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kbell · 2015-10-18 13:37:00 · #3501




Quality actors. Credit to Deathtofatties.
malakaix · 2015-10-18 16:10:00 · #3502
This woman needs to go. Seriously.. If Turkey joins the EU, that will be the final nail in the coffin. Fortunately as far as i know, EU policy dictates that it must be a unanimous decision from all 28 member states, which will never happen.

Merkel, in bind on migrants, ready to back faster Turkish EU bid

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/18...8020151018

Quote:Speaking in Istanbul at a joint news conference with Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, Merkel said Germany could help accelerate the path to visa-free travel to the EU for Turks and push forward Ankara's protracted EU membership talks.
Handsome Creepy Eel · 2015-10-18 16:21:00 · #3503
Quote:Fortunately as far as i know, EU policy dictates that it must be a unanimous decision from all 28 member states, which will never happen.

Don't worry, like with the Lisbon Treaty, the member states will be given a chance to vote again and again until they finally select the "correct" option.
Veloce · 2015-10-18 16:55:00 · #3504
(10-18-2015 01:37 PM)kbell Wrote:  



Quality actors. Credit to Deathtofatties.

I didn't make it past :01 before pressing the "Like" button.
cowboy · 2015-10-18 22:18:00 · #3505
I love watching the dumbass at 0:50 getting overpowered by the migrants as he tries to "welcome" the refugees. I don't feel sorry for a man like that. It will be fun to watch him witness the destruction of his country and culture.
N°6 · 2015-10-18 23:52:00 · #3506
I found watching mainstream TV news to be more depressing than this thread as at least this thread shows me that some men in the world haven't lost their minds and balls.
Biologist · 2015-10-18 23:56:00 · #3507
(10-17-2015 07:49 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eab_1445033279

An absolutely WTF video from Germany: Must watch

This is it. The moment an actual government official makes it clear. This is a total translformation. The end of rational law and rule by fiat and a population replacement. Germans told to leave Germany if they do not like the immigration policies of the Merkel government.

Do these politicians and government officials not know that German citizens are the people who are keeping their country going? Not only this, do they not realise that it is the German citizens who have voted them in and are paying for their salary and other perks?

Imagine if a huge amount of Germans got upset at this speech and decided to leave Germany. Imagine a large amount of businesses were moved to other countries and many engineers, technicians, scientists etc left.

Are they so stupid to think that these "refugees" could replace these people, given that many of these refugees never attended school and are illiterate (let alone knowing the German language to any extent)?
Biologist · 2015-10-18 23:58:00 · #3508
(10-18-2015 11:56 PM)Biologist Wrote:  
(10-17-2015 07:49 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eab_1445033279

An absolutely WTF video from Germany: Must watch

This is it. The moment an actual government official makes it clear. This is a total translformation. The end of rational law and rule by fiat and a population replacement. Germans told to leave Germany if they do not like the immigration policies of the Merkel government.

Do these politicians and government officials not know that German citizens are the people who are keeping their country going? Not only this, do they not realise that it is the German citizens who have voted them in and are paying for their salary and other perks?

Imagine if a huge amount of Germans got upset at this speech and decided to leave Germany. Imagine a large amount of businesses were moved to other countries and many productive and smart people (engineers, technicians, scientists etc) left.

Are they so stupid to think that these "refugees" could replace these people, given that many of these refugees never attended school and are illiterate (let alone knowing the German language to any extent)?
Zelcorpion · 2015-10-19 00:45:00 · #3509
(10-18-2015 11:56 PM)Biologist Wrote:  Imagine if a huge amount of Germans got upset at this speech and decided to leave Germany. Imagine a large amount of businesses were moved to other countries and many engineers, technicians, scientists etc left.

Are they so stupid to think that these "refugees" could replace these people, given that many of these refugees never attended school and are illiterate (let alone knowing the German language to any extent)?

That is the point. Any successful immigration has to be done with a population that is at least similar or equal in terms of intellectual and mental quality. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to upkeep the civilization they are supposed to "take over".

