Post: #51

(03-13-2016 01:34 PM)elimanning Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 01:28 PM)jayko Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 01:15 PM)elimanning Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 01:09 PM)jayko Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 12:58 PM)elimanning Wrote:  Definitely not western. Probably somewhere in the FSU. I had success with these women in the past.

Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia or Belarus I suppose? have you started learn some Russian language skill?

Mainland Chinese do view ABC in a cool way for the most part. But I can't say the reverse is true. I am overseas Chinese, I find talking to Mainland Chinese is easy as long as you speak their lingo, and show your interest in knowing the country and culture there.

Yes, learning Russian is paramount, just like learning Mandarin is required resume for gaming Chinese girls. If you want the pretty ones.

I enjoy talking to the Chinese, they are our countrymen.

Russian script is giving me hard time, it is so much different than what we used to. but if you put in effort, I am sure you will get there. So now you are back in the States and planning your FSU trips and slays?
Mandarin is essential, if you know the dialect,now that is an added bonus for sure. lol

No, I'm still in Guangzhou, researching business ideas. Need to continue learning mandarin. My orignal reason was to talk to Chinese girls, but its more for my personal heritage. My Mandarin continue to still sucks, going to keep at it until I'm decent. Learning how to read and write now. I have started researching Russian Language. Just studying both now as my new hobbies and working out. I am no longer putting in any effort to meeting them. Redirecting the energy into making money instead and enjoying Guangzhou the city.

Do enjoy your Guangzhou stay in the meantime, practicing verbally or/and written should help you better improve on your language skills. I'm not sure about Russian/Ukraine population in Guangzhou, your best bet is to look for university exchange student in your surrounding if wanna practice Russian. hit up baidu and do a search for local forums that has foreign exchange student info. all the best in your languages learning.

Post: #52

I've only been to the main Chinese cities(Shanghai, Beijing etc) and I was blue pill when I visited them. One thing however I've noticed about East Asian countries is this: the value of your western background actually diminishes as you leave the country's economy center. Meaning your value is the strongest in Tokyo, Shanghai,Seoul and not Aomori, Fuzhou or Ulsan. People always tend to mix up true value and novelty factor. While novelty can be a strong driving force for value, it does not replace value completely. You can probably get a few bangs out of this cities for being something new and fresh but your bangs are directly linked to how little of the world your girls have seen.

If you look at major cities like those I've mentioned above, these are cities where your Western background, English ability etc has a direct push on your value as a man. These are cities that have natives paying thousands for English teachers to teach them what they need in order to clinch that next promotion, that next business deal or that next foreign partner Thus your background as an Asian American or wherever you're from is directly beneficial to your gaming of these girls. While novelty opens 30% of girls interested in you, an increased value in the correct city opens up to almost 80% of the girls who want what you already have.

Your value is determined by your location. Being able to speak Turkish probably wouldn't open much doors for you in China but speaking Chinese certainly would. Similarly, speaking English may be a 'wow' factor to a girl living in a 3rd tier Asian city but since she was brought up in an environment where most of the guys can't speak English but still gets on perfectly fine with their lives(read: her father), she wouldn't be able to see the full extend of your value that can change her life.

From a purely game perspective without consideration on business opportunities and other factors, it makes zero sense to go hunting in a 2nd or 3rd tier city. Unless you live in the first tier city of the country and can speak the native language pretty fluently, your perceived value would be nothing to these girls. What do they stand to get for sleeping with a random visiting foreigner to their 3rd tier city that they probably never see again? You would then be banging all your chances on hoping she would do it for pure novelty sake.

In addition, since this thread is on Asians travelling Asia, our novelty factor is already lower than that of any other races. We don't have much to work with when we can literally blend into the crowd if you're planning to work with novelty alone.

Just something I've learnt along the way in gaming Asian cities. I've had more bangs in all the 1st tier cities than anything beyond each country's economical capital.

Post: #53

(03-14-2016 01:30 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  I've only been to the main Chinese cities(Shanghai, Beijing etc) and I was blue pill when I visited them. One thing however I've noticed about East Asian countries is this: the value of your western background actually diminishes as you leave the country's economy center. Meaning your value is the strongest in Tokyo, Shanghai,Seoul and not Aomori, Fuzhou or Ulsan. People always tend to mix up true value and novelty factor. While novelty can be a strong driving force for value, it does not replace value completely. You can probably get a few bangs out of this cities for being something new and fresh but your bangs are directly linked to how little of the world your girls have seen.

