Post: #26

South Florida isn't perfect, but it's definitely at least a lesser of evils compared to most places in the USA. Keep in mind it's still an American metro area, so all the problems with dysfunctional women, high stress levels, people worried too much about cars, sports, money, etc. are still present.

The best long term solution for most of us will probably be to spend most or all of our time abroad. That's what I'm starting to realize.

Post: #27

i have a pure disdain for american women and culture

i dont think i could be truly happy in ANY city in America.

Post: #28

(01-06-2012 06:32 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  I feel like the ratios and abundance of hot women make hot women more personable. They're not hot shit in Miami like they are in DC.

That's the key. If there's no competition around then even 5s can act like complete bitches.

I'd rather be at bar/club with arrogant 8s and 9s then to be at a sausagefest with not even a 7 in sight.

And that's the reality for most DC guys.

Post: #29

(01-06-2012 07:10 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

(01-06-2012 06:32 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  I feel like the ratios and abundance of hot women make hot women more personable. They're not hot shit in Miami like they are in DC.

That's the key. If there's no competition around then even 5s can act like complete bitches.

I'd rather be at bar/club with arrogant 8s and 9s then to be at a sausagefest with not even a 7 in sight.

And that's the reality for most DC guys.

Ha.

I love how a thread can start with something "out there" like comparing the merits of Thailand VS Croatia and always seems to end up with people posting about how much DC sucks.

I am just waiting now for a new poster to come on and claim that "DC is actually really good for girls" to make the thread complete.

Post: #30

I'm being harsh on South Florida. It actually isn't that bad, it's just Aspen's much better (IMO, only cause of my lifestyle, many people might not like it). There is a huge abundance of beautiful women in MIA, but they have the worst attitudes of anywhere I've been. Someone was talking about how they hooked up easily if Ft. Lauderdale, but from what I here FTL is much different than MIA, and it's mostly white girls, which I'm not much into. Lots of guys tell me to head up there to game.

Basically IMO Miami is the worst of what Latin America has to offer but probably a little better than what many American cities have to offer. It's basically 2nd and 3rd generation latinas mixed with a few who have come from Latin America and become Americanized. Every now and then you'll find a genuinely feminine warm latina. While there are much worse places, MIA isn't the type of spot you wanna game unless your bank roll is up to par and your game is real strong. The competition is fierce. You have so many rich and good looking guys your competing against, it makes it hard some times.

I do like Miami, it's just Aspen has just about everything I want. It is full of Brazilian girls, you step foot in the right bar and you would think you are somewhere in Brazil, it's crazy. And, they aren't the stuck up Americanized Brasileiras either, they're on vacation, ready to have some fun. And like I said, where else do you get 3 months a year off and get your job back when you return? Aspen's an easy place to make money if you work in the tip industry. Work 10 hard years and it shouldn't be hard to save the money to make some nice investments.

Post: #31

(01-06-2012 07:10 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

(01-06-2012 06:32 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  I feel like the ratios and abundance of hot women make hot women more personable. They're not hot shit in Miami like they are in DC.

That's the key. If there's no competition around then even 5s can act like complete bitches.

I'd rather be at bar/club with arrogant 8s and 9s then to be at a sausagefest with not even a 7 in sight.

And that's the reality for most DC guys.

I used to think this as well, but it's not always the case. I just realized this on my trip. For example, in Miami if I approach 10 8-9's, maybe 4 of them will look at me like I'm a retard for approaching them, and not even say a thing to me. 3 of them will talk to me for a couple minutes and then walk away. 2 will have a conversation that won't lead anywhere. And maybe I'll get one bang or maybe only even a make out. This will even apply to 6's and 7's in MIA.

In Aspen, I approach 10 6-7's. 1 of them lets me know she isn't interested but still acknowledges me. 4 of them I have good conversation with but it leads nowhere. 3 of them I make out with. 2 of them I bang.

I'm not saying this is exactly what happens, but it gives you an idea. I'd rather bang 5 6's and 7's a month than one 9.

