Post: #101

(10-01-2015 10:28 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  That's plausible, yes. But I'd be interested to know whether guys, in fact, are a bit thirstier in Slovakia than in Czech Republic. Does anybody have any actual experience of both countries' women and is in a position to offer an opinion on this?

Like I said, I have 10 years experience traveling to both countries and living in one and neither country has thirsty guys. Slovak guys have slightly less choice due to their economic situation and more conservative women but I would never consider them thirsty. The only thirsty guys in either country would be tourists or expats.

Post: #102

(10-02-2015 07:09 AM)Brick Top Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 10:28 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  That's plausible, yes. But I'd be interested to know whether guys, in fact, are a bit thirstier in Slovakia than in Czech Republic. Does anybody have any actual experience of both countries' women and is in a position to offer an opinion on this?

Like I said, I have 10 years experience traveling to both countries and living in one and neither country has thirsty guys. Slovak guys have slightly less choice due to their economic situation and more conservative women but I would never consider them thirsty. The only thirsty guys in either country would be tourists or expats.

Cheers for that - that's fair enough given that you've at least lived there for 10 years and have experience of both countries. But would you say that there are any regional differences at work in the Czech Republic as far as the approachability, sweetness, ease of pullability, of women there? For example, do you think it would be a better bet to stay in the east of the country rather than the west?

Post: #103

(09-27-2015 11:30 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  Countries women always say they want to visit/live:

1.Italy
2.Spain
3.Australia
4.US

Basically the worst ones for dudes, and best for girls.

Can't blame them. They intuitively recognize the dating market let's them date up in those places.

How many girls are crazy about Belarus, Ukraine, Columbia, the Philippines? Ha. Not many.

This comment does a full 180 on the truth of the matter. It calls out one gender in complete hypocrisy.

The more accurate statement would be that men are the ones who can be trusted to choose destinations based on their higher dating market value. They're the gender more tied to this behavior, not women. Men pay airfare to go to dreary Eastern Europe looking for eager local women, cheap living, and not much else. They don't go for the food, the traditions, the landscape. In comparison to the mentioned destinations of Italy and Spain, there is such little scenic beauty or cultural value to be found in FSU places like Ukraine. It's the beautiful FSU women that make that forsaken region a target at all for men.

When it comes to Southeast Asia, a more exciting and pleasantly tropical place, there are indeed female tourists that stream there, to Vietnam, to Thailand.

Between men and women, it's bizarre to accuse women of being the gender that travels with sex on their minds.

Italy, Spain, and Australia are salubrious and safe places to thoroughly enjoy every aspect involved in taking a vacation: food, beach, art, events, historical icons and national treasures. If the sex drive of men and women were both neutralized, we would keen to visit these places. Children would have that preference for similar reasons. There is some middle ground with SA and SEA. The same can't be said about FSU destinations.

Post: #104

(03-09-2016 02:53 PM)surfer Wrote:  

(09-27-2015 11:30 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  Countries women always say they want to visit/live:

1.Italy
2.Spain
3.Australia
4.US

Basically the worst ones for dudes, and best for girls.

Can't blame them. They intuitively recognize the dating market let's them date up in those places.

How many girls are crazy about Belarus, Ukraine, Columbia, the Philippines? Ha. Not many.

This comment does a full 180 on the truth of the matter. It calls out one gender in complete hypocrisy.

The more accurate statement would be that men are the ones who can be trusted to choose destinations based on their higher dating market value. They're the gender more tied to this behavior, not women. Men pay airfare to go to dreary Eastern Europe looking for eager local women, cheap living, and not much else. They don't go for the food, the traditions, the landscape. In comparison to the mentioned destinations of Italy and Spain, there is such little scenic beauty or cultural value to be found in FSU places like Ukraine. It's the beautiful FSU women that make that forsaken region a target at all for men.

When it comes to Southeast Asia, a more exciting and pleasantly tropical place, there are indeed female tourists that stream there, to Vietnam, to Thailand.

Between men and women, it's bizarre to accuse women of being the gender that travels with sex on their minds.

