A group of 50+ afghans (all men) try to cross the Bulgarian border. A border patrol of 3 confronts them. They refuse to follow orders and resist. A shot in the air is fired, it ricochets and wounds one of them, who later dies.

The shit is hitting the fan.

(10-15-2015 09:53 PM)Libertas Wrote:  



The Liberal Revolution tells us like it is!

The video is not complete. He should have demanded at least a blowjob from her in the morning. Some of those migrants have complained about their hardened balls and that they need their balls drained.

Of course if she hadn't agreed to a BJ, then he should have raped her, because raping of infidel women is written in the Quran, so it's fine.

I guess in a short period of time the media just stop to report about this issue, like it happen in greece. Still no stop of the refugees. Well Germany did pass some laws but I'm sceptical if it will change anything.
What surprise me, all those people are well connected via social media. So they share all the fake dream wonderland pictures about Germany so fast. But that they wait for weeks in tents, the winter is there, no real shelter, no luxury apartment, no free money. This they don't share.

Because those people don't believe in reality, they are muslims. They are superior and when they believe they get everything in Germany for free, it will come reality for them. No picture of freezing people, no mass camps, no waiting for weeks can change their illusion. The more hard the crash will be when they are here. And the Germans give them not what they want. Then they will blame the German. No more free bus ride? No car? No women? Well they believe its their right, because for muslims its every time the fault of other people. Then the Germans, the west, the USA, Europe, Sinners, not believer and so on. But never ever one critical thought about their own behaviour, why their countries are like shit.

Looking forward to the clash of cultures. Well at least I can say: I said it before but nobody listen. The only positive thing about something negative like this. I see it coming, I saw it coming even a few years ago. Still in Japan and I don't want to go back to Germany, at least not for a long term future.

(10-16-2015 12:17 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  A group of 50+ afghans (all men) try to cross the Bulgarian border. A border patrol of 3 confronts them. They refuse to follow orders and resist. A shot in the air is fired, it ricochets and wounds one of them, who later dies.

The shit is hitting the fan.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oc...r-bulgaria

Quote:Afghan refugee shot dead by police while trying to enter Bulgaria

Look at the picture used:


The reality:

Quote:Public BNR radio cited the interior ministry’s chief of staff, Georgy Kostov, as saying that the group of 50 people – all from Afghanistan – was intercepted by a patrol of two border guards and a police officer after crossing into Bulgarian territory.

“They put up resistance during the arrest. One of the officers fired warning shots and, in his words, one of the migrants was wounded by a ricochet and later died,” Kostov told the radio.

He did not confirm initial allegations that the group was armed.

Not confirmed that they were armed means that they were at least armed with clubs. Putting up a resistance might mean actually attacking cops. If you don't enforce the border, then what good is it to have one?

Let just march 2 billion into it and plunder and kill all Europeans.

Quote:The incident prompted prime minister Boyko Borisov to leave an EU summit in Brussels on the refugee crisis and fly back home late on Thursday.

This one shot criminal caused such a crisis in Bulgaria that the prime minister had to return home instantly in order to punish the border patrol agent. Some reports from Bulgaria claim even that those men had guns on them, which is no surprise since Afghanistan is not overly safe.

If you look at the comment section, then 30% is already deleted and they have the usual crap of "having to show humanity and compassion."

Here's another gem for you all:

'It Makes Me Very Sad' Says Open Borders Advocate Brutally Stabbed by Migrant Gang

Quote:A pro-migrant, open borders activist is reported to be “very sad” after being stabbed twice in the back by a gang of “Arabs” as he stood outside a pizzeria in Dresden, east Germany.

Twenty-nine year old ‘Julius G.’ involved himself in political activism while reading his degree in industrial engineering Technical University of Dresden. Now he may have fallen victim to his own politics, as the refugee advocate was attacked while waiting for friends in Dresden’s Neustadt, known as the city’s ‘left wing’, or ‘alternative’ quarter.

Germany’s Bild-Zeitung reports police were called to Pizza 5 on Alaunstraße on Saturday after a group of six to eight men jumped the student in the early hours and stabbed him twice in the back, leaving him in a serious condition. A police spokesman said: “Several police vans searched the surrounding area, unfortunately without success. According to witnesses, the attackers were said to be North Africans”.

West-German ‘Julius G.’ who has been a student in Dresden for five years told Bild: “I don’t know why I was attacked.