I always had the same train of thought up until this trip. I always thought I'd rather be surrounded by bitchy 8's and 9's, but after trying to game them for the last year (extra snobby ones at that), it feels amazing to go somewhere where the 7's and 8's are friendly and all seem into you. I had girls giving me eye contact all over the place.

If I was in a place like Brazil with an abundance of 8's and 9's, sure, I'd probably take it over a place with friendlier 6's and 7's, cause in a place like Brazil, those 8s and 9s still aren't gonna be too hard to game (Unless you're gaming at high end clubs). But a place like Miami, forget about it. I'd take Aspen with its abundance of 6's and 7's all day over Miami's 8s and 9s. Even the 8s and 9s in Aspen are much friendlier than 6s and 7s in MIA.

You would think in a place with a lot of gorgeous women that it would make them more humble because of the competition, but that's simply not the case in MIA. It's more like the 6's and 7's see how the 8's and 9's act and they think they can get away with it too, and they can. Ask anyone familiar with MIA. I see 6's-7's bottle whoring all night at the top end clubs. It's these beta rich men with no game who use cash as their crutch. Plus the men who holler at anything with a vagina, it boosts these girls egos.

Obviously it would be better to be in a club packed with bitchy 8's and 9's than a club packed full of men with no 7's. But sometimes it's much better to be in a place packed with 6's and 7's than a place packed with 8's-9's. After all, the goal is to bang right? You're gonna have much better luck at the bar with 6's and 7's. But again, I guess this all just depends where you are. I had to laugh a couple weeks ago when a kid I know told me, "It doesn't matter where you are, girls are the same everywhere." Yeah right, try going out to the clubs in Brazil, then coming here to South Beach, and then going to the bars in DC and let me know your results.

I'm telling you, if you experience what I have in the last year you'd agree. If you have real tight game game and a big bank roll like G or Mixx, Miami would be great, but if you're an average playboy, forget about it. I'm not gonna sit here and say my game is even close to G, Roosh, or Mixx's level, but I definitely don't do bad at all. In Aspen I pull more than 95% of the other men in town. But coming out to MIA it's a whole different ball game.

Post: #32

Sorry for posting 3 in a row, but just to put it in to perspective...

In Miami you see way more 8's and 9's than you do in Aspen, but in Aspen I pull much higher quality. That says something about even though you're in a place full of 8's and 9's it doesn't necessarily guarantee better quality. It's nice to look at, but not necessarily nicer to pick up. From what Roosh and many others have said about Argentina, it seems to be the same case. The girls are gorgeous, but that doesn't necessarily mean you are gonna hook up with a bad bitch while you're down there.

Like I said and G said, if you have that top notch game and a big bank roll, MIA is gonna be your spot. I think even top notch game isn't enough in MIA, I really believe you have to have the bank roll to match. If you don't have the high bank roll, you'll probably do better in places like Coral Gables or the Grove where you have lots of college girls. I seem to do pretty well in that area, only problem is it's so far away.

Fun story about The Grove:
I went to a party a couple months ago down in the grove. I met a girl and we started talking. I can't remember what I brought up, but she said something to the extent, "My boyfriend is on the way, I don't think he'd be happy if he saw me talking with you." I responded, "Think he'd be mad he saw you making out with me?" Immediately she started making out with me. She grabbed me and took me to the back room, but I had to take a piss before I fucked her. She started jerking me off while I was waiting in line for the bathroom. All of a sudden her friends are banging on the door, yelling how her boyfriend just showed up. When the girl said her boyfriend was on the way, part of me thought she was full of shit and the other part thought she might be right. The girl keeps going though. Another minute goes by and I realize it's serious when the girls come knocking again yelling, "He's coming in, we tried holding him off as long as we could but he's coming in!" I tell her, "Look, go outside, act like you were in the bathroom, I'll come out in 5 minutes." We did exactly that, but once I get outside, the drunk girl goes up to her best friend who came with her boyfriend and said, "I want to you meet someone," went up, and introduced her friend to me. Her bf had to know what was up, luckily most the people at the party were my friends and none of them knew the bf, so I was in the clear. I went up close to the girl and told her, "Chill!" They ended up leaving a couple minutes later, that was about as close of a call as I've had without actually getting caught red handed with a girl cheating on her man with me.