A good measure of that is a look at the home country of the migrants, but also an assessment of the current success of their newcomers and their general education level in the first and best second generation. There we can see in practically all European countries, that Asian, Eastern Europeans, Indians thrive, while most Middle Easterners and Africans still occupy the bottom rungs of society.

Heartiste had a few memes out which were quite good:

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Look at who is comprising key industries, who is getting high-value education, who is comprising the police force and the key workers that keep the infrastructure running, who is leading the corporations? In the US the overwhelming overpowering majority of those people are Whites, Asians and Jewish (also White). That's it - if you pulled those people out of the US even over a period of a generation, then the US would deteriorate swiftly.

This is even more the case with Europe and highly sophisticated economies like Sweden or Germany. Heck - even the mentalities within Europe are vastly different and I have personally seen Italian companies preferably hiring Germans before most Italians whenever they had access to them (been at an Italian architecture firm and the Italian bosses have said that they get much more work done if they hire young German architects instead of Italians).

Yes - mentalities can change, but it can take generations and in the case of the Muslims you would have to detach them from their religion - not take the Quran literally, drop Jihad, drop sharia - then you might have a chance in several generations to reach an approximate level of productivity of Europeans.

Instead - it's rather the opposite:





The funny part is that even if Swedes become a minority in their own country in some 20 years, then the massive majority of essential infrastructure, administration and corporate high-end jobs will be done by Swedes. Essentially you would have a country that is administrated by a productive minority that upkeeps an unproductive and even destructive majority.
Zelcorpion · 2015-10-19 01:41:00 · #3510
On that note I would add a short speech by a Muslim cleric on the sheer lack of productivity, of excellence in the Islamic world:





He clearly tells that the Arabs don't build a single engine, not a single plane, in one country government workers "work" just 27 minutes a day. Heck - they don't even excel at killing since technology and adherence to a strict discipline makes Western countries and Israel much better killers.

He calls for renewed excellence and a better work-ethic.

However the truth of the matter is that it's similar to Soviet Russia telling it's people to work harder in order to reach Western levels of productivity. When you are stuck in a negative anti-productivity system, then all those admonitions will not help.

The cleric won't be able to change things, since Islam itself is to be blamed.

Here are two Muslim intellectuals who clearly state what needs to be done:

Hamed Abdel-Samad - Egyptian born, highly intelligent, was an extremist from age 14 on, but turned around and is now an activist in Germany with books claiming that Islam is fascist and needs to be adapted drastically:





Then you have the Harvard professor Ayaan Hirsi Ali who also clearly states that Islam has to change via distance from the literal interpretation of the Quran, of having to ditch the Jihad and sharia. The curse of Islam is that it freezes all innovation and unfortunately for them just grabbing slaves or hiring infidels for some tasks doesn't produce great results anymore.





If those Muslim intellectuals who certainly don't hate their own people or their countries - if they criticize their own religion and mentality of their people so much, then why do the politicians in the West claim, that it will all work out fine and only racists and xenophobes are to be blamed? Also what makes them think that importing them in millions to the West will suddenly create an enlightened people, when in reality few will turn out to be that way?
Eskhander · 2015-10-19 02:26:00 · #3511
Good finds Zel.
Handsome Creepy Eel · 2015-10-19 06:47:00 · #3512
Shit.

Are you telling me we won't be unlocking secrets of the universe anytime soon?
Geomann180 · 2015-10-19 09:16:00 · #3513
(10-19-2015 06:47 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Shit.

Are you telling me we won't be unlocking secrets of the universe anytime soon?

No worries - I hear the Muslims are set to release "Bang Camel(s)" in Q1 of 2016, first in Germany, and then the rest of Europe*.

G

*Not including Hungary.
Parzival · 2015-10-19 10:03:00 · #3514
There are new reports of sexual harassment and rape of women. Also some guy get beat up because he is a christian. Well today I was thinking even with all the bad news I have some faith in Germany. We never had such big issues like other european countries, even our ghettos are less terrible compare to Sweden, France or the UK.

