Post: #301

(11-06-2016 03:38 PM)Rico Ramon Wrote:  That's how it comes across to me, I haven't noticed anyone bringing up what Obama stepped into as president, I don't think the economy was in good health was it?

Just because I give an opinion on the comments and the tone of them, that makes me a white hating, race baiting piece of shit? Is this section where everyone has to agree.

Assume the worst about me, and I'll assume the worst about you, moron.

You placed your opinions about Obama in an "all you white people who don't like him are just racist", race-baiting comment sandwich, and treated the members of this forum in bad faith. This might be acceptable behaviour in the culture at large, where "equality" is a tool for cultural warfare, but men here are expected to behave respectfully. That means assuming good faith in debates, not starting from the position that people who disagree with you secretly wish we could go back to slavery days.

(11-06-2016 03:38 PM)Rico Ramon Wrote:  For one, how on earth would I know the race of most of the posters here? do you?

You tell me, you're the one who made the assumption that we're all white and hate Obama because he's black. Fuck off.

A result of the unique position members of this forum find themselves in is that most of us know not to engage in dialectic with people with a predisposition to assume the worst about us, because it's impossible. Any appearance of trying to establish the truth, or gain a deeper understanding of each other's beliefs is an illusion, because the "truth" has already been established. We are evil, and debate is merely a tool to show how evil we are to the world.

Post: #302

Shit just gets weirder and weirder...


Quote:
Subject: RE: Get ready for "Chicago Hot Dog Friday"

I think Obama spent about $65,000 of the tax-payers money flying in
pizza/dogs from Chicago for a private party at the White House not long
ago, assume we are using the same channels?

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/12/12...iday-.html

Post: #303

(11-06-2016 04:58 PM)Ocelot Wrote:  

(11-06-2016 03:38 PM)Rico Ramon Wrote:  That's how it comes across to me, I haven't noticed anyone bringing up what Obama stepped into as president, I don't think the economy was in good health was it?

Just because I give an opinion on the comments and the tone of them, that makes me a white hating, race baiting piece of shit? Is this section where everyone has to agree.

Assume the worst about me, and I'll assume the worst about you, moron.

You placed your opinions about Obama in an "all you white people who don't like him are just racist", race-baiting comment sandwich, and treated the members of this forum in bad faith. This might be acceptable behaviour in the culture at large, where "equality" is a tool for cultural warfare, but men here are expected to behave respectfully. That means assuming good faith in debates, not starting from the position that people who disagree with you secretly wish we could go back to slavery days.

(11-06-2016 03:38 PM)Rico Ramon Wrote:  For one, how on earth would I know the race of most of the posters here? do you?

You tell me, you're the one who made the assumption that we're all white and hate Obama because he's black. Fuck off.

A result of the unique position members of this forum find themselves in is that most of us know not to engage in dialectic with people with a predisposition to assume the worst about us, because it's impossible. Any appearance of trying to establish the truth, or gain a deeper understanding of each other's beliefs is an illusion, because the "truth" has already been established. We are evil, and debate is merely a tool to show how evil we are to the world.

I'm not assuming the worst about you nor did I state "all white people who dislike Obama are racist", I know plenty of people of various races who are not happy with Obama. I would say the general feel of segments of the population have an issue with him being black and being president, in my observation and experiences.

It's interesting that individuals don't show this same type of outrage against Congress and its various members as well.

There is no need to call names or be rude in your responses as that is not the most productive way to deal with an opinion that doesn't align with yours.

Post: #304

I came to realize that we have to cut Obama some slack for one main reason.

That is the reason why so many people voted for him for the first time. The reason is of course that he was black. Of course it would have been better if he were a better candidate, but he is not stupid.

On the other hand it became clear quickly that he was the usual corporate globalist stooge as the rest of them - only in black. In a way he abolished racism, because we stopped caring about his race, but were more concerned about the usual crap that the PR position of president does.

In what way is he better than for example Bush?