Post: #33

Quote:I used to think this as well, but it's not always the case. I just realized this on my trip. For example, in Miami if I approach 10 8-9's, maybe 4 of them will look at me like I'm a retard for approaching them, and not even say a thing to me.

For all the sh*t I spit on my site and on this forum, this happens to me all the time also. I have said it before, no one and I mean no one I think has been more straight up rejected than me. Especially when I was younger. Nowadays not so much, or maybe because my Game is so strong now, I don't even notice it. I "next" girls real quick now and don't give it a second of my thoughts.

That being said, it all comes down to what you are used to. I cut my teeth a lot as a young G in Hollywood. And it was back in the day when Hollywood was a million times more ruthless than today.

South Florida to me seems so much more Smoothed out and Soft compared to Southern California. And yes Ft. Lauderdale is ultimate arbitrage. There are more latinas there than this board gives credit too. At least in my experience. Maybe Mixx would differ, and I would defer to him as he has gone out there more than me.

Quote:I had to laugh a couple weeks ago when a kid I know told me, "It doesn't matter where you are, girls are the same everywhere."

I have heard morons say that too. That is a sure sign that some guy in not all up in The Game.

Sounds like Aspen is your spot.

Embrace it holmes.

Post: #34

I dont cold approach often and thus never have experienced a chick IGNORING me.

Although ironically this happened to me at a p4p club in Cartagena called Elektra.

I asked a girl why she wasnt dancing and the CUNT just completely ignored me.

I figured it was because she didnt hear me so I touched her to get her attention and she completely blew me off.

I couldnt believe this bitch's rudeness and it really fucked with my brain as it was the first time I have experienced this.

Cant imagine dealing with that on a reg basis. Guess you would get use to it after a while.

Post: #35

(01-06-2012 07:40 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  Obviously it would be better to be in a club packed with bitchy 8's and 9's than a club packed full of men with no 7's. But sometimes it's much better to be in a place packed with 6's and 7's than a place packed with 8's-9's. After all, the goal is to bang right? You're gonna have much better luck at the bar with 6's and 7's. But again, I guess this all just depends where you are. I had to laugh a couple weeks ago when a kid I know told me, "It doesn't matter where you are, girls are the same everywhere." Yeah right, try going out to the clubs in Brazil, then coming here to South Beach, and then going to the bars in DC and let me know your results.

I have friends who just cant understand this concept. That's why I'm so thankful I found this forum.

Post: #36

G, I've spent a ton of time in Cali, but mostly when I was young and not into game. My fathers an old surfer dude from Orange County and I was born there, left when I was 7, but I would spend at least a month or two there every year til I was 18, spending most of my time in Orange County, particularly San Clemente and Laguna Beach area (Killer beaches and breaks in San Clemente). When I did go back when I was older, I was always with family, I only spent 2 nights out with some friends about 2 years ago. The first night I was out there weren't many girls (In Huntington), I don't think my friends knew the spots to go for girls, nor really cared. The second night out, they took me to my first (And probably last) rave in Hisperia (middle of the dessert). What a shit show. The girls were easy obviously since they were ravers, but it just wasn't my scene. So I can't give much input on gaming in Cali other than the girls are beautiful. Cali has the most beautiful white girls I've seen anywhere. But that said, it has nothing to do with how gaming would be down there, just like I've mentioned above, it all depends on how the girls act. My cousin is living in San Diego and confirmed that women out there are terrible. She says she only has 2 girlfriends out there and that most girls won't give the guys the time of day unless they are pulling $100k + a year. My cous comes from Aspen but has traveled extensively all over the world. She's traveled more than anyone I know and for the last 6 years, I believe she spent 4 of them living in London and Thailand. She tells me she finds it hard to make friends in American cities that don't have an international population. She thinks Americans are too wrapped up in their own circle to make new friends. I don't agree with that being a man in the US, for me it's easy to make friends here, but being a women I could see it being a little harder, where the women are bitches and the men only want to fuck you.