“I waited opposite the pizzeria for two friends who were buying something to eat after we had left the pub and were on our way home”.

The student didn’t think the motivation was robbery, as nothing was taken after the stabbing. Explaining he campaigned for the rights of refugees, he explained: “it makes me very sad that I was attacked by precisely this group”.

Despite the apparently random violent attack by the migrants, the activist was adamant the stabbing shouldn’t be used for political ends.

Speaking to Saxony’s Sächsische Zeitung newspaper, the unidentified student said he had also campaigned against the Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of Europe movement (PEGIDA), which was founded and maintains its power base in conservative Dresden.

His reticence to allow his own negative experience damage the cause is redolent of another unfortunate recent case, as reported by Breitbart London, in which a fellow open borders activist decided to hush up her own gang-rape by African migrants.

Volunteering on the French-Italian border in a migrant camp, the woman was cornered in a shower block by a gang of Sudanese men, but kept the event to herself for a month because she and her colleagues feared it would slow the progress of their ideal of a world without borders.

We're beset by useful idiots

I guess those people have the same mentality like many Germans at the end of the war. Believing in the Endsieg even when they are surround by enemies in the own country.

It is indeed prophetic and symbolic this scene

https://messerattacke.wordpress.com/2015...8-arabern/

The face of the brainwashed cuck:




One of the Open Borders activists gets stabbed in the back by the very same migrants he wants to come at greater numbers to Germany. They probably saw his white pasty face and wanted vent their anger of not having been given an apartment, money and free 11 year old pussy.

Besides - the guy was alone standing there at night - maybe even smiling at them as they passed by.

Also the site here collects various transgressions - most are sexual harassment, rape and group rape by soulmates:

https://messerattacke.wordpress.com/

First they gang-raped one and now they stabbed on in the back. Those activists are enjoying open borders sooner than the rest of us.

Here another example of how stupid and idiotic those migrants are:

http://www.bild.de/regional/chemnitz/flu....bild.html



They refuse entry into a sports hall, because they were expecting apartments.

Somehow they believe that German administration can be built up from dealing with hundreds a day to 10.000 a day from scratch, so that they can be registered, analyzed, given documents and papers, then given account numbers and finally moved to empty apartments that the state will rent for them. All of this according to those morons has to be done within weeks. Why can't they give us just money and a fully furbished flat?

Maybe the US forces in Iraq distributed cash in stacks and bricks of 100-dollar bills and most of it was unaccounted for, but Europeans are not known for "losing" trillions. Only the US government and the US FED can do that.

(10-15-2015 08:08 PM)Walker Wrote:  Anyone considering violence as a solution to this problem only has one realistic way of making it work: Film an invader doing something heinous, then keep filming as that invader gets his comeuppance, as he gets the living shit kicked out of him. Then spread the video footage as far as it will go.

Millions of middle easterners and africans are hearing through their local social media that europe is the place to go. Those same channels that are used to tell them about europe, need to be used to show them "if you act out you'll be beaten to a bloody pulp".

That's an interesting proposition but I can't see it working.
The Middle Eastern and African men know the score.
They know that for the most part, Western, Northern and some central European countries too are populated by r-selected cucks, bent on blind pathological altruism.
They also know that even among the sizeable amount of people who are against this invasion, that realistically only a small percentage would use violence against them, at least at this moment in time.
And if anyone did attack them, the authorities would intervene, if not immediately, then afterwards and the person or persons involved could be jailed, lose their livlihood, etc

(10-16-2015 05:38 AM)amity Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 08:08 PM)Walker Wrote:  Anyone considering violence as a solution to this problem only has one realistic way of making it work: Film an invader doing something heinous, then keep filming as that invader gets his comeuppance, as he gets the living shit kicked out of him. Then spread the video footage as far as it will go.

Millions of middle easterners and africans are hearing through their local social media that europe is the place to go. Those same channels that are used to tell them about europe, need to be used to show them "if you act out you'll be beaten to a bloody pulp".

