Post: #5026

(12-17-2015 12:21 AM)XII Wrote:  I went through another round on OKC. Messaged 20 girls, got 8 responses, 5 numbers, 5 dates.

I found out a way to greatly reduce girls' flaking from OKC.

I always propose getting a drink after 1-3 messages back and forth. A girl would say yes to going out for drinks, then I'd text her the next day and she wouldn't respond. I had a very high flake rate, around 50%.

For this round on OKC I started texting girls RIGHT when I got their numbers, within the hour, and the flaking drastically decreased. None of the five numbers I got didn't lead to dates.

So here's what I do now:
Me: Blah blah blah
Her: Blah blah
Me: Blah blah blah. Drinks?
Her: Sure.
Me: Cool. Number?
Her: ###-###-####

I text and set up immediately, within an hour of getting her number:
Me: Hey it's *****. How about ****** at 9?
Her: Ok

Then she would show up.

Something to try out for guys who are getting mercilessly flaked on.

Yeah I've noticed a similar thing...there's some game wisdom about not being too quick/eager, but girls online have so many options, you gotta strike when you're at the forefront of their mind. Same thing holds for Tinder - message as soon as you get that match and reply as soon as she replies to one of yours. Otherwise you get drowned out in the sea of nonsense.

Post: #5027

(12-20-2015 04:34 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  Hey Remington, I gave that Thai a call after a coupla weeks and got her on the line for a great chat for a solid hour. Sounds like a weird scene she's got over there. I'm sure SA has something to do with it, but my intrigue is re-piqued. Um, "stays" with the soon to be ex-husband, but at 40+ miles away, I'll have to strike some sort of in-between. Sounds a like a fun one, I must say.

I'm going to assume the ex husband is still stuffing the Thai girl. If I was you, I'd go radio silent with her until she messages you first. Don't waste any time or effort pursuing this woman. Sounds like a lost cause if she is still living with her ex and lives that far away.

Now, if you are going to try and pursue anyways, go for the hail Mary and invite her over to your place for dinner and tell her to bring a movie. If she says yes, proceed as usual. If no, delete her number.

Sounds like you need to develop a harem in order for you to not invest so much time in one woman. The most important thing that Game has taught me is the abundance mentality. It made everything so much easier when it came to things like approaching, dating, getting phone numbers, LMR, etc. Knowing that I had 3-5 girls I could call for sex made all the difference.

Post: #5028

I've since backed away, while conjuring up new pursuits, as always. Based on that last call, I was guessing that she'd had her fill of the troglodyte's withered junk and was sniffin' for youngblood, but whatever.

Even with how recently in the deal I've finally taken on the abundance mentality as a core tenet, I still find those instances disheartening when I fall back into those bad habits. The RVF sets me straight.

Post: #5029

Just got back on OKC after a hiatus to take a brief tour to see if there was any lonely sluts with no holiday plans. It's pretty dead now as expected but still got a number of a foreign chick with a few more in the pipeline.

January should be fun though. That's when all the post-holiday break up talent shows up. Like fuckin clockwork.

Post: #5030

^is the deadness seasonal?

My okc, pof and tinder accounts have all dried up. No looks or matches.

I've never known anything like it.

Post: #5031

(12-24-2015 03:57 AM)N°6 Wrote:  ^is the deadness seasonal?

My okc, pof and tinder accounts have all dried up. No looks or matches.

I've never known anything like it.

Uh... yeah. It's the holidays. Chicks (including fuckbuddies) are hanging with their main boyfriends, chilling at family events, and on road trips to see friends/family. Until New Years Eve, the dating scene pretty much comes to a standstill.

However for a variety of factors, relationships has a tendency to go ka-boom after the holidays are over. A players Christmas doesn't come in December but in January!

You see, a lot of people don't want to be alone during this time of year and many will stick out a shitty relationship for a few more weeks to get past all the holiday/family gathering parties including News Years shit. No woman wants to be alone during this time of year and will settle for about damn near anybody to fill up the "I got somebody" slot. These are called holiday romances. Start in late fall and blow up in January.

Also, there are a lot of chicks who locked down a main BF back in August/September. 4-5 months down the line in January, the relationship has lost its novelty (as is par for the course around the 3-5 month time period) and any cracks in the relationship get hyper-exposed during the holidays since people are spending extra amounts of time with each other.

But come Jan 1st and the few following weeks that come thereafter, almost like clockwork every year, relationships suddenly start blowing up at such a fast clip that you can't help but hear the cannons of the 1812 Overture ringing in the air.




(skip to 12:30 and wait 90 seconds)

Post: #5032

January is a goldmine for online dating. Days are short and the weather is at it's peak cold so you end up with a lot of users looking for dates after the holidays. The only downside is if you live in a snow prown area which can fuck up your dates if you live in an area where people drive. The weather works for you but can also work against you.