If you look at major cities like those I've mentioned above, these are cities where your Western background, English ability etc has a direct push on your value as a man. These are cities that have natives paying thousands for English teachers to teach them what they need in order to clinch that next promotion, that next business deal or that next foreign partner Thus your background as an Asian American or wherever you're from is directly beneficial to your gaming of these girls. While novelty opens 30% of girls interested in you, an increased value in the correct city opens up to almost 80% of the girls who want what you already have.

Your value is determined by your location. Being able to speak Turkish probably wouldn't open much doors for you in China but speaking Chinese certainly would. Similarly, speaking English may be a 'wow' factor to a girl living in a 3rd tier Asian city but since she was brought up in an environment where most of the guys can't speak English but still gets on perfectly fine with their lives(read: her father), she wouldn't be able to see the full extend of your value that can change her life.

From a purely game perspective without consideration on business opportunities and other factors, it makes zero sense to go hunting in a 2nd or 3rd tier city. Unless you live in the first tier city of the country and can speak the native language pretty fluently, your perceived value would be nothing to these girls. What do they stand to get for sleeping with a random visiting foreigner to their 3rd tier city that they probably never see again? You would then be banging all your chances on hoping she would do it for pure novelty sake.

In addition, since this thread is on Asians travelling Asia, our novelty factor is already lower than that of any other races. We don't have much to work with when we can literally blend into the crowd if you're planning to work with novelty alone.

Just something I've learnt along the way in gaming Asian cities. I've had more bangs in all the 1st tier cities than anything beyond each country's economical capital.

Interesting theory... My friends and I are of the opinion that exoticism actually does better in 2nd/3rd tier cities. Like every motherfucker in Seoul can speak English, but once you go to Daegu or Daejeon, I'd think that my perceived value as a fluent English speaker with travel and relative cosmopolitan lifestyle would be demonstrably more high value to local girls.

I know of several Korean American guys who moved from Seoul to Suwon and Gwangju respectively and they both bragged about how the girls they could get there were much hotter... And Suwon is only like 30-40 km's from Seoul proper...

Post: #54

(03-14-2016 08:19 PM)booshala Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 01:30 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  I've only been to the main Chinese cities(Shanghai, Beijing etc) and I was blue pill when I visited them. One thing however I've noticed about East Asian countries is this: the value of your western background actually diminishes as you leave the country's economy center. Meaning your value is the strongest in Tokyo, Shanghai,Seoul and not Aomori, Fuzhou or Ulsan. People always tend to mix up true value and novelty factor. While novelty can be a strong driving force for value, it does not replace value completely. You can probably get a few bangs out of this cities for being something new and fresh but your bangs are directly linked to how little of the world your girls have seen.

If you look at major cities like those I've mentioned above, these are cities where your Western background, English ability etc has a direct push on your value as a man. These are cities that have natives paying thousands for English teachers to teach them what they need in order to clinch that next promotion, that next business deal or that next foreign partner Thus your background as an Asian American or wherever you're from is directly beneficial to your gaming of these girls. While novelty opens 30% of girls interested in you, an increased value in the correct city opens up to almost 80% of the girls who want what you already have.

Your value is determined by your location. Being able to speak Turkish probably wouldn't open much doors for you in China but speaking Chinese certainly would. Similarly, speaking English may be a 'wow' factor to a girl living in a 3rd tier Asian city but since she was brought up in an environment where most of the guys can't speak English but still gets on perfectly fine with their lives(read: her father), she wouldn't be able to see the full extend of your value that can change her life.

From a purely game perspective without consideration on business opportunities and other factors, it makes zero sense to go hunting in a 2nd or 3rd tier city. Unless you live in the first tier city of the country and can speak the native language pretty fluently, your perceived value would be nothing to these girls. What do they stand to get for sleeping with a random visiting foreigner to their 3rd tier city that they probably never see again? You would then be banging all your chances on hoping she would do it for pure novelty sake.

In addition, since this thread is on Asians travelling Asia, our novelty factor is already lower than that of any other races. We don't have much to work with when we can literally blend into the crowd if you're planning to work with novelty alone.

Just something I've learnt along the way in gaming Asian cities. I've had more bangs in all the 1st tier cities than anything beyond each country's economical capital.