* both are closet gays - one more the macho kind while the other the more feminine one
* Obama is probably smarter or Bush just drank his brains away
* Bush speaks with a fake Texan accent having grown up in Connecticut
* Obama fakes a Christian having grown up a closet Muslim (he is probably not much, but leans towards Islam - bowing down to the Saudi King as if he is his master)
* at least Obama is from humble origins while Bush got the ass-kissing treatment since birth - that is a plus
* both guys waged useless wars for the globalists - Bush against Iraq, Obama against Libya (among many others)

I frankly don't see much difference between those guys. But yeah - aside from being the first black one there is not much else going on here. The US will elect another black president someday and a woman, but as long as all of them are traitors and servants to the super-elite, then you will just have figureheads without much power. Everyone of them will fuck you over. Whether you get fucked over by Bush or by Obama - that should not matter and in a way that is true abolishment of racism. You are fucked either way - heh. (And it explains why 13% of black men voted for Trump this time.)

So in a way you gotta cut Obama some slack. I wish him luck banging his male escorts in peace.

Post: #305

And on another related aspect since all of them are traitors anyway - some are certainly more likeable than others:

Who would you like to hang out having a beer?

1. Bill Clinton - sharing hookers and coke far away from the warden
2. Obama - yeah - he is gay - but he is likeable, he also can certainly bang chicks if he has to
3. Bush jr. - he can hang a bit
4. Satan
5. Block of Wood
6. Death incarnate
7. Hillary Clinton

Of course Donald Trump is on a different scale here.

Post: #306

(11-14-2016 03:36 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  I came to realize that we have to cut Obama some slack for one main reason.

That is the reason why so many people voted for him for the first time. The reason is of course that he was black. Of course it would have been better if he were a better candidate, but he is not stupid.

On the other hand it became clear quickly that he was the usual corporate globalist stooge as the rest of them - only in black.

I agree with your premise that Obama was just George W. Bush all over again, another sell out shill to the globalist elites. Economically and foreign policy wise, they were very similar. While Obama pretended to not be like Bush, and the low IQ of the country still buys into it, their policies were very similar.

What makes Obama even far worse than Bush is his divisiveness. You would have to have lived in the USA from say 2007 to 2016 to really see it. While Obama was fucking the middle class over, he was pandering as if he was some urban mayor. Saying things that should never be said from the POTUS podium and then not changing his tone or apologizing for it.

He has caused so much division in our country, I don't know if it can ever be put back together again. For the most powerful man in the world to pander and pretend he is a perpetual victim has been beyond pathetic.

Post: #307

Looking forward to the day Obama leave the White House once President-elect Trump takes over.

Post: #308

Possibly the most disgusting and shameless statement that I've ever heard from Obama: "I won't tell the protesters to be silent.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/...story.html

A sitting president encouraging riots against the president-elect. Now I've really heard it all.

Post: #309

I say no. For example, Obamacare is much maligned. But if you look at the alternatives being floated they hardly seem like revolutionary improvements.
http://www.vox.com/2016/11/17/13626438/o...comparison

Obamacare got the idea from Mitt Romney and the original idea is from the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

If you are going to make health care is accessible to everyone including those with pre-existing conditions you either have to have some type of single payer system or a private system with subsidies for the poor and some type of mandate or large incentives for healthy people to enroll. Otherwise many people will be left out.

Post: #310

^^HCL +1 Proof BHO should be prosecuted for undermining the USA by supporting violent BLM domestic terrorists and poisoning the EU well by his anti America pro Marxist Islamists victory tour of Germany and the EU.

Post: #311

(11-19-2016 12:00 PM)Tyroc7 Wrote:  I say no. For example, Obamacare is much maligned. But if you look at the alternatives being floated they hardly seem like revolutionary improvements.
http://www.vox.com/2016/11/17/13626438/o...comparison

Obamacare got the idea from Mitt Romney and the original idea is from the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

If you are going to make health care is accessible to everyone including those with pre-existing conditions you either have to have some type of single payer system or a private system with subsidies for the poor and some type of mandate or large incentives for healthy people to enroll. Otherwise many people will be left out.