Post: #5033

Shit, the January bonanza you describe is too tempting to not return and make a profile again. I will cheat and do it while I do some daygame during weekends.

Post: #5034

Most women who will be on OKC in January will be the ones who were unable to lock a guy down during the holidays. Their self esteem will be low which will cause them to create their profiles in the first place. They will need some validation and attention from some thirsty men so they can affirm their previous delusions that men desire them for their personalities.

This time of the year, a woman is looking for an LTR. Do what it takes to get the bang but don't make yourself available for a relationship. The opportunity to bang a lot of lonely girls is at your fingertips. Might be a good idea to capitalize on the situation.

Post: #5035

Yeah all my 4 plates have disappeared for the holiday season. It's not the time to be jolly with new girls in mind either. I texted season's greetings to some girls I've banged, no response -> no problem deleted in the face. I was thinking of sending them a text message, "happy christmas to my adorable one night stand ". That will at least crack them up.

OKCupid is pretty much dead, have some movement on Tinder and Happn but also largely dead or curious girls lining up guys for post holiday season.

Spend your free time wisely. I have worked on arranging my iphone folders to quickly send the best pics of me and in cool locations and bought some new clothes.

Prepare your material boys and girls. January is going to be wild.

Post: #5036

Tinder has been booming for me, but the closer I get to setting something up, the slower the responses come. I've moved away from okc as the girls are very low quality and have huge egos.

Like VC I thought about texting some girls form my list (I texted two), but I thought about it. If I'm not getting text from these girls, sending them anything is a waste of time.

Post: #5037

(12-25-2015 03:33 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  OKCupid is pretty much dead, have some movement on Tinder and Happn but also largely dead or curious girls lining up guys for post holiday season.

Spend your free time wisely. I have worked on arranging my iphone folders to quickly send the best pics of me and in cool locations and bought some new clothes.

Prepare your material boys and girls. January is going to be wild.

I've been noticing over the past few months that as opposed to the summertime, where I'd get lots of replies to my openers, at this point essentially every opener I send (which isn't many atm) results in the girl visiting my profile but no reply. The replies I do get have been mostly from obvious attention whores/timewasters ("I'd like to chat on here a bit before meeting" etc.)

My pictures aren't horrible, but I have trouble finding/taking ones that I like to put up. I got a decent amount of dates over the summer with my current set, though.

Or maybe they're still in the "relationship phase" mentioned above and are just checking guys out who hit them up, but aren't into making plans right now. I hope you're right about January, but the warm weather around here isn't going to last and it's likely to be freeze your tits off cold before long. I can't say I'm optimistic. I plan on cancelling the paid features I have and using it for the "boost" action outlined above, as the filters and seeing who "likes" you features do seem to be pretty useless.

I tried out POF for a while with my same set of photos and it's not much use. I've racked up about 40 "meet mes" in the span of three weeks, but it's 80% "suburban bogans" as one of our Australian users describes that app's clientele. About 80% of the "meet mes" I got were from overweight "hopeless romantic" women in their 30s and 40s looking for their prince. I sent a few messages to the ones who seemed somewhat attractive, but the cunt attitude I received from fucking 32 year old hairdressers and Dunkin' Donuts employees was just unreal. It really seems like the bottom of the barrel on that thing and the talent makes OKC look stellar by comparison. I get about one or two "meet mes" a day now so I'll keep it installed just in case anything should turn up.

I've never tried Tinder, so maybe the next thing to give a shot is do my best to get some really good photos taken and slap them up there for January.

Post: #5038

CO-signing. Okcupid is DEAD RIGHT NOW!! All players should resume playing after the first week of January. All that's on here on my end is definitely time wasters who just want a chat buddy.

-CD

Post: #5039

Yeah, Jan-Feb is great for online. Chicks want a fresh start for the year and don't forget no chick wants to be alone on Valentine's Day.

Post: #5040

Girl on OKC who seems to like me after a bit of back and forth:

surely you can come up with a funnier comment
haha I didnt intend to say anything funny you look cute thats all
Yesterday - 7:03pm
Thanks
Would you be going to the city much next week
Today - 3:42am
Idk maybe. Why?
Today - 8:39am
Just thinking we should go out for drinks sometime, ideally a time when it isnt so crowded
I'd love too, but I dont meet with people right away. Just a precaution.

What do I respond? Should I just write her off, convince her to come, agree and amplify, or neg?

Edit: She originally came from Russia and seems newish here and is "conservative" and "not for hookups", but she does have the party vibe in her pictures and she's up at 3-4am partying. 23 yo

Post: #5041

^Have you gotten her number or is this on the app?

"I'd love too, but I don't meet with people right away. Just a precaution." she could be a time waster. Farm more numbers.

Good chance she is bored and looking for a text buddy. When you do online game and haven't met the girl, its harder than when you meet a girl out on the street. You need something that sparks her interest in you.