Interesting theory... My friends and I are of the opinion that exoticism actually does better in 2nd/3rd tier cities. Like every motherfucker in Seoul can speak English, but once you go to Daegu or Daejeon, I'd think that my perceived value as a fluent English speaker with travel and relative cosmopolitan lifestyle would be demonstrably more high value to local girls.

I know of several Korean American guys who moved from Seoul to Suwon and Gwangju respectively and they both bragged about how the girls they could get there were much hotter... And Suwon is only like 30-40 km's from Seoul proper...

In the case of Suwon, its too close for any significant differences. Its like Yokohama and Tokyo or Subang and Kuala Lumpur. The major selling game point is that all the girls in Suwon are looking to do something in Seoul(work, study etc) but can't afford Seoul's rental rates and have to settle in Suwon and face the daily commute. Thus, these girls actually DO see the value in you since they are essentially Seoulites apart from the fact that they live in Suwon. They probably work in Seoul, study in Seoul, have dates in Seoul with their bfs etc.

As for Daegu or Daejeon, girls may be hotter but I bet the average rejection or flake rate is higher. I've experienced this in almost all Japanese 2nd tier cities. The girls are definitely hotter and more "innocent" as compared to Tokyo girls but on average, I take longer to strike up anything close to the bangs I get in Tokyo. Let's just forget about Osaka, despite being the city with the "realest" Japanese where people are generally more friendly than anywhere else in Japan, I've encountered a dry spell everything I'm in the city but then I digress.

In general, it really matters on your own experiences and if it works for you, why fix what's not broken? But in a general sense, if you're coming to a country for a first time or are just visiting as a tourist, your chances would be much much higher if you just stick to 1st tier cities.

Post: #55

^^ Hmm, great data points and very well reasoned. 9/10 WB.

Post: #56

Just came back from a conference in Taiwan. Sorry to yfc4 who was dropping by Singapore, couldn't meet you as promised when this propped up last minute. Anyways, I really like the look of Taiwanese girls but I hate their accent. I speak mandarin and I generally just dont like lazy speech, regardless of languages, Taiwanese Mandarin tend to be abit lazy on the tongue and have this slur or drag that some guys find cute but I just find it annoying.

Regardless, it was a 3 day weekend trip so I wasn't expecting much and since I was there for a conference, day game was out since I wouldn't have the time and I don't have the stamina to pull an all nighter at clubs since I have to be in at 10am daily. This is how the trip went:

Flew into Taipei early in the morning. Since it was a conference, there was the possibility of either getting a hotel recommended by the organisation or to settle for my own place. I chose Airbnb which looking back was abit of a mistake. I haven't predicted that the girls at the conference were going to be hot so I opted for my own place because I didn't want to risk conference members to see me pulling random girls back to my room. So I settled on an apartment near XimenDing which was a couple of subway stations away from where my conference was held. It started around 2pm and I was observing the people who were in attendance, most of the guys were pretty beta and looked like nerds. There was a surprisingly high number of hotties so I knew I had at least something to work with.

The first break we had around 5pm was for dinner and I've been flirting with the few 7s at my table, a Taiwanese, a Mongolian and one from China. I had my eyes set on the Mongolian since 1. she had the best English and 2. I haven't got my Mongolian flag yet. I could feel the Taiwanese would be a cockblocker since she was the lowest 7 of the group and I was right. She was constantly flagging for my attention that I knew she would be the easy lay and backup if the other 2 didn't bite. So if the Taiwanese didn't need gaming and my target was the Mongolian, who do you talk to most to get your target interested? The bitch from China. I was chatting with all of them but focused on the Chinese girl most, bidding my time. When the 3 girls went off to the washroom and the Mongolian girl came out first, I knew it was my opportunity. I went for the number close and told her we should get some drinks tonight and hang out. She smiled and agreed and when the other 2 girls came out, I led the way back into the conference theatre.

After everything ended, I told the girls that I got my own place over at XMD and the Taiwanese girl went "oh, so secretive" with a huge grin on her face, it was almost laughable but I gave Mongolian girl a text to see if she was still on about drinks, she replied 10minutes later and told me to recommend a place. I fixed a place near my apartment and she was down.