Now there is chaos, the government passed a new refugee law, there are plenty of critical voices out there. I hope, more I cant have in that situation, that when the organisation starts to run, it will work. That the wrong people get finally kicked out of Germany. In the past with only a few refugees, many states had been to soft. Not send them back when they had no legal reason to stay.
More countries are now seen as save countries, so less legal asylum status for them.

Also in the past it was a political reason. The police catch those stupid immigrants but the courts let them go. The politics want to let them go. Because of the cultural bonus pass.
We have to be strict with our principles. I don't want to open the gates for the right wing people and their lies. But I want to get those stupid immigrants to be punished and even kicked out when they don't know how to behave. They come for a culture that only respect strength.

We have to stand strong against those invaders. Thats the only hope left for a free society. Still I don't worry that German will become a muslim country. Those people are retarded. They make problems on the streets, commit crimes. When the justice system work effective, the laws are out there - they just have to be used - Germany can dry those maniacs out fast.

I hope the current situation will be a moment of truth where we face reality, that we as Europeans have to stand for our rights, for our believe system. And abdomen the illusion of the multicultural ideology that we can all live in peace without rules because those invaders are an enrichment.

Either they accept the strict laws and rules of western society or they should get deported. As I said, I have faith in Germany. We came back after two world wars, we have less cultural problems then other countries. Now we need to make a stand to send the wrong people back home.
Many Germans don't realise the reality, 70 years of peace and economical grow made them soft. Sometimes you have to make a stand to save what you have. This is now the time. The last stand. A battle where we either lose or win when we don't stand for our believe system. And yes, this includes that not everybody is welcome. This includes a selection. This includes hard decisions. But when we don't do it, we lose it all. Then we are in a world of pain, then even the intention to help is not any more there.

We live in a world with walls and some men have to guard those walls. When we lose it, we lose everything.
Zelcorpion · 2015-10-19 10:36:00 · #3515
Europe starts voting right - even those countries that have still real borders like Switzerland, where undocumented migrant hordes would be met with infantry divisions:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/...ant-surge/

Quote:ZURICH, Switzerland – Swiss voters swung to the right in parliamentary elections on Sunday dominated by concerns over Europe’s migrant crisis, with the country’s largest party, the populist Swiss People’s Party, on track to win a record number of seats.

The Swiss People’s Party (SVP) was seen raking in 29.5 per cent of the vote, compared to the 26.6 per cent won in 2011 and beating its previous record score of 28.9 in 2007, the national broadcaster RTS projected.

So their "xenophobic" party which is against the EU and against unfettered migration is already the strongest one.

Quote:The Socialists, the country’s second-largest party, were meanwhile seen shedding two of their current 46 seats, while the Greens and Green Liberal Party were seen losing five and six seats respectively.

The shift to the right comes as surging numbers of migrants and refugees moving through Europe have heightened the focus on the issue in Switzerland, even though the wealthy Alpine nation is yet to be significantly affected by the crisis.

It's equally important that the neo-communists like the Greens have lost significantly as well. Well done- my Swiss comrades and my former home for 2 years.

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Also in different news - someone collected the Email read on the Czech TV written by a Czech female doctor who works in a German hospital:

http://www.epochtimes.de/politik/welt/ae...75945.html

Quote:"Yesterday, at the hospital we had a meeting about how the situation here and at the other Munich hospitals is unsustainable. Clinics cannot handle emergencies, so they are starting to send everything to the hospitals.

Many Muslims are refusing treatment by female staff and, we, women, are refusing to go among those animals, especially from Africa. Relations between the staff and migrants are going from bad to worse. Since last weekend, migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units.

Many migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we, in Europe, do not know how to treat them. If they receive a prescription in the pharmacy, they learn they have to pay cash. This leads to unbelievable outbursts, especially when it is about drugs for the children. They abandon the children with pharmacy staff with the words: "So, cure them here yourselves!" So the police are not just guarding the clinics and hospitals, but also large pharmacies.