Italy, Spain, and Australia are salubrious and safe places to thoroughly enjoy every aspect involved in taking a vacation: food, beach, art, events, historical icons and national treasures. If the sex drive of men and women were both neutralized, we would keen to visit these places. Children would have that preference for similar reasons. There is some middle ground with SA and SEA. The same can't be said about FSU destinations.

If I remember correctly, women and homosexuals are not welcome to post here.

Post: #105

^^^ almost certainly a woman, why would any logical, rationale & masculine man make a post like this?

The faulty logic is so easily broken down I won't even bother picking it apart.

Reported her to the mods

Post: #106

In Asia, thirst is still low almost everywhere you go. However, I have noticed that thirsty foreigners bring their thirst with them wherever they end up.

For example, in Bangkok. The Thai locals are very picky and seem to keep their women in check. Yeah - everyone thinks Asian guys are beta, but why are their women so much better behaved?

Meanwhile, it seems like 9/10 foreigners in Bangkok have zero standards, cower to bitchy/insane girls, recklessly throw money around (weekend millionaires), rely purely on online game (even very average Thai girls get bombarded with messages after opening a Thai Friendly account) or otherwise date bargirls. Contrary to popular perception, these are not all old divorcees. Bangkok now has many young guys who should be cleaning up, but are instead pursuing girls who are far below their potential.

Irish mentioned Roppongi in Tokyo. Same thing. Japan is a country full of scorchingly hot women who are thin, feminine and submissive. The complete package. Who do the foreigners end up dating? The dregs almost every time. And word eventually gets out that foreigners have no standards...

For me this shows how mental "thirst" is. You can take a good-looking, tall westerner and he will act just as thirsty in Asia as back home. It's all in the head.

It wouldn't annoy me so much if these behaviours only fucked over the thirsty guys and didn't change these girls for the worse. But it affects us all. The only solution (if you are LTR orientated) is to search for girls who have been in less contact with foreigners, but this pool seems to shrink yearly. It is what it is. We will all probably be OK, but I wonder how things will be for players after a couple more decades of globalization.

Post: #107

(03-09-2016 02:53 PM)surfer Wrote:  When it comes to Southeast Asia, a more exciting and pleasantly tropical place, there are indeed female tourists that stream there

Sure, but it's only the men who stay.

I'll admit that I do get a certain sense of pleasure when I witness the difference in demeanor between a cocky and entitled western girl who's been in Asia for 6 days, and the demoralized and depressed western girl who's been there for 6 months. They all leave soon enough, hopefully taking with them an understanding of what swathes of western men feel.

You should be grateful for your amazing luck, miss. You were fortunate enough to be born into the best dating market a woman could ever possibly be born in. Count your blessings and be humble, and try to understand what it would be like were the shoe on the other foot. The ban hammer will be here shortly.

Post: #108

A further anecdote that just popped into my head.

I knew an Austrian guy in Japan who was super beta. When we worked together, he admitted to only banging one girl in his life (his ex-Japanese wife). A few times, I would take him out to bars but he just wouldn't approach. Super shy and just awkward around women. I kind of wrote him off as unsaveable.

Then along came Tinder. This guy set up an account and ended up sleeping with about 10 girls in a few months. He has good facial genetics but zero game. As far as I could tell, his bangs came almost purely from coasting on his looks.

Not to hate on the guy (I like him!), but I think that this is a perfect illustration of how the sexual marketplace has changed. Guys who would never have the balls to approach are flooding online sites and dating apps. As a result, even average girls are getting inundated with attention and becoming pickier and pickier. None of this is new to you guys, but I think that "online thirst" is now one of the biggest factors to consider - not just the relative thirst of local guys.

Post: #109

Japan-wise, there is a saying among locals that "those who date foreigners are ugly and can't get a proper Japanese man" Put aside all that xenophobic bullshit and you see the disturbing truth. I have encountered many foreigners who come from a country without a significant Asian population classify all the women they see in Japan as hot from the justifiable 8s to plain jane 4s. Initially this was almost always the same but as time passed and they spend more time in Japan, they start to differentiate and start adopting local taste buds.