I went back, took a shower, wore something nice and went out to the bars early. I wanted to get some digits first in case the night didn't turn out good. Around 10pm, the Mongolian girl came...together with the 2 girls. I had to mask how pissed I was but oh well, its just going to be another stupid shit test. So instead of sulking like a little boy, I decided to be cool with it and got the first round of drinks for everyone. Just the first round but I figured it was the best fuse to an otherwise potentially awkward situation. It worked and the night went well with the rest of the drinks being paid for by the girls themselves, The Taiwanese even bought ME a drink. Lol.

Day 2 of the conference went pretty fast and I knew it was my last chance to get the lay with the Mongolian chick and I suggested to her she come over for some drinks at my place and I made sure to emphasize I was only inviting her. I was tired of wasting time and if she didn't bite, I wasn't going to waste another night with her and go out hunting for other targets. She said okay and when she showed up at my place on time, this time alone. She was dressed in a sexy tight black dress so I knew she was probably DTF. We talked over drinks and I went for the kiss. I'm a legs kinda guy and man, when a girl wrap her legs behind your back as you bang, its a sight. She also turns out to be really open, got nudes after banging and a nice cuddle.

When we went back on the last day for the closing ceremony, the Taiwanese girl probably didn't know I banged the Mongolian the night before so she continued her obvious flirting. The Mongolian girl had her flight out earlier than me so I had a few hours in the city before having to go to the airport. Since she's been acting like a little puppy the whole time, I decided to give the Taiwanese what she wanted. I banged her in my apartment before going off to the airport. The sex was pretty lousy when you had the Mongolian the night before but it was okay.

It was a good trip but the highlight was definitely the Mongolian girl. Damn, I got to get more of that.

Post: #57

Any pics?

Post: #58

After reading all this stuff I'm hankering to head back to asia, does anyone know of good mandarin programs that are short to long term? I can't read or write which makes my interactions really awkward besides in person. I'd like to go do a 3 months to a years program, the major issue I find is the whole application process for universities.

Post: #59

(03-25-2016 10:28 PM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:  After reading all this stuff I'm hankering to head back to asia, does anyone know of good mandarin programs that are short to long term? I can't read or write which makes my interactions really awkward besides in person. I'd like to go do a 3 months to a years program, the major issue I find is the whole application process for universities.

Which country/city are you looking to do your program?

Post: #60

(03-25-2016 09:16 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  Any pics?

Yes but for the sake of privacy and security, I don't send pics across the net, especially at this time where the mass media propaganda paint us as a pro-rape group. RVFers who meet me in person know I show photos then.

Post: #61

^^
I was thinking of doing my program in mainland china or taiwan, I'm used to modern amenities. The caveat is it's more expensive to live in taiwan, so it's a trade off. I'm looking towards a major city in mainland china, I was thinking guangzhou but there's a lot of cantonese. I would never do it in singapore, I lived in singapore for a part of my life and I would never pick up chinese living there, I used constantly to get by.

What would be really interesting would be to do a chinese program in another similar country, but I don't know how that would work.

Post: #62

(03-26-2016 10:11 AM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:  ^^
The caveat is it's more expensive to live in taiwan, so it's a trade off. I'm looking towards a major city in mainland china, I was thinking guangzhou but there's a lot of cantonese. I would never do it in singapore, I lived in singapore for a part of my life and

Taiwan is very expensive and you will be stuck on that island. Its Taipei or Bust.

At least in China you can travel around and its cheap and allows you to save money.

Guangzhou speaks mostly mandarin now. Its 2016, there is an influx of people from all over China. You won't hear that much Cantonese talk, those days are over. The communist party has push for Mandarin as the official language.

I am learning mandarin now in Guangzhou. I was initially worry about that. I found out quickly that only the older people speak Cantonese. The young one speak mostly Mandarin. A few young people speak Cantonese, but most young people speak mandarin to each other.

Post: #63

^ Guangzhou is a good choice if you want to remain in a fairly modern city but still with lower prices than say Taipei or Shanghai. I haven't personally been to Guangzhou but many RVFers have and have written datasheets backed by others so I say its a pretty solid location. Mandarin is a hard language to learn and all the more requires local immersion.

Post: #64

what are the price points for studying in taiwan? I checked mainland china it varies from 2-4k USD a year for some programs, which isn't really a lot. But, a lot of the lower price point universities are in the bumble fuck nowhere, like gansu.

I'd prefer guangzhou a bit, I visited there a while back and liked the weather in winter but haven't been in summer. I tried daygaming a few chinese girls and got complete deer in the headlights look so much I just backed off.