Truly we said openly: Where are all those who had welcomed in front of TV cameras, with signs at train stations?! Yes, for now, the border has been closed, but a million of them are already here and we will definitely not be able to get rid of them.

Until now, the number of unemployed in Germany was 2.2 million. Now it will be at least 3.5 million. Most of these people are completely unemployable. A bare minimum of them have any education. What is more, their women usually do not work at all. I estimate that one in ten is pregnant. Hundreds of thousands of them have brought along infants and little kids under six, many emaciated and neglected. If this continues and German re-opens its borders, I'm going home to the Czech Republic. Nobody can keep me here in this situation, not even double the salary than at home. I went to Germany, not to Africa or the Middle East.

Even the professor who heads our department told us how sad it makes him to see the cleaning woman, who for 800 Euros cleans every day for years, and then meets young men in the hallways who just wait with their hand outstretched, want everything for free, and when they don't get it they throw a fit.

I really don't need this! But I'm afraid that if I return, that at some point it will be the same in the Czech Republic. If the Germans, with their nature cannot handle this, there in Czechia it would be total chaos. Nobody who has not come in contact with them has any idea what kind of animals they are, especially the ones from Africa, and how Muslims act superior to our staff, regarding their religious accommodation.

For now, the local hospital staff has not come down with the diseases they brought here, but, with so many hundreds of patients every day - this is just a question of time. (My comment: only tuberculosis is problematic, the viral scare is less dangerous than actual violence and chaos. Though syphilis and other rare sexually transmitted diseases my become a problem for us. I doubt that they treat Syphilis properly and a girl who fucks a migrant might very quickly pass it on to you.)

In a hospital near the Rhine, migrants attacked the staff with knives after they had handed over an 8-month-old on the brink of death, which they had dragged across half of Europe for three months. The child died in two days, despite having received top care at one of the best pediatric clinics in Germany. The physician had to undergo surgery and two nurses are laid up in the ICU. Nobody has been punished.

The local press is forbidden to write about it, so we know about it through email. What would have happened to a German if he had stabbed a doctor and nurses with a knife? Or if he had flung his own syphilis-infected urine into a nurse's face and so threatened her with infection? At a minimum he'd go straight to jail and later to court. With these people - so far, nothing has happened.


And so I ask, where are all those greeters and receivers from the train stations? Sitting pretty at home, enjoying their non-profits and looking forward to more trains and their next batch of cash from acting like greeters at the stations. If it were up to me I would round up all these greeters and bring them here first to our hospital's emergency ward, as attendants. Then, into one building with the migrants so they can look after them there themselves, without armed police, without police dogs who today are in every hospital here in Bavaria, and without medical help.






Feeling enriched already?
glugger · 2015-10-19 11:17:00 · #3516
Have they made it illegal to report on the refugees now? That's what that email above seemed to suggest.
Zelcorpion · 2015-10-19 11:30:00 · #3517
(10-19-2015 11:17 AM)glugger Wrote:  Have they made it illegal to report on the refugees now? That's what that email above seemed to suggest.

It's not illegal to attempt a civil lawsuit, but if the police does not charge migrant assailants for almost killing a doctor, then Germans certainly won't push the matter.

If this were the US, then the government would have to pay all of them 7-digit amounts in order to keep it off the courts. But the German law is not overly profitable for litigation, so if there is no criminal charge by the police, then you can keep it hidden - especially when everyone from the cops to the hospital management tells you to shut up about it. A nurse would get some 10.000EUR in a public lawsuit, but the hospital would probably fire her and she wouldn't be hired again. Wrongthink is dangerous for your livelihood. Maybe the staff will get a year or more paid leave - there are many ways to keep it silent.

The media certainly got an all around command to lie as much as possible:





In German, but it's a former journalist who was told by her colleagues and bosses to embellish the migrant issue, make up even positive stories and be totally silent about anything negative.
Parzival · 2015-10-19 12:43:00 · #3518
The deal with Erdogan is a joke. Merkel said, Germany can not build a fence and protect the borders, criticise Orban for doing this and now pay Erdogan for protect the borders for Europe.
When the turks get now a visa free travel I'm sure we get more village turks. We have enough for those ones.
kaotic · 2015-10-19 13:04:00 · #3519
Nice post Zel, this is a fucking mess.

