(10-06-2016 10:43 PM)Rush87 Wrote: (10-06-2016 10:34 PM)TravelerKai Wrote: https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/commen...ed_get_in/
Some shit is going down.
There are leaks from today. I don't have time to look through all of them. I'll post this one just for the lol's.
Quote: On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Greg Propper [email protected] wrote: Taylor Swift comes out on stage. Talks about how far we have come.
All of a sudden.....Katy Perry comes out on stage, and talks about how much more work there is to do.
And that we have to all do it together.
And then they perform a duet!!!! AND MAKE UP!!!!!!!
thoughts?
Probably too crazy and too impossible....but never stopped us before, right!?!?!
^^ These are the kinds of faggots she has working on her campaign. 
From: Thomas Moran <
[email protected]>
Sent time: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 17:55:55 +0000
To: Sarah Henning <
[email protected]>,
Terri McCullough <
[email protected]>,
[email protected] <
[email protected]>
Subject: Horoscope
I would like to report my New York Post horoscope for the week (and Capricia's??). Be prepared for this week y'all!
Gemini:
You will be the center of attention this week and you will enjoy it immensely. Family, friends and even total strangers will want to get close to you and you may have to ration your appearances in public. It’s exhausting being a star!
From: Lyn Utrecht <
[email protected]>
Sent time: Mon, 9 May 2016 17:02:23 +0000
To: Shelly Moskwa <
[email protected]>
Subject: Re: HillPAC
Re the sham PAC quote, HillPAC became active again after the presidential campaign was over so what campaign did it operate in support of? This is a sham premise.
Maybe I'm missing something.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 9, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Shelly Moskwa > wrote:
Adding Capricia and this is making me mad -- HP accomplished so much in such a short time. My thoughts are below.
Why did HillPAC contribute "less than 25%" of its money? HillPAC was a short, four month, full-speed-ahead effort, designed to create maximum impact the for all levels of the dem ticket, which it did in a very tight time frame under unique circumstances. Lets not forget that HP was rekindled on July 1 with NOTHING -- only $5000 in the bank - and after that managed to raise enough funds to accomplish hundreds of events, dozens of emails, hundreds of thousands raised, both directly and indirectly, for others. It could not have done so much in so little time without the valuable resource of the HCFP list, and therefore rented it for a multiple-use contract. In the fall of 2008, that list was fresh, energized, dedicated, etc, probably the best on the market (Obama's list wasn't for rent then). One can not buy or instantly create those attributes -- the organic value of the list, which was sown over many prior months, was invaluable to the effort of HillPAC. HP made direct contributions, which are apparent on the FEC report, but it also helped in other ways - it sent dozens of emails on behalf of other candidates, asking list members to donate directly to those candidates, to walk door-to-door for those candidates, to send emails to their friends and families about those candidates. It was a grass roots operation and effort as much as a financial/contribution effort, and the GR can not always be measured by the figures from an FEC report. Was HP the leanest operation around? Maybe not. But did it accomplish invaluable things for the dem ticket that no other politician was capable of at the time? Yes - no one else had the time, the political capital, and the ability to gather the same level of resources and put them to use.
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Cheryl Mills > wrote:
Thanks
+ lyn, eric and Shelly
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Nick Merrill > wrote:
Widen this chain as you see fit.
Below is my note to her and her response.
She doesn't have anything but it's not going to stop her, although I'll keep at it.
I bolded a portion below that we'll need an answer for.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Emily Kopp >
Date: May 6, 2016 at 8:32:38 PM AST
To: Nick Merrill >
Subject: Re: HillPAC
Thanks for your response. Are you saying you believe the Campaign Legal Center has a partisan bias?
I appreciate the clarification on some of these points. It did occur to me that the list rental could be an invoice issue. Though if HillPAC used the list for the November election, I think it's reasonable to expect the campaign to have made that charge sooner than January. Are you aware of any particular reason that delay might have occurred?
I'm aware that the campaign said in 2009 that the prices were determined through appraisals by outside consultants. My confusion is why HillPAC would pay three times as much to rent the list any other client, but contribute less than 25 percent of what it raised to candidates. That's also available via a cursory look at public records. Most leadership PACs devote closer to half their expenditures on contributions. If HillPAC did make greater use of the list, it appears it was not to the benefit of down ballot Democrats.
Let's discuss this further on the record when you have the chance.
Thanks again,
Emily
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Nick Merrill > wrote:
Yes I'd like to talk. But I have to be honest, reading your questions it does not feel like you're coming to this objectively. To that end, let me make a couple of points off the record to demonstrate what I mean and we can go from there.
I've had a chance to look into the questions you sent, and there is nothing to suggest that HillPAC acted in any way but completely within the confines of it's mission and all rules and regulations. I'm happy to outline the details of that for you, but before I do, I'm concerned about what you just sent and your approach to this piece.
So a few points:
So far, your story is premised on the timing of a an invoice, and a series of questions that are answerable by publicly attainable information.