Obamacare is nothing new - Clinton had that coming in the 1990s already, but the current system is simply a nightmare. While it gives some people access to some healthcare it is paid for by incredibly high premiums and costs via the middle class. It is utter madness that healthcare costs 20.000-30.000$ per year for some.

There should be single-payer system that everyone has to pay into it. That should give you some basic care - in most countries this is only 10-20% as expensive as in the US. Why is that? Because the big insurance and health mafia companies overcharge the people so much. It is not that the care system in the US is better than for example Netherlands or Switzerland. So why does it cost x-times more?

Nah - Obamacare is the perfect union of communism and capitalism in one. Even Michael Moore is no fan of it and that tells it all really.

Best:

+ Single payer cheap state-run clinics that give you basic care - everyone pays into it. Most folk simply get a small fee deducted from the wages - it would likely be something like 50-100$ per month. Some clinics offer those services in tandem with private ones.
+ In addition you have the private market offering premium services, better MDs, better rooms, "better" meds - all at the free market principles

I know what you are thinking - government would do a bad job. This can be remedied by hiring folk who are working in well-functioning European countries like Sweden, Switzerland or Netherlands. A government single payer system would also exert a certain pressure on HMOs to not gouge their customers that much. They would make a few billion less per year, but who cares - those suckers are useless. The money is better served in the pockets of the general population. Also the cheap single payer system would give everyone access - all who worked would pay into it (even the ones who do not use it generally would, but it would not hurt them financially - on the other hand only the unemployed or destitute would get it for free - they would restart paying into it as soon as they worked).

Ah - illegals should get only emergency access to it - similar to tourists. But that should be clear.

Post: #312

(11-19-2016 12:00 PM)Tyroc7 Wrote:  I say no. For example, Obamacare is much maligned. But if you look at the alternatives being floated they hardly seem like revolutionary improvements.
http://www.vox.com/2016/11/17/13626438/o...comparison

Obamacare got the idea from Mitt Romney and the original idea is from the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

If you are going to make health care is accessible to everyone including those with pre-existing conditions you either have to have some type of single payer system or a private system with subsidies for the poor and some type of mandate or large incentives for healthy people to enroll. Otherwise many people will be left out.

The problem with Obamacare is not the idea in the big picture itself. Make sure high risk people can buy insurance, have the younger and healthier people help pay for it, as their time will come in 30 years, keep much in the private markets where it is more efficient.

The problem with Obamacare, like all liberal fantasies, is the application in the real world.

Obamacare was doomed to fail before it rolled out, and many think this was intentional, but that is another debate. The reasons it was doomed to fail before it was even rolled out...

- No support from the opposition (GOP) party in the creation of the bill.
- Back room deals fucking other states over to get it to pass.
- 2,700 page nightmare that the people who passed it admitted they didn't read or understand.
- Hiring little friends to write the web page that was a clusterfuck and allowed for identity theft, rather than hiring top notch tech companies.
- Not getting doctor's input so they took early retirement by the loads and caused a doctor shortage.
- Giving the insurance companies free reign to keep fucking people over and a bail out option.
- Inefficient govt. wasting resources and turning much of it into a giant slushfund.

On and on. The worst part about Obamacare is Obama himself. The bill is EXTREMELY unpopular and the elections since 2010 have said this strongly. And Obama refuses to compromise on it at all. He will go down in history not only as a buffoon, but a very insecure hard headed buffoon.

Post: #313

(11-18-2016 03:30 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Possibly the most disgusting and shameless statement that I've ever heard from Obama: "I won't tell the protesters to be silent.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/...story.html

A sitting president encouraging riots against the president-elect. Now I've really heard it all.

Jesus.

I just worked through that clusterfuck of ads and read some of the other articles. The Boston Globe should be shut down.

I Want Trump To Fail and some bullshit about why Hillary not getting elected was so hurtful to everyone Bostonians should deliberately fuck things up.