That Cleric says it like it is. They need to fix their own countries and knock off that entitlement bullshit.
achromaticmike · 2015-10-19 15:50:00 · #3520
I'm embarrassed to admit this but I was beat up by a group of "refugees" a few weeks ago after getting pissy drunk at Oktoberfest and leaving the "black boxx" strip club in the Munich hauptbahnhof area around 4am that same night. They then proceeded to steal my Rolex Seadweller after I was unconscious. Luckily I wasn't stabbed or something and I just lost an expensive uninsured watch...

I've been to Munich a number of times and the number of middle-eastern beggars that are in that area is probably 5-10x higher than it was a couple years ago.
Zelcorpion · 2015-10-19 15:54:00 · #3521
I listened to the talk of Hamed Abdel Samad while doing some light reading (yes - I do multi-tasking quite often), because he seemed the most rational one.




German with subtitles, but worth it to understand the topic.

Concise points:

+ Islamism with increased fundamentalism arose after the collapse of the Ottoman empire and the rise of the those fascist strongmen in the 1920s - often many Muslims and unaware Christians, SJWs speak of only this Wahhabism etc. as a more "extreme" living of Islam
+ Samad in contrast thinks that the Muslim faith due to a strong bonding with politics and power was always Islamist or fascist - usually whenever bonded with power. Something similar happened to Chrstianity at times when the pope had standing armies and the church wielded great worldly power, tortured scientists etc.
+ However he clearly admits that Christianity in contrast to Islam is not an inherently violent religion. The strict living according to the Quran would result in Jihad, Sharia and a very violent and backwards system.
+ He also has a different take on the so-called "advances" of the Muslim world and the Golden Time of Islam. According to him it is clear that the caliphate did not reach the height of the empire in Medina where it originated. It usually piggy-backed from other cultures - Baghad was the center for a long time and there the influence of the Persians on science and culture was clear. In fact the author claims that real Golden Muslim Ages were always achieved during secular Islamic times. He says that around 900-1200 when the caliphate had a higher level of civilization than Europe, then the Muslim leaders had a very liberal and secular lifestyle. You can read that alcohol was everywhere, Rumi and the Sufis write many poems of drinking wine and there were even great poetry festivals where men could make fun of the prophet. People back then did not take things as seriously.
+ Only later started a stronger living according to the Quran and unfortunately the sharia. It essentially stifled further development and was way more ruthless and violent against unbelievers as well as against science.
+ It's interesting that the clerics opposed the biggest invention of European enlightenment - the printing press. The first time the printing press was established in the Muslim world was some 300 years after it's invention when Napoleon came to Egypt. And even then the clerics opposed it.
+ According to Mr Samad it's utterly preposterous to give in to ANYTHING THAT MUSLIMS DEMAND IN EUROPE. There shouldn't be any exceptions with regard to food, alcohol, feelings, exceptions from swimming lessons for girls, now in Finland Muslim children are in some regions except from music lessons! He clearly states that there is no sharia light. If you give in one step, then more will follow. Also all those Islamophobic activist groups, plenty of Muslim NGOs as well as countries like Turkey under Erdogan are not the friends of the German people.
This is by the way happening around the world - public universities in the US are building foot washing stations: https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/201...r-muslims/
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(Those kind of contraptions are highly impractical and frankly un-secular. Also they are done on behest of the Muslim Brotherhood which is highly backwards.)
+ We should just differentiate between fearing and judging all MUSLIMS - "Muslim-phobia" shouldn't exist since there are plenty of enlightened tolerant secular Muslims. But what should exist is Islam-criticism - we should understand the ruthless sharia nature of Islam and would be wise to not ignore it.

