Quote:Hate speech has no place online – or in society.

Translation: Submit to our ideology or we will destroy you. You have no actual freedom of speech or freedom of association despite what's written in the constitution or what we, the liberals suffering from cognitive dissonance, claim to stand for.
Liberalism = totalitarianism. Simple as that.

(01-19-2016 03:12 AM)kaotic Wrote:  So it begins, the censorship of Europe and the truth about the immigration:

Quote:Facebook: Social Network Announces European Initiative to Combat Extremism and Hate Speech

The internet gives voice. It helps people share the moments that matter to them – and stand up for the things they believe in.

In the past year, we've seen millions of people come together online to support refugees and stand in solidarity with the victims of terror attacks. But we’ve also heard voices of hate growing louder. With extremism damaging lives and societies across the world, challenging those voices has never been more important.

Deleting content won't make the hatred go away. We can't just treat the symptoms - we have to treat the cause. We need the voices of tolerance and love to ring out across the world, because the best remedy to bad speech is more speech.

Today Facebook joined Peter Neumann, The Institute for Strategic Dialogue and the Amadeu Antonio Stiftung to launch the Online Civil Courage Initiative – a joint project to encourage people to speak up against hate. Thank you to State Secretary Gerd Billen and the Ministry of Justice (Bundesministerium der Justiz und für Verbraucherschutz) for your support and leadership.

Hate speech has no place online – or in society. Together, we can make sure the voices of peace, truth and tolerance are heard. Love is louder than hate. ‪#‎zivilcourage‬ ‪#‎civilcourage

Oh how glad I am to see this.

It reads like something Lenin and the old Mao Red Guards. This is how people like Pol Pot, Mao get to power and descend into barbaric mass slaughter of anyone who opposes them and anyone they think is against them.

By suffocating peoples ability to speak out loud on issues which concern them in mainstream platforms, they will inadvertently place them into the alternative media stream. Before you know it you have two polar opposites, both bitterly loathing of the other side. What does this lead too? More punishment, more normal people going to prison for thought crime.

Well done cuckerberg, history repeats itself. You cannot control human nature.

Brutal video from the captain, don't save them hoe's, let them feel the consequences of their actions. Would anyone here put their live on the risk and try to save a strange women from getting raped by a gang of immigrants?

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http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...-heim.html

Quote:Inzwischen bekunden vierzig Prozent der Deutschen, nur noch hinter vorgehaltener Hand oder besser gar nicht über dieses doch immerhin existenzielle Thema zu sprechen. Eigentlich undenkbar für eine offene Gesellschaft.

Während nach jüngsten Umfragen mehr als 60 Prozent der Bevölkerung das uneingeschränkte Kommen von Asylbewerbern und jenen, die sich unter sie mischen, kritisch sehen, sitzen im Parlament fast flächendeckend Parteien, die pro Zuwanderung sind.

The whole article is quite long. In short it tells that everyone that is critical with the now situation of the refugee crisis get the label as a racist and nazi. All things we know already so no need to translate all the details even when its a brilliant analysis.

I just quote two numbers:
40 % of Germans do not dare any more to speak free about their opinion with the refugee situation because of the racist / nazi shaming.

60 % of Germans disagree with Merkels open border politics.

Furthermore its mention that all political parties carry on the open border politics, Merkel brake the EU law and the German law but blame for example Hungary and Orban when they follow the EU law. Then that Merkel isolate Germany and has no more supporters. Maybe only Austria.
Scary thing to feel history happen live. Germany isolated again in the history. Merkel gamble with the peace in the society but also with the peace in Europe.

As a side note, Merkel gets also more and more internal critics in her party for her politics. This situation now we should all keep in mind. Its something where we actual see history happen. 9/11 was something like this and the migrant invasion is the same. Just on a bigger scale.
Still its not a hard hit, its a process that increase exponential with a big blow at the end.

(01-19-2016 02:03 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  Jews have always been around 2% of the Western population. Even assuming the much bandied about figure of 115 IQ compared to "100" European mean is accurate, the "smart ratios" still don't make sense. As in, how smart do you have to be to be a revolutionary or a subversive? IQ 125? 145? Regardless of the exact IQ cutoff, there are many times the number of white gentiles with that IQ than Jews simply because there have always been 50 times the number of gentiles in the Western world.

This bears itself out in other fields of endeavor, where Jews, while being over-represented relative to their share of the population, are by no means dominant in the same way they are in finance, the media, and as destroyers of traditional society. I am referring to science, engineering, and all of that philosophy and social thought which is not subversive by design.

