Post: #1

I'm a self employed lawyer. People are always telling me that I shouldn't be so openly chauvinistic because it will "hurt business." Words that come out of my mouth without hesitation:

"You're acting like a woman."
"Stop being such a sissy. Man up."
"Relax. Let the men take care of things."
"All that feminist crap is garbage."

I've been told that my attitude is outdated, offensive, and it will hurt business.

This is the reality...

My masculine men clients love it. It's exactly what they're thinking but feel like they can't say. In particular, my real estate developer clients who are alpha by nature. Get two masculine men in a room and by the end of the day we're close buddies. Already got a hunting trip lined up, let's cheer some scotch, watch football, and talk about hot babes. Why yes, that is a Playboy magazine on my desk. Yes, we can be men in my office.

Notably, my divorce clients are usually blue pillers who need a heavy dose of red pill wisdom, in addition to legal advice. "You know why she cheated on you with that tattooed loser who lives at home with mommy and daddy? Not because you didn't buy her enough flowers, or take her out to dinner enough like she's claiming. Quite the opposite. You acted like a female and she started to view you as one." I feel like I spend about 80% of my time dispensing red pill advice, and 20% giving actual legal advice. (funny - as I'm writing this I get a call from a divorce client. Advice - "explain to her firmly and politely that littlespoon don't make the rules.")

Of course, my female clients must hate it, right? Quite the opposite. Although on paper they want "a sensitive man who cries a lot", they actually "feel safe" with a masculine lawyer who is willing to (gasp) show some male aggression. You don't know how often I get a message like "I need a man to take care of this situation." In particular, female business owners and family law clients. Behind closed doors, they have absolutely no respect for beta males. My female clients are very forthcoming about "wanting a man to take care of things."

Does it offend people? Yeah. SJWs. Fat feminists and unhappily married guys (married to said SJWs). But does it affect business? No. They're losers and not the type of people who have money to hire lawyers, nor are they ever involved in the type of real estate stuff that I do. Ironically, sometimes they're even open about "Look, Hank, I don't like you. I think you're an arrogant sexist pig. But I do know you're good at what you do, and I'd like you to help me with something important. I need someone who will smash the opposition. I feel like the lawyer I'm using now is kind of a wimp."

My advice to anyone out there who is afraid to put their beliefs out there - do it. It helps business. Be that stubborn, pigheaded chauvinist. While everyone says on paper that they respect that man who cries, who knows what shoe size his wife is, and who eats yogurt parfait for breakfast, they're full of shit.

Both men and women prefer masculine men.

Post: #2

I'm largely self-employed here in Beijing. I don't have to deal with pesky HR departments in my line of work.

I say whatever the hell I want to, including things that would get me fired anywhere in North America.

Doesn't hurt my business at all.

I feel very fortunate to be doing what I do.

Post: #3

(10-25-2015 09:05 AM)Suits Wrote:  I'm largely self-employed here in Beijing. I don't have to deal with pesky HR departments in my line of work.

I say whatever the hell I want to, including things that would get me fired anywhere in North America.

Doesn't hurt my business at all.

I feel very fortunate to be doing what I do.

That is one of the reasons I could never have a "real job." The HR department would can me so fucking fast for saying something that's not politically correct.

Being self employed allows me the freedom to say what everyone else is thinking.

Post: #4

Hank, are you a divorce lawyer or some other type of lawyer?

Post: #5

(10-25-2015 09:14 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  Hank, are you a divorce lawyer or some other type of lawyer?

I'm in a very niche area of real estate law, mostly representing property developers.

However, I've started doing divorce work usually as a favor for real estate clients, and representing men 90% of the time. When I represent females, it's usually because her brother or father asked me to.

I have found that I actually enjoy doing divorce work because it's mostly about dispensing red pill knowledge. That, and oh the stories I can tell...

Post: #6

It's fine as long as you're firm and consistent. If a media firestorm erupts around you, you absolutely MUST NOT bow down and apologize. Barring actual judicial tyranny like in the case of the gay wedding cake, the only self-employed people who suffer harm from this kind of views are the ones who give in to the pressure and apologize.

Post: #7

This is the thing with feminism. While it sound really great and nice, it's not particularly pragmatic, especially in a world where conflict exists.

When someone sues you, they're trying to take everything you own basically. That's a conflict where if you lose, you lost a lot of things.

If someone is trying to destroy you and take everything you've worked hard for, do you want to be represented by a "sensitive" man who owns a mellon baller, cries, and needs to be held by his wife at night? Or do you want to be represented by a stone cold killer?

Same thing with women and dating, really. I can't tell you how many girls I've banged who have said something like "Sometimes I wonder if my boyfriend is gay."

Post: #8

Melon ballers are the shit.

Post: #9

100% agree Hank.

Life has become much improved for me personally as a self employed small businessman compared to when I was a cog in a wheel at a massive Canada-wide organization.

At the latter I had to watch everything I said and got endless emails about diversity, sensitivity and other politically correct drivel.

These days I'm much more myself around my customers and fellow businessmen and everyone appreciates it. The only business I may have lost out of it are from people I don't want to be associated with anyway (i.e. illiberal leftist morons and the government sector).

I do fear however that our new governments, both Federal & Provincial, will be trying to thought police people like me before too long. Best to enjoy my thought freedom while it lasts.

Post: #10

I'll add that most of the clients that are put off by chauvinism are the same ones who tend to be time vampires and emotional drains.

Post: #11

Honestly when someone gives you shit just say back what you said yourself:


Most of the people I work with not only agree with what I say, they have the money to put it where their mouth is unlike you.

When the media or some other nitwits get at you, just say it as it is and say, "The people who complain the most about this are the ones that don't have the money to hire me. Enough said!"