The talk happened last year before the big flood started. Currently he observes an ever greater conservatism in the Muslim world - Indonesia within the last 10 years has become more sharia-conform with public floggings, restrictions etc.

Unfortunately living according to a strict reading of Quran means living a medieval primitive life. Thus we should not fear to criticize Islam, but of course shouldn't blame all Muslims equally.

That said - the current conservatism which essentially equals greater sharia conformity makes the current newcomers to Europe not welcome. Even worse is the fact that the usually unemployed youth in Europe of second and third generations see sharia conformity as their main ego-balm. Since the governments in the EU not only underestimate the problem, but also finance and contribute to it, then the situation will become worse. In fact their entire focus is based not on an emancipation and secularization of the Islam in Europe - no - it's focused on NOT BEING CALLED racist or islamophobic and bending ever more the European system to any demand.

We should be able to criticize Islam freely and fight any meddling into the secular state. So the motto should be - Secular Muslims potentially welcome, sharia go home. And by secular I mean really utterly secular - there is no sharia light - there are only sharia stepping stones.

Of course the current stock of migrants are hardly secular or cannot even be assessed properly. Even if all Africans and Middle Easterners coming over were 100% secular, then the current economies would not be able to absorb them in that speed and education level properly. But of course the reality is that most of them are certainly not secular, educated and enlightened, but something else. Also their future existence in the bottom rungs of the European society being unemployed and essentially European poor will make them easy pray to take greater parts of Quran lore to heart, since that instantly lets them feel more superior.

This will end badly - but just as I predicted Mr. Samad doesn't fear an European caliphate, but he rather expects rising chaos, destruction, terror cells etc. He did not mention no-go zones, burning cars, crime and rape booms, but of course that is what's more likely in store for Europe.
Dusty · 2015-10-19 15:56:00 · #3522
(10-19-2015 03:50 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  I'm embarrassed to admit this but I was beat up by a group of "refugees" a few weeks ago after getting pissy drunk at Oktoberfest and leaving the "black boxx" strip club in the Munich hauptbahnhof area around 4am that same night. They then proceeded to steal my Rolex Seadweller after I was unconscious. Luckily I wasn't stabbed or something and I just lost an expensive uninsured watch...

Consider yourself enriched.
HighSpeed_LowDrag · 2015-10-19 17:00:00 · #3523
Article in Business Insider on the rise of the alt-right in Europe:

Link

Quote:European nationalist parties are enjoying a worrying surge of support on the back of the continent's migrant crisis, a development that has been largely overlooked.

The rise of far-right parties in Europe — like the Front National in France or Golden Dawn in Greece — has been a major story over the last few years, but recent developments have received much less attention even though their gains have been more dramatic.

In several elections in the last month, radical parties to the right of Europe's mainstream conservatives are gaining strength. Opinion polls in other countries paint the same picture.

Few people pay attention to Swiss elections, and most people can't name the country's political leaders. Since most major decisions go to referendums, either at the national or local level, there's not quite as much for legislators to do. But this weekend the populist and right-wing Swiss People's Party won 29.4% of the vote, the largest proportion ever, after a campaign that focused on migration. According to the BBC it is being referred to as a "rechtsrutsch," or a slide to the right.

The Swiss People's Party is perhaps known best internationally for its use of pretty openly racist posters.

In Austria, there's been quiet momentum behind the far-right Freedom Party too. In late September, the party nudged the mainstream centre-left party out of second place in a state elections in Upper Austria. In 2010, one of the party's slogans was "mehr mut für unser Wiener blut," or "more courage for our Viennese blood."

In Vienna earlier this month, the social democrats won 39% of the vote, holding onto control, but the Freedom Party were hot on their heels, pulling in 31%. The centre-left party has been in power in the city since the end of the Second World War, and there was genuine concern that they could lose in one of Europe's cosmopolitan capital cities.

What's more, all polls since May have shown the far-right party in the lead or drawn for the lead, some recent ones by as much as 10 percentage points.

Like Swiss federal elections, it's reasonable to assume many people aren't paying attention to Austrian regional elections. But the strength of the far right doesn't end there.