Also ask yourself this: when you think of "great" Jewish thinkers, who immediately comes to mind as having the greatest amount of influence? It is undoubtedly Freud and Marx, the birthers of the most poisonous and subversive schools of thought in the history of the Western world. IQ is a metric that is agnostic of intent, so why do genius gentiles become Kant and Goethe while genius Jews become Freud and Marx?

I still don't buy it. For every Marx there's an Einstein, but the absence of jews from non-philosophical arenas could be the ashkenazi jew's IQ boost being mainly in the area of literary intelligence. Failing that, it wouldn't surprise me if plain old nepotism was at work considering the solidarity of the jewish identity.

It's easy to select the worst of a race or a religion. but I haven't seen enough evidence of a grand design by jews working either in concert or individually against gentile or western interests. It just doesn't seem to be the presiding factor grouping the elites.

The Zuckerberg-Sandberg Initiative is kicking into high gears in Germany:

"Facebook Inc (FB.O) began a Europe-wide campaign on Monday to thwart extremist posts on social media, after German politicians in particular raised concerns about a rise in xenophobic comments linked to an influx of refugees.

Facebook Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg said hate speech* "has no place in our society", including in the Internet.

(*hate speech is anything deemed problematic for the rulling globo-homo elites.)

Chancellor Angela Merkel has urged Facebook to do more, and the Justice Ministry set up a task force with Facebook and other social networks and Internet service providers with the aim of identifying criminal posts more quickly and taking them down.

On Friday, the firm said it had hired a unit of the publisher Bertelsmann to monitor and delete racist posts on its platform in Germany."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-facebook-idUSKCN0UW25C

"Bertelsmann is not publicly listed and is majority owned (77.4%) by the Bertelsmann Foundation, a non-profit organisation and political think tank set up by the Mohn family."

"Elisabeth (Liz) Mohn and her children own 19% of German media conglomerate Bertelsmann. She is the widow of Reinhard Mohn (d. 2009), who represented the fifth family generation in Bertelsmann. Key holdings include a 53% stake in the world's largest book-publishing group, Penguin Random House, and 75.1% of the leading European entertainment network, RTL Group, which went public on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange in 2013. The Luxembourg-based RTL owns stakes in TV channels and radio stations in Germany, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Spain, Hungary, Croatia and Southeast Asia. Bertelsmann also owns 100% of Europe's biggest magazine publisher, Gruner + Jahr. Mohn exercises veto power over decisions made at the level of the holding company, in which 100% of Bertelsmann shares are parked. She serves on the supervisory board of the company and on the board of the Bertelsmann Foundation, which owns 81% of the company and focuses on education and fostering mutual understanding and dialogue between different nations and cultures...In 2003, Reinhard and Liz Mohn received the Teddy-Kollek Prize awarded by the Jerusalem Foundation for distinction in actively promoting German-Jewish understanding. (During the Nazi era, Bertelsmann published antisemitic and pro-war propaganda books.)"

Cliff notes:

Childless Angela Merkel (member of the Bilderberg Group) and her government invite millions of culturally and ethnically and religiously incompatible non-Europeans to their country, with the provision that leftovers will be forcibly sent to other EU member states. They do so without consulting, let alone asking for permission, of any of their own citizens in any way, shape of form.

Facing increasingly vocal native population who are asking legitimate questions about such policy sense, they opt to double down and censor (and eventually) criminalize anyone who dare to criticize them or analyze things for what they are.

They start by asking socmedia giant Facebook to engage in censorship on their behalf. Facebook, being reliant on low-paid third world e-workers in places like the Phillipines, can't do that effectively, so they outsource the task to the German firm Bertelsmann, the same company which during the "Nazi era, published antisemitic and pro-war propaganda books".

This way, due to outside influences Germany is forced to self-sensor on the path in their self-destruction ("atoning for their WWII sins") because of traitorous impulses of a few rich, well-connected families in their midst, who are in it for their personal gains, cash, castles, and bling, and could care less about anything outside of it).

This in a nutshell is not the case only in Germany but is the general state of any western liberal democracy of today. Whereby once these people would've been hung from the trees, today they get to be the leaders trusted/worshiped by the majority.

(01-19-2016 08:26 AM)Speculation Wrote:  but I haven't seen enough evidence of a grand design by jews working either in concert or individually against gentile or western interests. It just doesn't seem to be the presiding factor grouping the elites.