Post: #5042

It's on the site. I don't actually carry my phone with me because I much prefer being disconnected and undisturbed by technology. So mainly I do these sorts of things on the computer. Is there much of an advantage to texting vs talking on the app?

Post: #5043

^I was thinking if you had the number, she'd be interested in phone conversation possibly. She mentioned not meeting right away as a precaution. Gio wrote a post about using logic with smart girls.

The only difference is that you two haven't met in person. I'd try to get her off the asap, as that's where the competition is. My recent format for online game has been (funny, witty opener), follow up with a tease, ask something about her, and get the number.

here's a possible response: "right, after all you could be an escaped convict named Bob from wisconsin"

very likely to get some kind of response (maybe an lol or something suggesting that you might be one as well). After that you could suggest taking the conversation over to text.

Post: #5044

That's a good response suggestion above as a play on the "precaution" nonsense she put forward. You should try it. However I think nothing with her will help that much as she is a boring serious girl, not necessarily intelligent, just plain boring and passionless. There is such a thing as crap girl game (it's everywhere, just guys usually blame themselves for it even though often time they weren't at fault) and this is an instance of it.

Girls like her are dime a dozen - I sometimes get their numbers and text with them for a little and you can tell they are going to be absolutely shit dates. I just delete their numbers, I had one an hour ago I deleted I asked her if she's up to anything fun tonight, she said "guess", I guessed that she's in some pyjama party with all her friends talking about cute boys. Rubbed on her the wrong way, because she has no sense of humour, so just deleted her number no problem. Being playful is a great filter. Got another girl from Tinder playful, funny and hinting that she's going to fuck my brains out when we meet. What a contrast.

Post: #5045

(12-26-2015 09:29 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  There is such a thing as crap girl game (it's everywhere, just guys usually blame themselves for it even though often time they weren't at fault) and this is an instance of it.

Girls like her are dime a dozen - I sometimes get their numbers and text with them for a little and you can tell they are going to be absolutely shit dates.

Bingo. The whole girl side of society is built on not having to do much work to get male attention, so a lot of gals aren't well-drilled in how to actually communicate with guys. I've had a few leads that were just shitty at dating, couldn't communicate gracefully or be verbally playful the way I roll, so into the delete pile they went. Guys are always blaming themselves, and girls encourage that, but a lot of times it just ain't true.

Post: #5046

+1 Great point Vince,using humor to filter out sour grape bishes

Most of them expect their asses to be kissed, so a witty neg either gets them to loosen up or disqualify themselves as poor sports

Either way, there's no time for disagreeable chicks

Post: #5047

(12-26-2015 07:13 PM)Centurion Wrote:  Girl on OKC who seems to like me after a bit of back and forth:

surely you can come up with a funnier comment
haha I didnt intend to say anything funny you look cute thats all
Yesterday - 7:03pm
Thanks
Would you be going to the city much next week
Today - 3:42am
Idk maybe. Why?
Today - 8:39am
Just thinking we should go out for drinks sometime, ideally a time when it isnt so crowded
I'd love too, but I dont meet with people right away. Just a precaution.

What do I respond? Should I just write her off, convince her to come, agree and amplify, or neg?

Edit: She originally came from Russia and seems newish here and is "conservative" and "not for hookups", but she does have the party vibe in her pictures and she's up at 3-4am partying. 23 yo

Just to let you know, I've been at this a little while and I can't recall ever going on a date with a girl who gave me the "I don't meet people right away" line. I understand you say that she's foreign and more conservative type though.

Since it's slow right now though any contact at all is probably good, so I wouldn't write her off completely. Try to get her phone number by saying something like "yeah, I hear ya. why don't we keep in touch by text because this interface sucks" or something like that. Then spend a little time (but not too much) off site trying to build comfort.

After you've built a little, try pitching again after a week or so. If she gives you the ambivalent line again then delete.

It'll probably only cost you an hour or two of time total.

Post: #5048

(12-27-2015 10:53 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  Just to let you know, I've been at this a little while and I can't recall ever going on a date with a girl who gave me the "I don't meet people right away" line.

Ditto, never once met up with any girl who gave me some "take it slow" game. Wtf is she doing on a dating site if she's not going to meet people in person? Either just seeking attention, or too spooked to actually take the risk and thus probably boring as hell.

Too many gals who will meet you practically the same night to mess around with girls who are either really conservative or playing you.

Post: #5049

Adding to the girl that "doesn't meet people right away", I once tried Skout and found a couple girls. But one made me realise it's not worth the effort: we were chatting a bit then I pitched for a coffee meet

Post: #5050

Adding to the girl that "doesn't meet people right away", I once tried Skout and found a couple girls. But one made me realise it's not worth the effort: we were chatting a bit then I pitched for a coffee meet. She responded with the stupidest thing I've ever heard online: "I only have virtual friends."
I hope it was a smartass rejection.