Japanese guys are thirstiest I've ever met. Coupled with weak game and general creepiness, God is fair in making Japanese women inherently attracted to Japanese men or the country would have went extinct centuries ago. The "Indian man stare" is just as common as the "Japanese men stare" in bars and clubs as they glance literally up and down any women who walks pass with a condescending snobbish look with the signature suit and briefcase, its almost laughable because they could do that for hours without doing a single approach. I would go up to them sometimes and say "you do realize they're real and not the shojo anime you secretly read at home right?" and they wouldn't get the sarcasm.

After the fact that 80% of Japanese men are going to have weaker game than you sinks in, sometimes the men are more interesting than the women, at least they make me laugh, albeit at them.

Post: #110

^^ I'd argue that Japanese guys in night venues are kind of an anomaly. They do indeed act thirsty, but the general population? Not really.

My Japanese friends are among the pickiest motherfuckers you'd ever meet. Most Chinese or Koreans are similar.

Post: #111

Yeah, they are picky as hell yet don't do anything to improve their game and if they can't get any girls they would always blame a myriad of factors like "oh they are materialistic bitches", "oh they only like foreigners." Basically blaming everyone/everything but their lack of game. Didn't phrase the first post on the pickiness part, my bad on that!

Post: #112

Yeah was gonna say. My Chinese and Japanese single friends would sometimes drive me crazy. As you said, they complain about not getting girls while being extremely picky and doing nothing to raise their own level. Almost "anti-thirsty".

Overall though, if your average guy is this way it makes for a better sexual market. It sucks for the individual guy, but I'm not that against it overall.

Contrast anti-thirsty Japanese or Chinese to Anglosphere guys - no standards for women but seemingly getting more jacked and better dressed by the year. The "frame" is totally broken. In a healthy society, it's the women who are making the effort.

Post: #113

Why thirst is so low among locals in asia?
Especially in places like china.

Are people working too hard to not think about pussy?

Post: #114

(03-10-2016 09:48 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  Why thirst is so low among locals in asia?
Especially in places like china.

Are people working too hard to not think about pussy?

To answer that question, I think you also have to consider why the thirst is so high in the West, especially in the Anglosphere. Factors such as "third-wave" feminism (misandry by another name), a surplus of high-status men, government subsidisation of women through welfare, bad sex ratios when high rate of female obesity is taken into consideration, et.c., are just some of the things that come to mind here.

But, perhaps the most salient of all, seems to be the fact that in East Asia - in stark contrast to the Anglosphere - most men don't live in the frame of women, i.e., there is a cultural barrier to the betafication of men which acts as a natural brake on male thirst reaching the proportions it has in the West.

Post: #115

People need to stop hanging out with locals who are kind of losers too to avoid confirmation bias when it comes to thirst.

Locals in asia who have it going on clean up make no mistake about that. I have pretty good local friends in P.I. and a couple in Thailand and they do insanely well and their social circle always has girls hanging around. These aren't filthy rich guys driving porsches either but just middle class and a few upper middle class types who have decent jobs and have some game.

Post: #116

This thread is incredibly painful to read, but I agree with a lot of it. One solution I have found to compete against male thirst is to approach women in situations where they are not used to getting approached. Day game is the only solution as a vast majority of these thirsty men don't actually have the courage to make a move on attractive women during the day. And it is generally refreshing to women to get picked up this way by someone who has even basic skills. These women get hit on constantly online and in night life venues due to non-existent approach anxiety online and the liquid courage factor at night.

Generally speaking, the same thirsty guy who would sloppily make a move on a girl at night after 4 shots of tequila and 2 beers doesn't have the balls to make the same move on the same girl during the day time amongst an audience of strangers within earshot. Use that to your advantage. It is one of the best ways to fight against the out-of-balance SMV that women have in these thirsty places...

Post: #117

(03-10-2016 09:48 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  Why thirst is so low among locals in asia?
Especially in places like china.