That's an interesting proposition but I can't see it working.
The Middle Eastern and African men know the score.
They know that for the most part, Western, Northern and some central European countries too are populated by r-selected cucks, bent on blind pathological altruism.
They also know that even among the sizeable amount of people who are against this invasion, that realistically only a small percentage would use violence against them, at least at this moment in time.
And if anyone did attack them, the authorities would intervene, if not immediately, then afterwards and the person or persons involved could be jailed, lose their livlihood, etc

This is true. However, the authorities have a problem - migrants who've torn up all their papers and documentation would be near impossible to identify, and they and their families have limited recourse to civilized authorities without jeopardising their own status in that country.

The potential for a Kafka-esque situation is notable. Charges would have to be brought against you on behalf of someone, who cannot be named, who is a citizen of nowhere, and who to all intents and purposes cannot be said to exist for the purposes of the legal machine. The implications of any prosecution brought on such a premise are wide ranging, and could cause significant damage to the rule of law. It is an interesting intellectual exercise to try to imagine what actual legal consequences there could be for any action you took against one of these paperless migrants.

(10-16-2015 05:38 AM)amity Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 08:08 PM)Walker Wrote:  Anyone considering violence as a solution to this problem only has one realistic way of making it work: Film an invader doing something heinous, then keep filming as that invader gets his comeuppance, as he gets the living shit kicked out of him. Then spread the video footage as far as it will go.

Millions of middle easterners and africans are hearing through their local social media that europe is the place to go. Those same channels that are used to tell them about europe, need to be used to show them "if you act out you'll be beaten to a bloody pulp".

That's an interesting proposition but I can't see it working.
The Middle Eastern and African men know the score.
They know that for the most part, Western, Northern and some central European countries too are populated by r-selected cucks, bent on blind pathological altruism.
They also know that even among the sizeable amount of people who are against this invasion, that realistically only a small percentage would use violence against them, at least at this moment in time.
And if anyone did attack them, the authorities would intervene, if not immediately, then afterwards and the person or persons involved could be jailed, lose their livlihood, etc

I won't argue with your last sentence, it's right. I never said it was a beneficial life decision for the individual people doing it, it would be taking one for the team.

As for the rest, no they don't know any of that. Not the ones still living in the middle east and thinking of moving. All they have to go on is what they read and watch on the internet. They haven't interacted with europeans face to face before.

(10-14-2015 11:23 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  While I'm on the topic, I also want to weigh in against the idea that democracy is the problem, which has been mentioned here a few times. Democracy is not the problem. Dictatorship is likewise not the solution. Democracy is as good/bad as the people within the country. A benevolent dictator also isn't worth much if the general citizen is a fat leftist phaggot. The key has always been control of the media, educational, and cultural/entertainment institutions. They are what shape the character of a nation. If RVFers controlled those institutions in the US and Europe, you can bet that democracy would work just fine, as the general citizen would have the right mindset and would execute his democratic duties in the appropriate way.

I'd like to rebut this because of how central and important this issue is. Some people have mentioned their sense of hopelessness and powerlessness over the situation their homelands are in. This comes from confusion - they don't know exactly what the root cause is, or what routes there are out of the disaster, if any.

I've tried to raise the issue of constitution multiple times, but no-one seems interested. They can't see how this is ultimately the central question, rather than some dry academic discussion with no practical merit.

Rather, everyone likes to talk about 'bad guys'. The 'evil elites', these superhuman devils who are enacting their dastardly plan upon the world. This seems to be a common position here, and it's Roosh's position, that everything is being done by and to benefit some 'evil elites', and that the question stops there.

That certainly isn't where the question ends. The world has always had 'elites' and it has always had 'evil people'. There is always a "top 1%". To blame it on some group that will always, by definition exist, is a conscious act of accepting helplessness and procrastination. The question is why, in this historical case, is the elite engaged in sadomasochistic destruction of those below them?

And the answer is: there a fundamental, constitutional reasons for such an elite being selected over other types. And the common constitutional reason is unambiguously democracy.

It is a false dichotomy that you either have a democracy or a dictatorship. It's also a meaningless statement that 'if RVF controlled democratic institutions there would be no problem'. Democracy doesn't empower reasonable, moral men, or encourage the 'right mindset' in its citizens, any more than McDonald's makes people fit and healthy. Don't say that a giraffe could play piano "if we can just find it a better teacher".

The best constitution is the mixed constitution. This is what Britain had prior to 1911, including during the age of enlightenment, the industrial revolution, and having the largest empire the world had ever seen.

The mixed constitution of a unitary state has a king, an aristocratic noble class, and democratic representation, all with equal power. All three must agree to new laws, and all three participate in administration in their own ways. It also has independent learned judges of the law.