We have covered this topic numerous times in this thread Im sure.

The jews own the banks, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bank of England, The Federal Reserve etc... Then you got rich elites like George Soros with the Soros foundation funding basically anything that promotes cultural marxism in the west.

To not go into rant mode here just research zionists if you want to know their "grand design".

It's so fitting that the Bertelsmann Foundation is being hired to act as the fist of tyranny. As the owners of RTL, they already have huge experience in censorship and pushing degeneracy onto unwilling populations.

Russian Parliament to vote in the law which will prohibit to name a nationality,ethnicity or religion of terrorists. Mentioning ISIS or word combinations like "radical islam"will also be punished. Max 5 years prison. This law was introduced in December by Chechen MPs (Sunni muslims) and received full support in Russian Duma. The majority in Russian Duma belongs to Putin's puppet party "United Russia", followed by Communists, and "A Just Russia" (a separate fraction of United Russia,same puppets basically) and Liberal democrats under Zhirinovsky.

http://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/01/2016/56...6d80d3fd49 (use Google translate)

Looks like Putin's plan of ethnic destruction of Russian society started in 1999 with opening borders to central asian muslims goes on.

I suspect that the attempts to censor Facebook are going to be a failure. There's simply way too much volume to do it effectively. At best, you will just drive people to other platforms. Every article with comments sections that I see coming out of the German media seems to be overwhelmingly against Merkel and the "migrants."

Meanwhile, I'm hearing that even in Brussels among her own center right European People's Party she is growing more and more isolated, as various factions of both left and right throughout Europe are coming around to Orban's viewpoint and saying that Europe needs to get control of its external borders.

You can't keep the truth bottled up forever. Some event is going to force Europe to clamp down, stop the boats, and start deportations, Merkel willing or not. The only question is how much damage is going to be done before it happens.

(01-19-2016 10:50 AM)Krieg Wrote:  Russian Parliament to vote in the law which will prohibit to name a nationality,ethnicity or religion of terrorists. Mentioning ISIS or word combinations like "radical islam"will also be punished. Max 5 years prison. This law was introduced in December by Chechen MPs (Sunni muslims) and received full support in Russian Duma. The majority in Russian Duma belongs to Putin's puppet party "United Russia", followed by Communists, and "A Just Russia" (a separate fraction of United Russia,same puppets basically) and Liberal democrats under Zhirinovsky.

http://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/01/2016/56...6d80d3fd49 (use Google translate)

Looks like Putin's plan of ethnic destruction of Russian society started in 1999 with opening borders to central asian muslims goes on.

I can't read Russian so I'm taking your word for it, but if what you say is true, that is really fucked up. This would go way beyond even the most censoriously politically correct practices in Cuckmany and other parts of the West. Can anyone corroborate this?

I'd also be very curious to know any statistics about movements of people from the Muslim/non-European parts of the former USSR into the heart of Russia. We take Putin to be "one of us" but with the way the world is going, absolutely nothing would make me bat an eyelid.

(01-19-2016 07:09 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  Brutal video from the captain, don't save them hoe's, let them feel the consequences of their actions. Would anyone here put their live on the risk and try to save a strange women from getting raped by a gang of immigrants?

Again, these arguments really aren't that powerful as you think because the Muzzies are targeting teenage girls who have never voted in their life. They do not deserve the punishment brought upon them by their older liberal sisters.

(01-19-2016 11:16 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 10:50 AM)Krieg Wrote:  Russian Parliament to vote in the law which will prohibit to name a nationality,ethnicity or religion of terrorists. Mentioning ISIS or word combinations like "radical islam"will also be punished. Max 5 years prison. This law was introduced in December by Chechen MPs (Sunni muslims) and received full support in Russian Duma. The majority in Russian Duma belongs to Putin's puppet party "United Russia", followed by Communists, and "A Just Russia" (a separate fraction of United Russia,same puppets basically) and Liberal democrats under Zhirinovsky.

http://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/01/2016/56...6d80d3fd49 (use Google translate)

Looks like Putin's plan of ethnic destruction of Russian society started in 1999 with opening borders to central asian muslims goes on.

I can't read Russian so I'm taking your word for it, but if what you say is true, that is really fucked up. This would go way beyond even the most censoriously politically correct practices in Cuckmany and other parts of the West. Can anyone corroborate this?

I'd also be very curious to know any statistics about movements of people from the Muslim/non-European parts of the former USSR into the heart of Russia. We take Putin to be "one of us" but with the way the world is going, absolutely nothing would make me bat an eyelid.

