this political figure or he came from an esoteric book and it was unreasonable for her to know who he actually was. Taking in mind that this girl received excellent grades, mostly for writing social justice talking points mind you.

Jordan Peterson has really helped me pin point the mentality that a lot of the millennium generation have taken on. Due to their social constructivism and post modern way of thinking; they are incapable of meeting somebody on a rational level to debate sensitive subjects. By doing this, they are validating the 'oppressors' narrative which is using rational logic to 'oppress' them.
That is the major difficult that we are facing here, essentially a whole new batch of 'Mao's red guards' have been created here. Ideologues who live in a completely different version of reality.

I had a very heated discussion with one of those types and her white knight in fall 2015 when the migrant invasion was just getting underway. They could not understand how I and my friend with me there were against the migrant invasion. All talk of the poor women and children, etc,etc. When its clear most migrants are military aged men. This was just before the Paris attacks. I even said they were using sophistry a few times. University students are a strange bunch. Luckily my school has not had any major moments of retardation but its possible. The pathological desire to look like the most virtuous and progressive and caring people. Its insane. So concerned about foreigners and not their own people.

Europe is an old place. Look at the average age of the citizens. Then compare it to the ones in the middle east. Its similar to the middle ages and the colonial times. Where in Europe the youth seek out for a greater future. Now we are ad the peak. The older people get, the less risky they are, they are establish and want to keep what they did build up. Less risk. In the middle east now, there are failed societies, also in Africa. Millions of young people that see everyday what Europe has to offer them. All the girls, sex, money, jobs, cars, the life they do not know and never can hope for in their shitty places. So they make the move like the Vikings did or like the 2nd, 3rd and 4th born did in the times of the crusades with the hope to gain glory, to become rich.

Then the generations in Europe had no struggles in the last decades, the young ones get outvoted by the old ones. Politicians favour them, the generation below 30 will face hardship but they are just a few against the majority of 50+ people. They are soft as well, don't rebel even if every serious economical prediction point out the collapse and the poverty they will face. Europe lacks the will to renew itself. Maybe it had to go down that out of the ashes something new can rise.

(03-06-2017 03:05 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  From the outside Germans look like they lost their ability to fight? A pathological need to follow orders?

Go to the next village festival or football game. Its not that Germans or Europeans can't pick up a fight. Its just they lack the spirit to be united into the right direction.

(03-06-2017 02:14 PM)Samseau Wrote:  If she doesn't believe this story why does she believe the stories that Muslims are good?

Selective bias, totally retarded.

Together with Middle Eastern Muslims there came tens of thousands if not 100-200.000 Middle Eastern Christians to Europe within the last 2-3 years.

The worst excesses I have heard from them is embezzlement, social security fraud and some rare cases of criminal gangs.

There is a certain lack of demolished asylum centers, riots, gang rapes, murders, sexual assaults, mass sexual assaults, child rapes and other sexual emergencies. Only Muslims hit the news even while the MSM is constantly attempting to suppress it. (and sure - you get various immigrants and locals doing some terrible crimes including in countries like Japan, but those psychopaths are normally rare)

I am less concerned about some cases of fraud by the Christian Middle Easterners or burgleries that Ukrainian immigrants are doing. Europe can deal with that - buy new shit, catch the fraudsters over time, the worst that happens is that some money is lost. But when the psychos go amok and rape, kill and burn - then it destroys the entire fabric of society and is the beginning of a shithole creation.

Netherlands:

Sweden:

Mass street brawl with machine guns later found on the ground.

I guess they wanna repeat the Pakistani enrichement in the UK where the 3% of Pakistanis are responsible for roughly 50% of birth defects there. Marrying your UNDERAGE AND ILLEGAL COUSIN - Captain Sweden is so tolerant!

To be clear: CHILD MARRIAGE AND INCEST IS LEGAL NOW IN SWEDEN!

Every pedo in the world should convert to Islam and move to Sweden - then he should get himself a 12yo wife while having 3 other 12yo extracurricular wives.

Wholeheartedly agree and thank the posters here.

On IQ and stupidity :
As properly discriminating the flesh from the fluff in stats is a complex task I leave for thise better prepared here I will appeal to a bit of terrenal (un) common sense. If you are above the age of 18 (which I assume most should be except Zel who is probably a 2001 space oddissey phaetus kind of entity) Don't yoy think somehow in the last 15 years (not to mention 20) people as a collective entity just seem to have become less "smart" progressively? Whereas back in the beginning of the twentieth century you could expect at least a basic general culture from someone with a secondary education in the western world (public education was only dawning in many parts if I am not mistaken?) nowadays you have people with master degrees who ignore - as pointed already in this thread - even the canonical names of their downloaded ideology app of choice! And yet, these people believe themselves above and beyond said predecessors.