A lot of people read that crap and think its true. There's supposed to be a bunch of smart people in Boston, but that paper is terrible.

Aloha!

Post: #314

Thought this would be fitting:





Old vid of Obama visiting Kenya and the family of his supposed father's family. His official father as well as his official Kenyan family seem to be quite smart, but seriously look at the civilizational divide. From grasshuts to White House.

In the vid you also see a young Michelle Obama as his fiancee - she looks way more feminine back then.

The video is titled whining about black privilege, but I wouldn't call it that. He just stated that Whites get treated better even in Kenya back then, which was certainly true.

Though there are still no successful black nations despite Obama voicing hope that Kenya would become one.

By the way - Obama's official and real dads were both high-IQ black men - I find that theory rather highly likely and it would also explain the early divorce somehow, since his mother retained relations with his biological globalist scientific-elite communist father:



Frank Marshall Davis supposedly took those pics and was later the main mentor of Obama:



I guess that is why he appeared so detached when visiting his "family" in Kenya and did not help them out much - there is no blood relations to them except by paper.

Post: #315

^ Supposedly those photos aren't of Lee Ann Dunham, but some other whore. That said Frank Marshall Davis is curious and could be the real father of 0bama.

Post: #316

Obama is refusing to talk to Congress about the refugees he's dragging into the US from terrorist hotspots. Supposedly 2500 of them were rejected by Australia so we're taking them instead.

Lou Dobbs talks about it for a few minutes, starting at 24:45 or so:





Obama's a real piece of work. Everything he does intentionally damages this country.

Post: #317

There's a 500 page thread and a 2100 page thread on this forum that wouldn't exist if Obama was anything other than a terrible president.

You know why he's the most refugee friendly president? It's because he's made the most of them.

The millions of migrants flooding the EU wouldn't be doing so if Obama didn't spend the last eight years bombing the shit out of their countries.

Post: #318

Yes they would. When you're a bitch begging to get robbed and raped, someone will come along eventually to help you out. As evidenced by the millions of Eritrean, Gambian, Tunisian, Bangladeshi and Whateverstan migrants all streaming into Europe despite their countries being safe from bombing.

Post: #319

Why don't they send them back, and only grant 3-5yr temporary residence permits for real Syrian refugees... Aleppo is going to be united in a few months, there could be enough stability there to allow for reconstruction, so that Merkel and Hollande can put their money into rebuilding a stable, secular Syria instead of subsidizing refugees at home and funding mercenaries who are tearing up that country. The problem at both levels is that it goes against the wishes of the globalists.

Post: #320

(11-30-2016 12:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  ^ Supposedly those photos aren't of Lee Ann Dunham, but some other whore. That said Frank Marshall Davis is curious and could be the real father of 0bama.

Are you sure, it looks to a solid match to me:

Post: #321

Good Infowars edition today with Joel Gilbert, who ties loose ends and sets the Barry Soetero's story straight:





Peter Geithner, head of the Ford Foundation, was Obama's mother's handler, his son Tim served as Barry O.'s Secretary of the Treasury. Obama was part of the system even before he was born, his main mission was to sell out the USA to the globalists by racking up $10 Trillion of debt to the Fed owners in an artificially created bubble. This might have been the greatest heist in world history. A Republican wouldn't have been able to pull it off so well. Same scenario in Greece, with "outsider" leftist Tsipras selling out his country to Goldman Sachs and the EU.

The best and worst of Alex Jones on display here: kudos to him for dropping phenomenal truth bombs that the MSM won't touch with a 10' pole, reaching a very large audience. Too bad that his gruff, ADD, populist persona detracts from his gravitas.

Post: #322

Its a crying ass shame that Obama wasn't at the pearl Harbor stuff today. Especially considering he's 1) the president and 2) from hawaii.

Aparantly he's gonna visit with the president of Japan on the 27th. He'll already be here fucking up traffic and ruining Christmases, so its easier for him.

Aloha!

Post: #323

(12-07-2016 04:17 PM)Kona Wrote:  Its a crying ass shame that Obama wasn't at the pearl Harbor stuff today. Especially considering he's 1) the president and 2) from hawaii.