Difficult to say. There is official statistics which only counts in registered migrants. federal migration service reported that there are over 1 mln illegal migrants in Moscow in 2015 https://news.mail.ru/society/16407839/
Some estimations suggest that up to 2 million people in Moscow are illegal migrants. Only 300-400k of them are registered legally, according to russians sttaistics office (at http://www.gks.ru).

I think there have been videos on this forum showing full scale of migration to Moscow look it up. There is a famous video of muslims on streets of Moscow celebrating Kurban Bairam-millions of them.

The problem is that citizens of Central Asian states do not need visas to come to Moscow.A goat fucker in Uzbekistan only needs to buy a ticket to Moscow, that's it. Also, there is hardly any border controls between e.g. Tajikistan and Afganistan (as both states are massiveloy corrupt and impoverished) this thousands and thousands of Afganis are able to travel to Russia without any stops and one can hardly recognize any difference between Afgani or Tajik as they speak the same language and look the same.

The problem of migration is exacerbated by the Caucasian migrants. De-facto e.g. Chechnya is Russian Federation thus Chechens can travel freely throughout the Russia and do what they can do best-organised crime and terrorize the locals. In reality,Chechnya is a state on its own with "president" (Kadyrov) and his personal mini army.No Russian can come and,say, do business in Chechnya without personal approval by Kadyrov. The "special relation" between Putin and Kadyrov makes Chechen sort of untouchables. For example a Russian MP was publicly humiliated recently when he was made to ask for public apology after "offending" Chechen leader (in reality he just questioned how a person with 3 years school education can have phd degree).Chechens are hardcore Sunni Muslims and pursue policy of Islam. For example, 2-3 months ago Putin opened the largest mosque in Europe in Moscow-this was a result of Chechen influence.

The Russian opposition leader A.Navalny is a vivid anti-migration campaigner,as opposed to Putin's open borders policy. He campaigns for visas and work permits for central Asians, a financial separation of Chechnya and other Caucasian quasi states (like Dagestan) and a full border between them and the rest of Russia. Russian propaganda portraits him as a nazi (he has participated in so called "Russian March"-a demontration of Russian nationalists and anti Islamization campaigners on number of occasions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Navalny).

(01-19-2016 09:33 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 08:26 AM)Speculation Wrote:  but I haven't seen enough evidence of a grand design by jews working either in concert or individually against gentile or western interests. It just doesn't seem to be the presiding factor grouping the elites.

We have covered this topic numerous times in this thread Im sure.

The jews own the banks, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bank of England, The Federal Reserve etc... Then you got rich elites like George Soros with the Soros foundation funding basically anything that promotes cultural marxism in the west.

To not go into rant mode here just research zionists if you want to know their "grand design".

Since you're using Roosh's forum, why don't you read what Roosh himself thinks about the Jews?

http://www.returnofkings.com/62716/the-d...rn-culture

(01-19-2016 11:57 AM)Krieg Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 11:16 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 10:50 AM)Krieg Wrote:  Russian Parliament to vote in the law which will prohibit to name a nationality,ethnicity or religion of terrorists. Mentioning ISIS or word combinations like "radical islam"will also be punished. Max 5 years prison. This law was introduced in December by Chechen MPs (Sunni muslims) and received full support in Russian Duma. The majority in Russian Duma belongs to Putin's puppet party "United Russia", followed by Communists, and "A Just Russia" (a separate fraction of United Russia,same puppets basically) and Liberal democrats under Zhirinovsky.

http://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/01/2016/56...6d80d3fd49 (use Google translate)

Looks like Putin's plan of ethnic destruction of Russian society started in 1999 with opening borders to central asian muslims goes on.

I can't read Russian so I'm taking your word for it, but if what you say is true, that is really fucked up. This would go way beyond even the most censoriously politically correct practices in Cuckmany and other parts of the West. Can anyone corroborate this?

I'd also be very curious to know any statistics about movements of people from the Muslim/non-European parts of the former USSR into the heart of Russia. We take Putin to be "one of us" but with the way the world is going, absolutely nothing would make me bat an eyelid.

Difficult to say. There is official statistics which only counts in registered migrants. federal migration service reported that there are over 1 mln illegal migrants in Moscow in 2015 https://news.mail.ru/society/16407839/
Some estimations suggest that up to 2 million people in Moscow are illegal migrants. Only 300-400k of them are registered legally, according to russians sttaistics office (at http://www.gks.ru).