Post: #65

(03-26-2016 10:45 AM)elimanning Wrote:  

(03-26-2016 10:11 AM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:  ^^
The caveat is it's more expensive to live in taiwan, so it's a trade off. I'm looking towards a major city in mainland china, I was thinking guangzhou but there's a lot of cantonese. I would never do it in singapore, I lived in singapore for a part of my life and

Taiwan is very expensive and you will be stuck on that island. Its Taipei or Bust.

At least in China you can travel around and its cheap and allows you to save money.

Guangzhou speaks mostly mandarin now. Its 2016, there is an influx of people from all over China. You won't hear that much Cantonese talk, those days are over. The communist party has push for Mandarin as the official language.

I am learning mandarin now in Guangzhou. I was initially worry about that. I found out quickly that only the older people speak Cantonese. The young one speak mostly Mandarin. A few young people speak Cantonese, but most young people speak mandarin to each other.

Taipei is perhaps slightly more expensive than the average Tier 1 city in China (though I assume cheaper than Shanghai), certainly not "very expensive". It doesn't really matter that you're on an island since you can get cross-strait flights for peanuts.

Advantage of China is you'll meet foreign guys doing something else than English teaching, which is very difficult in Taipei. Definitely more networking opportunities.

Quote:what are the price points for studying in taiwan? I checked mainland china it varies from 2-4k USD a year for some programs, which isn't really a lot. But, a lot of the lower price point universities are in the bumble fuck nowhere, like gansu.

About the same in Taiwan.

Post: #66

I would recommend China as well. If you could afford it, stay in a 2nd or 1st tier Chinese city. Unless your desire is to purely learn Mandarin then it honestly doesn't matter if you're stuck in some Chinese village because everyone speaks Putonghua(standard mandarin) due to the CCP. If you have other goals and objectives apart from learning mandarin, like networking or gaming girls then its worth paying to do your program in a better Chinese city. As for Taiwan, cross over for long weekend trips if you want to check it out. Most foreigners in Taiwan, as mentioned, are largely English teachers.

Post: #67

On a side note, this comedy skit by a South Korean TV show hit the nail on the shits that bitches say and what how men should band together to help each other. I found it pretty hilarious.

Post: #68

I'm looking into getting into a decent sized city in china, honestly in mainland china every provincial capital is massive compared to what I'm used to in Canada. The city where I was born has as many people as the GTA area and less than half the landmass. Considering I've been living and working in small towns anything 1mil or more is big to me. I'm actually looking at the northeast of china, as much as I hate to admit it; I'm used to the cold and think I would feel more at home there, I was looking at schools in Liaoning or around there.

I'm looking to learn my own language, immerse myself in my own culture, and date chinese girls. I went on a date with a cute fob chinese girl and was blown away by her demeanor. I felt so out of touch it was ridiculous, I didn't know what to do, the greatest irony is we didn't speak english at all (her english was terrible). As for meeting and hanging out with foreigners or making connections why would I do that in China of all places? I grew up with everyone except chinese and asian people.

Post: #69

(03-27-2016 10:39 AM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:  I'm used to the cold and think I would feel more at home there, I was looking at schools in Liaoning or around there.

I'm looking to learn my own language, immerse myself in my own culture, and date Chinese girls. I went on a date with a cute fob chinese girl and was blown away by her demeanor. .

Liaoning is decent. But you be making alot of sacrifice. Word on the street is they haven't made alot of infrastructure improvement. It is not the most modern place. What they offer are taller girls only. But that doesn't equal hotness. China has limited supply of hot girls, I would guess it is around 10-15 percent.

You may want to consider Beijing. Its a modern city, with cold weather. Beijing is a very big city and is the capital of mandarin education. In the month of September and October is pretty nice. No humidity and no cold weather. At least for two months you get a break. But when winter comes, so does pollution. Beijing winter pollution air is a problem. It doesn't snow alot there, its just dry cold air. Its a friendly city to foreigners.

Guangzhou rains alot, think Seattle meets Hawaii. But has alot of trees, so the trees keep the air clean. Monsoon in March and the summer and winter. When it rain, it rains. There are mosquito issue here. You will have to deal with the super searing heat in May-September, you will need an umbrella for both the rain and sun.

China has very unfriendly weather and pollution. But its a sacrifice you will make to get away from feminism, in order to reach a place that is still a patriarch. Men are still respected and value.