You saying "For all the sh*t I spit on my site and on this forum, this happens to me all the time also." Should be a good eye opener to guys who are on a cold streak and are doubting game. If it happens to the experts, it will happen to the best of us. You just gotta have that mentality like you were saying, "I 'next' girls real quick now and don't give it a second of my thoughts." That's a good mentality to have.

Post: #37

(01-06-2012 09:20 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote:I had to laugh a couple weeks ago when a kid I know told me, "It doesn't matter where you are, girls are the same everywhere."

I have heard morons say that too. That is a sure sign that some guy in not all up in The Game.

Sounds like Aspen is your spot.

Embrace it holmes.

You know the crazy thing is the kid is into game. He introduced me to a couple books including "The Selfish Gene." He told me the book "The Game" changed his life, and he's dating one of the flyest white girls I've ever met. He has a weird steeze though. He just likes to pull one fly ass girl and stay with her. That's just his thing, but he's good at it. Before this girl he was dating an actress/model here in SoBe. But for some reason he thinks girls are the same everywhere, and you never have to change up your game anywhere. He's even traveled to Argentina, Mexico, and Paraguay. The kid trips me out. The girl he's dating now lives in South Africa and he doesn't cheat on her. IDK how he does it.

Post: #38

Money can't buy happiness, but it's a good down payment on it.

Post: #39

InternationalPlayboy, are you talking about the South Beach scene or mainland Miami?

Post: #40

Quote:The only good thing about it is we have top notch care

I wish that were true.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/p...2009-08-10

More Americans die from medical mistakes than car accidents. The conservative estimate is that 200,000 people die a year from medical errors, making it a #3 killer. That doesn't sound like top notch to me. We pay more and get less.

Quote:Heart disease: 616,067
Cancer: 562,875
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 135,952
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 127,924
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 123,706
Alzheimer's disease: 74,632
Diabetes: 71,382
Influenza and Pneumonia: 52,717
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 46,448
Septicemia: 34,828

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm

Post: #41

(01-07-2012 04:47 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:The only good thing about it is we have top notch care

I wish that were true.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/p...2009-08-10

More Americans die from medical mistakes than car accidents. The conservative estimate is that 200,000 people die a year from medical errors, making it a #3 killer. That doesn't sound like top notch to me. We pay more and get less.

Quote:Heart disease: 616,067
Cancer: 562,875
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 135,952
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 127,924
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 123,706
Alzheimer's disease: 74,632
Diabetes: 71,382
Influenza and Pneumonia: 52,717
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 46,448
Septicemia: 34,828

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm

Yeah, but have you looked at the stats in other countries as well? I've heard lots of bad things from places in Europe and all sorts of other places. A friend was just telling me today how a friend of his had to fly back to the us when he was in germany because a lot of the equipment didn't look suitable for him and the medicines they gave him were really weak. I know in a lot of places in Latin America no one uses the government medical care systems. I know these places are cheap but the quality can be low and it can take a long time to see the doctor. I feel like a lot of these statistics are from Americans being unhealthy such a diabetes, stroke, heart disease and cancer. A lot of americans as most of us know have a pretty unhealthy diet.

Post: #42

(01-07-2012 06:07 AM)Donald Duck Wrote:  InternationalPlayboy, are you talking about the South Beach scene or mainland Miami?

Both. I mean mainland Miami can be better, but depends where you are. It seems the further away from downtown and brickell you get the better. I spend most my time on the beach though since that's where I live and I don't have a car.

Post: #43

I'm applying for the police now. If I get any of the positions i'm gunning for (I've got a real good chance as they're desperate), $42k salary + some overtime & maybe a takehome car. I live in a ghetto right now, with very few bills, but might live at home. Save tons of money, and, year or two later, buy one low cost property. Rent half or whole of property out, repeat. I might have to take some out in a loan, but not a lot--enough to have my savings or salary cover it.
f I play my cards right, rather than the past 5 years I've had I'll be thirty, have 2 rental properties, and a solid job.