I think there have been videos on this forum showing full scale of migration to Moscow look it up. There is a famous video of muslims on streets of Moscow celebrating Kurban Bairam-millions of them.

The problem is that citizens of Central Asian states do not need visas to come to Moscow.A goat fucker in Uzbekistan only needs to buy a ticket to Moscow, that's it. Also, there is hardly any border controls between e.g. Tajikistan and Afganistan (as both states are massiveloy corrupt and impoverished) this thousands and thousands of Afganis are able to travel to Russia without any stops and one can hardly recognize any difference between Afgani or Tajik as they speak the same language and look the same.

The problem of migration is exacerbated by the Caucasian migrants. De-facto e.g. Chechnya is Russian Federation thus Chechens can travel freely throughout the Russia and do what they can do best-organised crime and terrorize the locals. In reality,Chechnya is a state on its own with "president" (Kadyrov) and his personal mini army.No Russian can come and,say, do business in Chechnya without personal approval by Kadyrov. The "special relation" between Putin and Kadyrov makes Chechen sort of untouchables. For example a Russian MP was publicly humiliated recently when he was made to ask for public apology after "offending" Chechen leader (in reality he just questioned how a person with 3 years school education can have phd degree).Chechens are hardcore Sunni Muslims and pursue policy of Islam. For example, 2-3 months ago Putin opened the largest mosque in Europe in Moscow-this was a result of Chechen influence.

The Russian opposition leader A.Navalny is a vivid anti-migration campaigner,as opposed to Putin's open borders policy. He campaigns for visas and work permits for central Asians, a financial separation of Chechnya and other Caucasian quasi states (like Dagestan) and a full border between them and the rest of Russia. Russian propaganda portraits him as a nazi (he has participated in so called "Russian March"-a demontration of Russian nationalists and anti Islamization campaigners on number of occasions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Navalny).

Just done a quick research on that Kadyrov fella, and he appears to be an extremely dangerous character.

Advocate of honour killings, charlie hebdo assassinations, beheadings, and etc.

And his father got assassinated over a decade ago, before he took over a couple of years after in Chechnya. Not too clued up on how the Russian political system for regions work, but it must be difficult managing such a massive country.

That Kadyrov fella won't look out of place at head-quarters of Raqqa. I did however met a Muscuvite in August who was very angry at the increasing number of Central Asians and Mosques in and around Moscow

(01-19-2016 10:50 AM)Krieg Wrote:  Russian Parliament to vote in the law which will prohibit to name a nationality,ethnicity or religion of terrorists. Mentioning ISIS or word combinations like "radical islam"will also be punished. Max 5 years prison. This law was introduced in December by Chechen MPs (Sunni muslims) and received full support in Russian Duma. The majority in Russian Duma belongs to Putin's puppet party "United Russia", followed by Communists, and "A Just Russia" (a separate fraction of United Russia,same puppets basically) and Liberal democrats under Zhirinovsky.

http://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/01/2016/56...6d80d3fd49 (use Google translate)

Looks like Putin's plan of ethnic destruction of Russian society started in 1999 with opening borders to central asian muslims goes on.

User profile has a German name with a set location as Ukraine.

Sorry but I'll have to call bullshit.

Why don't you mention that this is a law proposal that originates from the Chechen parliament, which is autnomous, it is NOT a law from Moscow or Putin and it is NOT a law yet, nothing else than any congressman in US bringing a proposal before the congress.

Anti-Putin shills will very often make claims that Putin is 'controlled' and is secretly working to destroy Russia/white Europe and such, while anyone with a brain can see that Putin is the target of every single western/jewish media org.

(01-19-2016 01:30 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 10:50 AM)Krieg Wrote:  Russian Parliament to vote in the law which will prohibit to name a nationality,ethnicity or religion of terrorists. Mentioning ISIS or word combinations like "radical islam"will also be punished. Max 5 years prison. This law was introduced in December by Chechen MPs (Sunni muslims) and received full support in Russian Duma. The majority in Russian Duma belongs to Putin's puppet party "United Russia", followed by Communists, and "A Just Russia" (a separate fraction of United Russia,same puppets basically) and Liberal democrats under Zhirinovsky.

http://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/01/2016/56...6d80d3fd49 (use Google translate)

Looks like Putin's plan of ethnic destruction of Russian society started in 1999 with opening borders to central asian muslims goes on.

User profile has a German name with a set location as Ukraine.

Sorry but I'll have to call bullshit.