Post: #70

Have you been to any other northern cities? Harbin is a huge northern metropolis with a ton of people. As for unfriendly weather and pollution I don't care so much anyways I can deal with that.

Post: #71

Apart from just looking for a good city with a decent population, you might also want to consider factors such as how connected is the city to the rest of the world. Are there direct flights out to nearby countries cause you're definitely going to get bored after some time no matter how much you love the city initially. As for why you could consider making friends with other foreigners and connections in China, well there are tons of opportunities in China and you may find yourself staying longer as you find new goals and opportunities unlocked for you as you build your circle of friends there. Many RVFers have found financial success in China and there's no reason why you can't be the next one if you put effort into it.

Post: #72

I heard it was nice in Hangzhou

Post: #73

I'm not going to lie, I'm pretty leery when people always talk about business in china; especially from foreigners. The ownership system in the PRC is pretty tight, it's not like a foreigner can waltz in and start up shop right away. Most guys I've seen in china are english teachers or if they are doing a "business" they're not really running a chinese business, just doing import export. But everyone's doing import export from the illegal african immigrants to westerners trying to make a buck. Also talking to people in china and building connections, what is that really? They tell you about some cool opportunities, but can you really capitalize on it or are they going to keep you hanging?

btw can I was looking into Kunming, it seems it's really warm also on the vietnam border it's close to SEA.

Post: #74

I just came back from a trip in Bali and was considering writing this report on the Bali threads but decided to pen it down on this thread instead because of the overwhelming white tourists in Bali and gaming as an Asian would be very different from what our white brothers experience.

Walk around anywhere in Bali, be in Kuta, Ubud or Seminyak and you would see that most tourists were Australians or just white in general. This is reflected in the nightscene as well. Locals were also more receptive to whites as well and it was seemingly true that Asians would have a great uphill battle in Bali. However, I've gotten my Indonesian flag and could have possibly converted if I stayed longer than my 5 day stay.

Forget daygame, you're wasting your time in Bali.

Online and Nightgame is the way to go.

I used only Tinder but I pipelined 2 weeks before the trip and got a few leads that I intended to convert to dates once I got over there. My Bali flag was through Tinder and she was one of those "swipe left if you're looking for a hookup" girls so game away on girls who say things like that. If she's on tinder, she's down to hook up.

I had dates scheduled in the evening since I was travelling with friends and was out with them till night time. I only checked out the nightlife once and it was the infamous skygarden in Kuta. Its 5 storeys of music and drunk australians and it was honestly a waste of money heading in. However when I was getting drinks, I noticed the asian guy in front of me and subsequently spotted him again dancing away in the corner of the 5th storey rooftop bar. He came alone and danced initially by himself. He had solid dance game and managed to attract quite a buzz after awhile and I noticed bitches were reacting to him. I was genuinely impressed with the dude's game since he went on to game one of the hottest onlookers. Verdict: Skygarden's still possible since there's probably one asian to every 100 australian white man in there, as long as you got alittle bit of game and the girl isn't looking for white dick that night, its pretty good.

However, I was mostly on dates with the girls I pipelined. I highly recommend Potato Head as a dating spot. Get one of those private mats overlooking the sea and step up your kino as you drink and watch the sunset, its almost too easy.

I would advise the first time visitors to focus on online game and line up a few pipelines to convert to dates. Daygame is pretty useless since the talent on the street is pretty bad so you're better off doing the water activities or exploring Bali in the day.
One exception would be the waitresses or sales staff of shops. Target the Western brands that Westerners would stay away from since they have it in abundance back home. These shops are normally deserted midday and the girls working in them are bored and will be receptive to game. I've gamed the sales staff of Havaianas, Quiksilver and the other brands and have gotten quite a few numbers back. Unfortunately, I was on a short trip and was really trying to gauge how possible it was to game shop staff and collect potential leads for my next trip.

In conclusion, Bali isn't the hardest place in the world for Asians. As long as you have good game and have a couple of days, pipeline a week before and you're good to go.

Post: #75

I hardly see any Asians gaming in Bali. It's either Chinese and Japanese group tourists staying mostly at Nusa Dua or Asian couples. It's very rare to see an Asian or groups of Asians in a club with the exception of Indoensians from Jakarta.
Places like Jenja are all white dudes and girls too who are on holiday. Did not see many Asian dudes doing game at all.