In the Netherlands, Geert Wilders' PVV is 18 points ahead of the governing VVD in the latest polls. Marine Le Pen's National Front leads in most polls in France. In Italy, Matteo Salvini's Northern League is riding high.

In regional elections this year, it gained its best ever results in the five contested areas. In Veneto, the new Northern League governor immediately ordered the dissolution of migrant reception centres.

The parties have a less coherent view on economics, but share a eurosceptic and anti-migrant platform.

Salvini, Le Pen, Wilders and Christian-Stache (the leader of the Austrian Freedom Party) wrote an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal. Here's a snippet:

The situation is completely out of control. Too many fortune seekers, too much illiteracy. Some of the migrants are refugees, but the majority come for economic reasons. Our European economies and social-protection systems cannot cope with this. The media prefer to focus on families and children, but their images cannot conceal that the asylum seekers flocking to Europe are predominantly young men. Many are unskilled ...

The European Union has slowly been eroding Europe’s nation-states by gradually dismantling their sovereignty. It has robbed our countries of the right to conduct our own national asylum policies

The parties appeal to feelings of insecurity and instability, as well as a perception that control is being wrestled away from the institutions they know and understand, co-opted by distant and sneering cosmopolitan bureaucrats. Their way of life has been put under pressure and the people in charge basically don't care.

Progressive Scandinavia isn't exempt from the changes either. The Swedish Democrats surged to 3rd place in elections in September 2014, from 6th in 2010. A handful of polls since August have put them in first place, and several more have put them in second, behind the centre-left governing party.

The Danish People's Party came second in elections in June 2015, beating Denmark's main traditional centre-right party.

Migrants walk to the Austrian border in Nickelsdorf from Hegyeshalom, Hungary, in this September 26, 2015 file photo. REUTERS/Leonhard Foeger/FilesThomson Reuters
File photo of migrants walking to the Austrian border in Nickelsdorf from Hegyeshalom

It's not universal. Spain and Germany don't seem to have right-wing populist parties with the same sort of levels of support, though Angela Merkel's popularity has clearly begun to ebb over recent months.

In the United Kingdom, UKIP support seems to have peaked and fallen back a little — though it's uncharitable to UKIP to compare it to some of the parties listed here, they're all playing for the same disaffected demographic.

But in much of Europe far-right parties are steadily and constantly gaining ground. They're pressing against the invisible boundary that separates fringe groups from mainstream politics, and seem to be testing whether the distinction exists at all anymore.

Most are deliberately isolated from the process of political coalition-building, but some already exert influence on a national level — after the 2010 election, the Dutch government relied on the tacit support of the PVV to survive.

Many will have to sustain momentum for several years if they want to perform as well as they currently are in polls. What they can guarantee is that they'll have ample conditions. Europe's monetary union no longer seems to be under existential threat, as it was from 2010 to 2012, but growth is modest at best. There is very little to provide a feelgood factor.

What's more, the colossal movement of migrants and refugees into Europe isn't likely to stop or even slow anytime soon. According to a leaked document, the United Nations High Commission for Refugees sees at least 700,000 people seeking asylum in Europe this year, and a similar or "even greater" number in 2016.

At the moment, it seems like only a matter of time until one of these parties truly transforms the political makeup of Europe by breaking through and leading a government — just don't be surprised when it happens.
DeeDee · 2015-10-19 17:08:00 · #3524




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Foolsgo1d · 2015-10-19 17:15:00 · #3525
I've noticed here in the UK they have very few reports of migrants now. its as if a magician came along and *poof*, "whats this migrant you speak of?"

The church also wants 50k Syrians to be moved here and not a paltry 20k. On the streets of Manchester city centre last week I saw close to 3 dozen beggars on the street, not including the Romanian scam artists who I believe should be deported.

We can find housing, medical care, food and money for people not from this country and yet we refuse to help those on our streets right now? Thousands on waitlists but no matter! Syrians take priority even though they hate our guts.
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