Why don't you mention that this is a law proposal that originates from the Chechen parliament, which is autnomous, it is NOT a law from Moscow or Putin and it is NOT a law yet, nothing else than any congressman in US bringing a proposal before the congress.
while anyone with a brain can see that Putin is the target of every single western/jewish media org.

Please read a link prior to commenting.

The law was proposed by Chechen MPs (who are muslims) and Russian State Duma committee has given the green light.

The voting will take place at the end of February. I will keep updated.

Quote: Anti-Putin shills will very often make claims that Putin is 'controlled' and is secretly working to destroy Russia/white Europe and such

You can't deny the fact that Putin opened the borders and his opposition wants to close them. Quite openly,nothing secretive about it.

(01-19-2016 01:15 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 11:57 AM)Krieg Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 11:16 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 10:50 AM)Krieg Wrote:  Russian Parliament to vote in the law which will prohibit to name a nationality,ethnicity or religion of terrorists. Mentioning ISIS or word combinations like "radical islam"will also be punished. Max 5 years prison. This law was introduced in December by Chechen MPs (Sunni muslims) and received full support in Russian Duma. The majority in Russian Duma belongs to Putin's puppet party "United Russia", followed by Communists, and "A Just Russia" (a separate fraction of United Russia,same puppets basically) and Liberal democrats under Zhirinovsky.

http://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/01/2016/56...6d80d3fd49 (use Google translate)

Looks like Putin's plan of ethnic destruction of Russian society started in 1999 with opening borders to central asian muslims goes on.

I can't read Russian so I'm taking your word for it, but if what you say is true, that is really fucked up. This would go way beyond even the most censoriously politically correct practices in Cuckmany and other parts of the West. Can anyone corroborate this?

I'd also be very curious to know any statistics about movements of people from the Muslim/non-European parts of the former USSR into the heart of Russia. We take Putin to be "one of us" but with the way the world is going, absolutely nothing would make me bat an eyelid.

Difficult to say. There is official statistics which only counts in registered migrants. federal migration service reported that there are over 1 mln illegal migrants in Moscow in 2015 https://news.mail.ru/society/16407839/
Some estimations suggest that up to 2 million people in Moscow are illegal migrants. Only 300-400k of them are registered legally, according to russians sttaistics office (at http://www.gks.ru).

I think there have been videos on this forum showing full scale of migration to Moscow look it up. There is a famous video of muslims on streets of Moscow celebrating Kurban Bairam-millions of them.

The problem is that citizens of Central Asian states do not need visas to come to Moscow.A goat fucker in Uzbekistan only needs to buy a ticket to Moscow, that's it. Also, there is hardly any border controls between e.g. Tajikistan and Afganistan (as both states are massiveloy corrupt and impoverished) this thousands and thousands of Afganis are able to travel to Russia without any stops and one can hardly recognize any difference between Afgani or Tajik as they speak the same language and look the same.

The problem of migration is exacerbated by the Caucasian migrants. De-facto e.g. Chechnya is Russian Federation thus Chechens can travel freely throughout the Russia and do what they can do best-organised crime and terrorize the locals. In reality,Chechnya is a state on its own with "president" (Kadyrov) and his personal mini army.No Russian can come and,say, do business in Chechnya without personal approval by Kadyrov. The "special relation" between Putin and Kadyrov makes Chechen sort of untouchables. For example a Russian MP was publicly humiliated recently when he was made to ask for public apology after "offending" Chechen leader (in reality he just questioned how a person with 3 years school education can have phd degree).Chechens are hardcore Sunni Muslims and pursue policy of Islam. For example, 2-3 months ago Putin opened the largest mosque in Europe in Moscow-this was a result of Chechen influence.

The Russian opposition leader A.Navalny is a vivid anti-migration campaigner,as opposed to Putin's open borders policy. He campaigns for visas and work permits for central Asians, a financial separation of Chechnya and other Caucasian quasi states (like Dagestan) and a full border between them and the rest of Russia. Russian propaganda portraits him as a nazi (he has participated in so called "Russian March"-a demontration of Russian nationalists and anti Islamization campaigners on number of occasions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Navalny).

Just done a quick research on that Kadyrov fella, and he appears to be an extremely dangerous character.

Advocate of honour killings, charlie hebdo assassinations, beheadings, and etc.

And his father got assassinated over a decade ago, before he took over a couple of years after in Chechnya. Not too clued up on how the Russian political system for regions work, but it must be difficult managing such a massive country.