Frankly, i'd love it if someone did this during a media shit storm. I wish more professionals would speak candidly like this. It would make me more comfortable.

Post: #12

I think it depends on where you live, it wouldn't fly in say SF, but you wouldn't get too much flack in Atlanta or Dallas.

Post: #13

Good little read there, Hank.

Its been many, many years now since I have had to watch what I say or censor myself for employment reasons. But at one time, when I stopped giving a shit, I remember it bothered me that people whispered behind my back. Which is odd, as the same time they were whispering, I was feeling the freedom of not having to care. It was the first time that I was forced to make a decision on social groups, who I was going to leave behind.

All these years later and some of my most loyal allies are women. Even coming from all the over from the side of 'hate' I found them to be somewhat magnetized to me. At first it was for the argument, then it was for the subtle trolling, now its because they feel safe with me.

This might not be directly related, but in the last year, after all my curiosity of "where the fuck are all these feminists, I never meet them", I have begun to meet them. But what I am meeting more now are white knights and male apologists then I am female feminists.

Post: #14

Well played Hank. I've had multiple conversations in my life where a woman tells me she is a feminist. Every single one has ended with her backtracking and redefining herself as an "equalist" or some other bullshit after she agrees with me but can't hamster out of it.

Post: #15

This is the sort of stuff I love to hear and backs up my own visions of how business should be done. Regardless of what these SJWs say, the business owners, the big wigs, the guys that get shit done, and hell the winners in life, all respect a man that doesn't take shit from anyone. Anyone else that says otherwise shows their true colours and is labelled automatically in my book as a loser.

My company will never have an HR department. Bureaucracy slows progress and is where corporate America is failing; they listen to these fucking idiots and fail the most obvious of shit tests.

Post: #16

The original post is really accurate and I don't even know if I have much too add to it. I will say that a few years back, a potential client came in, started telling some beta sob story, I started laughing, and I think that made him hire me more. I don't even think my clients like me that much. I think it is more that they I know they can do a lot worse.

Post: #17

Good for you man. Way to lead by example. I like it!

Post: #18

Hank you magnificent bastard, POST MORE!

Post: #19

This is why feminists want to make all criticism illegal. If they can't (with delight) hurt your business, they want to be able to fine or jail you for hate speech - meaning any speech they decide they hate. Same goes for the fags.

Imagine a world that operates like the most PC San Francisco-based company ever. Except instead of being called into HR, you're arrested.

Post: #20

I like your spirit HankMoody and it works perfectly well as a self-employed lawyer or even in entire professions.

As a lawyer you can not only be Red Pill and masculine, but you can even be an first-rate asshole and it won't hurt your business. But that is not the case for most men out there.

Other such professions:

+ agent - both Hollywood as well as Music or sports
+ certain branches of the corporate world - Wallstreet

In Europe there still remain many professions and even the corporate world where you can be a fully masculine Red Pill man.

However the tide is shifting and the screws are getting tightened.

Look at those guys here who operated a Hipster coffeshop and were outed for having a Game/Red Pill blog:

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They were utterly destroyed and now lost their business - even scampered back to Blue Pill land as it seems.

Other men in the US as well as UK corporate world may get fired for what you said already. When a grumpy HR bitch is hovering over you, then it's difficult to be Red Pill.

Of course you are right that both men and women prefer men to be masculine and Red Pill. It feels right and when things get tough, they rather want to be represented by you or defended by Rambo than by a winy egalitarian male feminist.

Post: #21

That's because a hipster coffeeshop is about as bluepill a business as it gets. When your business model depends entirely on pleasing manginas and frumpy feminists you should expect to suffer if you piss off that customer base.

Post: #22

Amazing post. I wish I could be BE ME.

But as a consultant to big companies, even being straight on affirmative tends to hurt me. Its a bloody scenario where being a ass licking crowd pleaser tends to work your way more. Hate it.

Post: #23

John T. Reed does a good job of explaining why that is in America:

http://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s...et-segment

Quote:You guys who went to middle and high school—as I did—may need to be deprogrammed. For unknown reasons, I did not need to be deprogrammed, not even after public college at West Point where they really tried to program us.

One of the unintended consequences of middle and high school—and large, adult work organizations—is that they teach the lesson that you prosper by being popular, or failing that, at least avoiding unpopularity.

But that lesson is not true.

I think Oprah is successful because of just getting along with people. She was voted Most Popular Girl in high school. So it can be done. But the problem is that probably 95% of the other girls in her high school were consciously or unconsciously competing for that title and did NOT win.

What’s worse, probably that same 95% spent the rest of their lives continuing to try to find success by being popular with the assorted hundreds of people around them on a daily basis—trying to be Oprah—or at least avoiding offending the people around them.

Probably the most successful person in my lifetime is Steve Jobs. He revolutionized at least six industries in spite of dying young, not graduating from college, being exiled from the company he co-founded for ten years, and being a world class jerk. He won no popularity contests in school or afterward.

First off, understand that only a tiny percentage of us are Oprah. Trying to be her or anyone else you are not is suicidal.

You may, for example, be a great sculptor. Does that require being personally popular—or avoiding offending others? Not at all. Your personality is irrelevant in the sculptor business.

Post: #24

If one actually works in Academia - unless you're a tenured professor, good luck with that attitude, you'll be fired. Hell, if you're a tenured prof, you can still be fired.

Post: #25

(12-29-2015 02:44 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  If one actually works in Academia - unless you're a tenured professor, good luck with that attitude, you'll be fired. Hell, if you're a tenured prof, you can still be fired.

You are an academic? Which field? Have you personally seen someone get fired or disciplined (e.g. tenure denied) for the kind of "sexist" comments Hank mentions?