Even before you took the redpill these progressive corrosion must have been evident?


Edit&addendum:

If the surrounding nations were a bit more objective they'd admit that at this point Sweden should be cordoned in all directions and be set in quarantine to avoid metastatic spread, failing that proceed to concrete doming a la chernobyl.

As for Germany I weep for the mother culture of my future children , but hey, the saying says that if you sow winds...

So, with greater unrest and greater migrant population, what will we get? Where are the investment opportunities?

I see the following:

-Walled-off, gated communities and possibly color-coded safety zones (hat tip to Zel)
-Ethnocentrism and xenophobia by all - widespread distrust, interracial conflicts become flashpoints
-Rise in alternative / parallel institutions to provide what the state cannot or will not (private schools and pools without the blessings of "diversity", private security where police will not go, homeowners put up perimeter walls and bars on windows, metal detectors everywhere)
-Broad support of mass surveillance
-Fringe movements for law enforcement reform, likely unsuccessful
-Vigilante justice or even far-right insurgency / attacks, likely cracked down upon
-Rise of alternative media and nationalistic tendencies to offset existing mass media - will likely be discouraged by powers that be, at the very minimum
-Guard dog breeders will make bank. Possible regulation.
-Outflow from urban, "diverse" areas to more peaceful suburbs. Increase in remote work and telecommuting.
-Breakdown of public transportation due to high crime rates and "undesirables" - this, in particular, I see as leading to an increase of "point-to-point" transit (ex: commuter buses from suburbia straight to business districts and back, as opposed to stops along the way), possibly an increase in Uber and taxi service.
-increased car ownership for the same reasons. Increased carjacking.
-Movement away from mass public events and socialization - results from increase in online shopping and food delivery to more at home entertainment
-Fashion sales will tank - standing out and flashing cash will become dangerous, coupled with less opportunities for "nights on the town"
-Drug abuse to spike, along with general crime rates due to overwhelmed police
-Immigration, most likely to other western countries. US and Canada seem to stand out as destinations. First generation immigrants will increasingly repatriate.

Money is to be made in immigration assistance. Whether selling retirement homes in warm, low cost of living countries to retirees, or helping younger workers move to the US and Canada via work and investment visas...this seems like the best place to throw some coins.

What other effects are likely?

(03-06-2017 03:56 PM)El_Gostro Wrote:  Wholeheartedly agree and thank the posters here.

On IQ and stupidity :
As properly discriminating the flesh from the fluff in stats is a complex task I leave for thise better prepared here I will appeal to a bit of terrenal (un) common sense. If you are above the age of 18 (which I assume most should be except Zel who is probably a 2001 space oddissey phaetus kind of entity) Don't yoy think somehow in the last 15 years (not to mention 20) people as a collective entity just seem to have become less "smart" progressively? Whereas back in the beginning of the twentieth century you could expect at least a basic general culture from someone with a secondary education in the western world (public education was only dawning in many parts if I am not mistaken?) nowadays you have people with master degrees who ignore - as pointed already in this thread - even the canonical names of their downloaded ideology app of choice! And yet, these people believe themselves above and beyond said predecessors.

Even before you took the redpill these progressive corrosion must have been evident?

I think that IQs of certain parts of the population are being seperated ever more (some get increasingly smarter while other parts of society are dumbed down constantly) - HG Wells was a scientific elite member and his book Time Machine was written with a certain afterthought. He described the human species evolving differently for different reasons. Huxley got his ideas of Alphas to Gammas out of the planning that were talked of during dinner time in his house.

I have read that the UN has started to lower the IQ tests worldwide so as not to make the drop so apparent. We can discuss at length of why IQs have started to drop in the 1990s. But there is also something else going on - technology and the weaponized education is changing thought patterns, lowering attention time, limiting the ability to concentrate - this in tandem with the added toxins in the recent decades that physically lower IQs also decrease the actual reasoning capacity of the average citizen. Essentially even if you are potentially smart you become a what Germans call "Fachidiot" - someone who knows only one way to think and act and who simply does not see anything else however true the other way may be.

I personally always knew that something was off with our system, but did not know exactly what it was.

Now most of it makes sense, but I like it even less. On the other hand I am more detached now, so this helps.

We are still living in great times - we can make things happen, move wherever we want, and we are witnessing big changes coming, civil wars, maybe the next world war. "May you live in interesting times" is a curse in China for a reason.