Post: #44

(01-07-2012 11:32 PM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  I'm applying for the police now. If I get any of the positions i'm gunning for (I've got a real good chance as they're desperate), $42k salary + some overtime & maybe a takehome car. I live in a ghetto right now, with very few bills, but might live at home. Save tons of money, and, year or two later, buy one low cost property. Rent half or whole of property out, repeat. I might have to take some out in a loan, but not a lot--enough to have my savings or salary cover it.
f I play my cards right, rather than the past 5 years I've had I'll be thirty, have 2 rental properties, and a solid job.

Yeah good luck with that unless you're buying properties in Detroit or Flint, Michigan.

Post: #45

(01-08-2012 02:27 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Yeah good luck with that unless you're buying properties in Detroit or Flint, Michigan.

Baltimore. It's about the same as Detroit or Flint, just not quite as bad.

The house next to me is a decent two-story rowhome, and sold for $23,500. Not the down payment, but the actual whole home.

Post: #46

(01-08-2012 04:32 AM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 02:27 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Yeah good luck with that unless you're buying properties in Detroit or Flint, Michigan.

Baltimore. It's about the same as Detroit or Flint, just not quite as bad.

The house next to me is a decent two-story rowhome, and sold for $23,500. Not the down payment, but the actual whole home.

How much could you rent it out for a month?

Post: #47

(01-08-2012 05:24 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 04:32 AM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 02:27 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Yeah good luck with that unless you're buying properties in Detroit or Flint, Michigan.

Baltimore. It's about the same as Detroit or Flint, just not quite as bad.

The house next to me is a decent two-story rowhome, and sold for $23,500. Not the down payment, but the actual whole home.

How much could you rent it out for a month?

I was going to ask the same question. I am surprised that you can find such cheap homes in the states.

Anon i would appreciate if you could bust a datasheet about Baltimore, there is none on here.

Post: #48

Quote:I've heard lots of bad things

I provided some studies and numbers. I think those are superior to anecdotes. If you have links to share I will check them out.

Post: #49

(01-07-2012 12:51 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  Money can't buy happiness, but it's a good down payment on it.

Interestingly, I have made the opposite decision. As of 2012, my clear priority in life is making money.

I was a former drug trafficker who had loads of money and women at one point. Things happened, times changed, and ever since I served my time I've worked my ass off in school, work, and with game. Work and game are the hard way, my friends. I don't enjoy it. I want what I once had. I was a king.

For the millionth time in my life I am climbing another steep mountain. Hopefully, my last.

I made the same decision this year. People who say money is the root of all evil don´t have it. Money will give you freedom.

I´m networking heavily on Angola. If evertyhing goes acording to plan I might post some info.

My primary choice was Brazil. But it´s much more closed market.

Angola is making their first steps in legislation concerning investments, etc, etc.

Anyway as for prices of houses in Brazil check this site (I´m the lawyer of this real estate in Portugal):

http://www.remax.com.br/Default.aspx?Lang=en-US

Post: #50

(01-08-2012 05:47 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 05:24 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 04:32 AM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 02:27 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Yeah good luck with that unless you're buying properties in Detroit or Flint, Michigan.

Baltimore. It's about the same as Detroit or Flint, just not quite as bad.

The house next to me is a decent two-story rowhome, and sold for $23,500. Not the down payment, but the actual whole home.

How much could you rent it out for a month?

I was going to ask the same question. I am surprised that you can find such cheap homes in the states.

Anon i would appreciate if you could bust a datasheet about Baltimore, there is none on here.

This is a great time to purchase properties. There is nice apartments and townhouses that can be had for 80K in my city and much cheaper if it needs renovations.

Put a decent down payment on a 30 yr fixed and you can rent it out for well over the monthly mortgage.