That Kadyrov fella won't look out of place at head-quarters of Raqqa. I did however met a Muscuvite in August who was very angry at the increasing number of Central Asians and Mosques in and around Moscow

Every Russian is angry about it, naturally.

I visited Moscow twice in my life: first time in 1993 and second time in 2009. In 2009 I could hardly recognize it, every market stall, every fast food place was owned by a migrant, every taxi driver was a migrant. Very unpleasant experience.

Putin is not a white ethno-nationalist and never has been. He has obvious mongoloid admixture.

That said, first of all, Putin in 1999 was not in any way close to being the same Putin as now. Remember that Putin was brought in power by the oligarchs who feared the communist mayor of Moscow. Putin naturally did not have the same powerbase as he does now.

Even so, Russia is a FEDERATION, the integration of Caucasus into Russia was and is a necessity to avoid the CIA and US setting up shop and military bases like they attempted in Georgia and like they did in Ukraine. Putin clearly operates from a viewpoint of 'better the devil you know'. It's funny you mention Kadyrov as he is Putin's staunchest ally and the only man who has kept the peace in Chechen.

Last, so what if this bill will be voted on, it will clearly not pass. That is just the sign that Russia actually has a functioning democracy and parliament. Even today, RT.com is plastered with mentions of ISIS and Islam. What will it be, is RT now now Putin's pet newsmedia?

You clearly have an anti-Putin agenda, which you are of course perfectly ok to have, but anti-Putin shills are numerous on the internet and one of their favorite methods is to accuse Putin of being a secret 'NWO' operative or similiar nonsense.

(01-19-2016 01:46 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Putin is not a white ethno-nationalist and never has been. He has obvious mongoloid admixture.

Yes,Putin is an imperialist. He is building a multi ethnic empire.

Quote:That said, first of all, Putin in 1999 was not in any way close to being the same Putin as now. Remember that Putin was brought in power by the oligarchs who feared the communist mayor of Moscow. Putin naturally did not have the same powerbase as he does now.

Even so, Russia is a FEDERATION, the integration of Caucasus into Russia was and is a necessity to avoid the CIA and US setting up shop and military bases like they attempted in Georgia and like they did in Ukraine.

There are no military bases and "CIA shops" in Ukraine. Don't know about Georgia.

The integration of Caucasus was needed to stop further desintegration of Russia.Also to secure oil pipelines.

Quote:Last, so what if this bill will be voted on, it will clearly not pass. That is just the sign that Russia actually has a functioning democracy and parliament. Even today, RT.com is plastered with mentions of ISIS and Islam. What will it be, is RT now now Putin's pet newsmedia?

We will see. I am rather sure they will vote it in, Russian duma is a puppet show and they tend to vote yes to every proposal by the committees.

Quote:You clearly have an anti-Putin agenda, which you are of course perfectly ok to have, but anti-Putin shills are numerous on the internet and one of their favorite methods is to accuse Putin of being a secret 'NWO' operative or similiar nonsense.

Of-course I am anti-Putin.But I dont think he is a secret NWO operative. He pursues his parallel globalist agenda, not related to western jews. Divide et impera.

This is the guy I want to see as president of Russia.Russia's Trump (but without millions).Enough of Jewish oligarchs, Chechen tribal "leaders" and biggest mosques in Europe. Watch this space.

Guys, keep the whole "Ukraine and Putin" discussion out of this thread. I think the "Ukranian Conflict" still exist, keep it there.

Krieg, keep us updated on that vote.

Caught On Tape: 1,000 Dutch Villagers Storm Town Hall In Anti-Migrant Melee

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-19...rant-melee


...In the latest example of how quickly things are spiraling out of control, far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders inadvertently incited a violent riot in tiny Heesch where town officials attempted to hold a public meeting to discuss plans to take in 500 refugees in the town over the next ten years.

Hours before the meeting was set to take place, Wilders called for all Islamic male asylum seekers to be locked in their asylum centers in order to “protect our women.” Shortly thereafter, a Facebook page “Protest AZC Heesch” garnered some 3,000 likes and before you knew it, 1,000 angry villagers actually stormed the castle - literally.

“The atmosphere turned nasty, and the meeting was abandoned as dozens of protesters tried to storm the town hall,” AFP writes adding that “the town gave police extra powers after the demonstration ran out of control."

Below, find the footage....

(01-18-2016 07:39 PM)Habano Wrote:  More an anecdotal rant, but I think it fits here.