For example, to take your first two questions, if you look at FEC rules, you will see that the price for an email list is determined based on very specific guidelines with regard to assessing fair market value for that list. And that was of course done in this case, which you can see by looking at other rates for other lists out there. Further, the price discrepancy you cite is so because you're comparing an apple to an orange. As is also ascertainable via a cursory look at public records, the amount charged for a list is based on usage. So a one-time use is going to cost a different amount than a rental that includes several usages, both based again on fair market value, and again, demonstrably so if you look at other pricing structures of other lists.
Another example, to address your third and fourth questions, you suggest that staffers working for HillPAC were actually working for the campaign. Your evidence to back that up is that some worked for both entities simultaneously. But that actually confirms that clear lines were drawn. Employees were paid for their work and kept clear lines of responsibility between their different roles, as is common with public officials. And as far as FEC inquiries, I think if you looked you'd find that inquiries about spending are routine, and that both the FEC inquiries, responses to those inquiries, and the fact that no further action was taken is all available on FEC.gov.
Finally, the quote you cite below, is there a reason for those words, or is it just what it looks like, baseless rhetoric from a partisan?
I am happy to work with you, and I know we don't know each other very well, but this seems like trying to twist a series of routine activities by a PAC into something they are not, as I think is evident in the answers to my questions.
Please let me know how you want to proceed.
Nick
On May 6, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Emily Kopp > wrote:
Hi Nick -
Any update on this? Resending the questions I sent to Allison Wright and Capricia Marshall. You may also find it useful to respond to this quote from Brendan Fischer. He's an expert at the Campaign Legal Center.
"I don’t know I would call it a 'scam PAC.' But the evidence does suggest Hill PAC was used as a slush fund to subsidize Clinton’s presidential campaign, using money raised outside of the limits that apply to the campaign itself, rather than as a fund to support other candidates."
Thanks,
Emily
1. It appears that HillPAC paid for the Clinton campaign’s fundraising list on Jan. 28, 2009, but did not contribute to any candidates after that date. Did it use the list? How so?
2. It also appears HillPAC paid about three times as much as most other buyers. The Clinton Foundation, the Democratic National Committee and the Impact Center all paid $274,297.45, while HillPAC paid $822,492.35. Why did HillPAC pay so much more? Do you think it’s possible that payment could be seen as a contribution or debt relief payment?
3. I noticed that nearly all of the staffers of HillPAC were former staffers of the 2008 campaign. Some were even being paid by the campaign at the same time. Did all of the people being paid by Hill PAC have distinct duties related to HillPAC? Is it possible that some people were being paid for duties related to the campaign with HillPAC funds? A common criticism of leadership PACs is that they act as "holding PACs" for a politician’s staffers between gigs. Is that true of HillPAC?
4. The FEC wrote Hill PAC a few times asking for clarification on expenses related to catering, venues, printing and photography. I also notice HillPAC paid quite a bit in moving expenses. Is it possible that some of the campaign’s expenses were taken care of by HillPAC?
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Emily Kopp > wrote:
Hi Nick -
Thanks for your email. Happy to talk when you have the chance. I work freelance and I haven't placed this one yet - maybe The Nation. Sorry I can't be more specific!
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Nick Merrill > wrote:
Hi Emily,
My name is Nick Merrill and I'm Secretary Clinton's press secretary. I'm writing with regard to the inquiries you've sent to some former HillPAC officials, and was hoping to catch up to discuss your questions. Would there be a good time today to talk? I am gathering information to address your questions, but am also hoping to know what outlet you're writing this for. I'm on the road a bit but let me know what works, and what your timing is.
Thanks very much.
Nick
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Emily Kopp
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@emilyakopp
Re the sham PAC quote, HillPAC became active again after the presidential campaign was over so what campaign did it operate in support of? This is a sham premise.
Maybe I'm missing something.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 9, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Shelly Moskwa <
[email protected]> wrote:
Adding Capricia and this is making me mad -- HP accomplished so much in such a short time. My thoughts are below.
Why did HillPAC contribute "less than 25%" of its money? HillPAC was a short, four month, full-speed-ahead effort, designed to create maximum impact the for all levels of the dem ticket, which it did in a very tight time frame under unique circumstances.
Lets not forget that HP was rekindled on July 1 with NOTHING -- only $5000 in the bank - and after that managed to raise enough funds to accomplish hundreds of events, dozens of emails, hundreds of thousands raised, both directly and indirectly, for others.
It could not have done so much in so little time without the valuable resource of the HCFP list, and therefore rented it for a multiple-use contract. In the fall of 2008, that list was fresh, energized, dedicated, etc, probably the best on the market (Obama's
list wasn't for rent then). One can not buy or instantly create those attributes -- the organic value of the list, which was sown over many prior months, was invaluable to the effort of HillPAC. HP made direct contributions, which are apparent on the FEC
report, but it also helped in other ways - it sent dozens of emails on behalf of other candidates, asking list members to donate directly to those candidates, to walk door-to-door for those candidates, to send emails to their friends and families about those
candidates. It was a grass roots operation and effort as much as a financial/contribution effort, and the GR can not always be measured by the figures from an FEC report. Was HP the leanest operation around? Maybe not. But did it accomplish invaluable things
for the dem ticket that no other politician was capable of at the time? Yes - no one else had the time, the political capital, and the ability to gather the same level of resources and put them to use.