Are people working too hard to not think about pussy?

In two words: less socialism (feminism is just socialism for women).

Despite several Asian countries saying they're communist or socialist, in practice, if you're not working, or don't inherit power - and keep it - then you're literally starving, or close to it.

Contrast that with the West, which is increasingly rewarding laziness with handouts taken from productive people, and there's your explanation.

Post: #118

What has that gotta do with it?
So the guys are just trying to make money and work hard?
Ithink east asia is extremely beta.

Post: #119

If you are not thirsty, and good in bed, you will set yourself apart from the throngs of thirsty betas.

Post: #120

(03-10-2016 06:22 AM)Bushido Wrote:  Then along came Tinder. This guy set up an account and ended up sleeping with about 10 girls in a few months. He has good facial genetics but zero game. As far as I could tell, his bangs came almost purely from coasting on his looks.

How hot were they?

Post: #121

(03-10-2016 06:36 AM)Bushido Wrote:  ^^ I'd argue that Japanese guys in night venues are kind of an anomaly. They do indeed act thirsty, but the general population? Not really.

My Japanese friends are among the pickiest motherfuckers you'd ever meet. Most Chinese or Koreans are similar.

Many times the pickiest guys show the most thirst if you could ever listen in on their conversations or texts.

It is a way for them to not fail by casting so many women aside.

These guys end up often married to 5's. Or girls that blow up as fatties.

Post: #122

(03-10-2016 06:22 AM)Bushido Wrote:  A further anecdote that just popped into my head.

I knew an Austrian guy in Japan who was super beta. When we worked together, he admitted to only banging one girl in his life (his ex-Japanese wife). A few times, I would take him out to bars but he just wouldn't approach. Super shy and just awkward around women. I kind of wrote him off as unsaveable.

Then along came Tinder. This guy set up an account and ended up sleeping with about 10 girls in a few months. He has good facial genetics but zero game. As far as I could tell, his bangs came almost purely from coasting on his looks.

Not to hate on the guy (I like him!), but I think that this is a perfect illustration of how the sexual marketplace has changed. Guys who would never have the balls to approach are flooding online sites and dating apps. As a result, even average girls are getting inundated with attention and becoming pickier and pickier. None of this is new to you guys, but I think that "online thirst" is now one of the biggest factors to consider - not just the relative thirst of local guys.

To be honest, online game saves a lot of time and money. Think about it, how much time and money you spend going out with the boys trying to get some poon at the club.

The game has changed, but I think for the better. I've used tinder to meet girls I would never have the chance to meet, since day / night game is all about luck in terms of logistics.

If you're decent looking online game is an easy enough crutch for 5/6s. I agree for 7+ it gets significantly harder and day game / social networking is where you'll probably have the best success.

Post: #123

(03-10-2016 07:22 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  What has that gotta do with it?
So the guys are just trying to make money and work hard?
Ithink east asia is extremely beta.

No, what less socialism means is that the girls can't rely on the state to bail them out of bad decisions, like getting knocked up by non-provider alpha bad boys.

That in turn means more guys will pursue a civilization-building beta provider track, because for them, that's a better reproductive strategy than being said non-provider alpha bad boys (who don't build civilizations by the way, because they DGAF - Don't Give A Fuck).

Remember, alpha and beta aren't inherently good or bad. They're just mating strategies that succeed or fail depending on the incentives.

Post: #124

(03-10-2016 09:48 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  Why thirst is so low among locals in asia?
Especially in places like china.

Are people working too hard to not think about pussy?

Men in Asia don't put their women on a pedastal.

Women know their place, plain and simple.

Asian men I see don't have much respect for "their" women, they tend to get thirsty for white women.

Post: #125

Asian guys do P2P way too much.

There are 'Asian' brothels in my current city in houses near the Universities essentially catering to all the fuerdai and their equivalents from the other Asian countries.

This could be why they are less thirsty. They would rather not be seen with an unattractive girl and would prefer to pay than bang a 5.

These 5s are often seen with Westerners.