Aparantly he's gonna visit with the president of Japan on the 27th. He'll already be here fucking up traffic and ruining Christmases, so its easier for him.

Aloha!

Made it easier for me to get to work this week, too bad I was working dark to dark or I would have hit you up.

Some recent news, none the least bit surprising.

Obama Urges Soldiers to Question Trump’s Authority, ‘Criticize Our President’

Quote:In his final address to America’s armed forces, President Barack Obama reminded troops that once Donald J. Trump becomes president, soldiers have a duty to question his authority and criticize him. Obama also said the Second Amendment and global warming can be blamed for terrorism.
Obama stood before soldiers at MacDill Air Force Base, in Tampa, Florida on Tuesday, December 6, to talk about “the foundation that we will leave for the next administration,” CNSNews.com reported.

Characterizing the military’s mission as a fight against “violent extremism,” Obama insisted that soldiers need to rise up against Trump if they feel he is pushing policies that are ill considered.

Obama told the troops, “each of us has…the universal right to speak your minds and to protest against authority; to live in a society that’s open and free; that can criticize our president without retribution.”

Obama went on to insist that a proper U.S. policy against “violent extremism” is a “long term” policy.

“So rather than offer false promises that we can eliminate terrorism by dropping more bombs or deploying more and more troops or fencing ourselves off from the rest of the world,” Obama said, “we have to take a long view of the terrorist threat. And we have to pursue a smart strategy that can be sustained. In the time remaining, let me just suggest what I think should guide this approach.”

The lame duck president also went on to blame terrorism on the Second Amendment and global warming.

In addressing the war-torn Middle East, Obama insisted that global warming forms a large part of that conflict. “A changing climate is increasing competition for food and water,” which, he claimed, drives the conflict in Syria and other nearby nations.

Obama also blamed the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution for “violent extremism” in the United States.

“Somebody who is trying to kill and willing to be killed is dangerous, particularly when we live in a country where it’s very easy for that person to buy a very powerful weapon,” Obama insisted.

The presidential short-timer also placed blame on the Constitution’s First Amendment, hinting that he thinks free speech is too freely indulged to prevent “impressionable minds” from being warped by “extremism” on the Internet.

Obama touted his efforts to limit the reach of terror recruiters online saying, “We’ve worked with our tech sector to support efforts to push back on terrorist messages on social media that motivate people to kill.”

The president also defended Islam against the charge of extremism:

We are fighting terrorists who claim to fight on behalf of Islam. But they do not speak for over a billion Muslims around the world, and they do not speak for American Muslims including many who wear the uniform of the United States of America’s military. If we stigmatize good patriotic Muslims, that just feeds the terrorists’ narrative. It fuels the same false grievances they they use to motivate people to kill. If we act like this is a war between the United States and Islam, we’re not gonna lose more Americans to terrorist attacks, but we’ll also lose the sight of the very principles we claim to defend

As to the rise of ISIS, Obama insisted it was not given aide by his actions of pulling out of Iraq in 2011 but was instead given succor by the policies of George W. Bush.

“By 2011, Iraqis wanted our military presence to end, and they were unwilling to sign a new status of forces agreement to protect our troops from prosecution if they were trying to defend themselves in Iraq,” Obama proclaimed. “In addition, maintaining American troops in Iraq at the time could not have reversed the forces that contributed to ISIL’s rise.”

Obama added, “Some of the mistakes of the 2003 invasion have helped to give rise to the organization that became ISIL in the first place.”

This is significant because the UCMJ actually prohibits this. Generals Mattis and McChrystal can attest.

UCMJ Article 88 Wrote:“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

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Post: #325

Because of Obama's policies, US astronauts have to pay for rides on RUSSIAN spacecraft to reach the ISS. The US Shuttle program put human beings on the moon and created hope, ambition and patriotism across the nation.

Under Obama, Russia now has a more sophisticated space program than the United States.

Fuck Obama.