I live in a small house about half a mile away from my university. For a modest rent, I get a bedroom and share a kitchen, living room, and bathroom with two other occupants who have their own rooms. While I would love to have my own pad, it's just not in my budget as a graduate student in the area I live.

I've been at my place for about a year and a half, so I've seen occupants in the house come and go. I'm pretty easygoing and get along with most. I don't always like my housemates, but most of them have been tolerable.

The one exception has been a housemate named Abdul. He moved into the house about 2 or 3 months ago. He is the perfect combination of lazy and stupid. Everything he touches turns to shit and he has absolutely no perception of how to live with others. He sleeps during the day, rummages about the house at night, and leaves the house doors unlocked whenever he leaves.

The tipping point for me was when I left town for about three weeks during Christmas break. Abdul was the only one in the house at the time. During my short absence, the entire house went to hell. When I came back, food and half-consumed soda bottles were all over the kitchen counters and the couch. Abdul also decided that since he was the only one in the house, it would be a great idea to smoke inside. The house smelled like a cheap motel room that allows smoking. He also struggled to find the trashcan while I was gone; his wrappers, cigarette boxes, butts and paper towels littered the floor. But the bathroom was the absolute worst. Everything inside was dirty, sopping wet and growing mold. The smell was unspeakable.

I yelled at him and told him that he was disgusting. I sent some pictures of the mess to the landlord in hopes he would get kicked out. If the fucker doesn't leave soon, I'm going to bounce.

So to tie it back to the thread: living with some of these migrants is tough. I now know it first hand. I don't know if everyone leaving the Middle East is like Abdul. I certainly hope not. But it wouldn't surprise me if many of them coming to Europe and the U.S. are like him.

This gave me deja vu. I lived in a beautiful relatively cheap apartment with a 33 year old Albanian Muslim for just under a year and had exactly the same experience.

Doors left open when no one was home because he would leave last in the morning and either forget to lockup or he had lost his keys, sometimes I'd get home from work and the front door wouldn't even be shut, and this is in the city.

Everywhere he went it was like a tornado passed through, couldn't wash his hands without making a puddle under the sink, shed like a dog, combined with his tendency to enter the bathroom with work boots meant the bathroom floor was constantly disgusting (it was a godsend we had 2 bathrooms and he was only allowed to use one of them). The dude smelled rank from not showering or brushing his teeth and left a stink on the couch or wherever he went.

Made a mess anytime he used the kitchen, shit everywhere like a bomb went off, wouldn't do dishes, treated the refrigerator like a trash can. Me and another guy both had our own cookware and he would use them and leave them dirty afterwards, I had to tell him at one point not to use my shit and get his own stuff.

Constantly smoking weed and cigarettes in the apartment and on the deck even though the 3rd roommate who owned the apartment told him not to.

He would turn the heat up to the high 70s and then leave his bedroom windows open. He would go to bed and leave the TV and lights on 90% of the time. He would order movies on demand and watch 1/4 of them expecting us all to split the bill evenly.

The worst was after a huge snowstorm in the city last winter where you couldn't find parking anywhere, me and the 3rd roommate both left for the weekend leaving the Albanian there alone for 3 days. What we returned to was one of the most disgusting living situations I had ever seen. He had sat there for 3 days smoking pot, getting drunk and eating food, there was mud tracked all throughout the common areas, there was food and trash left out everywhere, on the tables, the counters, the floor, the place had a terrible smell. I'm positive the heat was cranked and the TV and lights were on the entire time as that's how it was when we entered in the middle of the day.

It was no surprise he lived like that and the other kid should have seen it coming, when he moved out his room had significant damage, the floors were fucked and the walls had a coating of filth all over them. Before moving in with us he was essentially homeless and desperate for a place to live, he had been evicted out of his last apartment and lost most of his belongings as they ended up in a storage unit that was auctioned off because he forgot the entrance code and decided not to pay the bill. He was always behind on rent sometimes by a month or more, or claiming he already paid. He was an unlicensed plumber and would work at most 4 days a week more often working only 2 or 3.

One interesting observation I made is that he was almost afraid of western white women, he didn't know how to talk to them and would act like he had no interest in them, he had a girlfriend back in the homeland who he planned to marry, from our conversations she seemed to be playing him, he was a typical frustrated chump despite being rather good looking and owning expensive designer clothes.

While the dude had a heart of gold and I had a lot of good times with him partying and going to bars, he caused a lot of arguments and was the most irresponsible adult I've ever met.