Show me one state with a king and nobles who are deliberately destroying their countries? Why would monarchs or aristocrats deliberately fuck up their prized territory and homes respectively?

The king passes his territory on to his sons. Like any father, he has a vested genetic interest in maintaining the value of the assets he will pass on. He has a tendency not to "trash the house", both because he has to live there until he dies, and because his son will be left with it. His power is also final, so there is no need for him to play degenerative ideological divide and conquer, or to disrupt natural social structures to gain, maintain, or boost power.

The nobles have a similar vested hereditary interest. They are also far more numerous than the singular king, in addition to being independently wealthy. They are thus 'unlobbyable', in that swaying enough of them for immediate financial gain, at the expense of the 'long term capital value of the country', is nigh on impossible. They also act as a check on an incompetent or mad king, either by just killing him or threatening to do so if he starts being a tyrant (origin of the Magna Carta), or just due to their resistance and lack of cooperation (they tend to occupy the highest military posts etc). They also buffer the singular king from the numerous electorate. Their power is also final.

Finally the democratic representatives safeguard the remainder of the population (and traditionally only heads of houses vote) from abuse of power from the two other classes, and provide nation-wide input into the law making and administration processes.

It is beyond doubt that pure democracy, which has only been widespread for less than a century has been a failed experiment. The only question is how can the other two pillars of the mixed constitution be restored, while there are still countries left to be salvaged.

Well I hope some people read this. I've posted this before, and no-one seems to give a shit about it, even though they're not submitting a root-cause and plausible solution themselves. I know it's easier just to talk about evil scumbags and conspiracies and how "we're fucked", but I don't think it's a wholesome or agentic response.

I welcome any rebuttal to the idea of a restoration of the traditional European constitution.

TL;DR Stop just being angry instead of going to the effort of studying the nature of the problem, which would indicate the solutions that you may one day be forced to participate in, in the flesh and on the ground.

(10-16-2015 12:17 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  A group of 50+ afghans (all men) try to cross the Bulgarian border. A border patrol of 3 confronts them. They refuse to follow orders and resist. A shot in the air is fired, it ricochets and wounds one of them, who later dies.

The shit is hitting the fan.

Good. I hope incidents like this continue. The sooner to bring on war and hopefully coastal artillery sinking these boats to the bottom of the sea.

(10-16-2015 05:22 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  It is indeed prophetic and symbolic this scene

https://messerattacke.wordpress.com/2015...8-arabern/

The face of the brainwashed cuck:

This is the kind of people that I mentioned above.

These people are aiding and abetting the enemy. They need to be harassed, shamed, targeted, and hopefully beaten into submission. Their virtue signaling must be suppressed.

Hence they and the traitorous politicians and intellectual elites that lead them, not the "migrants" should be the primary target of the subversive activities I mentioned above.

Targeting the "migrants" would work into the narrative. Pointing out that these cucks are just cowardly faggots who would sell their own nation down the river just to signal moral superiority seizes the narrative. Then you can attack the "refugees" intellectually and point out the obvious truths.

Heh - one Syrian female refugee who is obviously a member of the middle class speaks about the terrible living conditions in a camp in Austria:





She makes a review of the quarters as if it is supposed to be a hotel - one that she paid for.

Then she mentions that the refugees are paid some 4 EUR per hour to help clean the facility.

I guess this is not one of those rape camps, because she walks around pretty open. She can call herself lucky that she is not sold for 10 euros per fuck in one of the German rape camps.

What's next - emergency refugee camps getting reviews on Yelp? Countries getting reviewed? Had to spend 2 months in camps, did not get apartment on arrival, food was not fit to be eaten by a woman, local women refused to drain my balls as promised, rape is difficult because Open Borders sluts are getting cautious now. 2 out of 5 stars for Austria - not what it was supposed to be.

Frankly it seems to me that the Islam religion should better disappear from earth. The World would be a better place. It's not even about reform really, because if you look at the Quran in detail (which I did a bit in recent time), then the stuff becomes even worse. It's as if you would try to reform Satanism or Luciferianism. Many of the customs like daily prayers, veils, pilgrimage to Mekka are not even mentioned in the Quran, while rape, killing of infidels, honor killings etc are written there.

I know that Christianity has some stupid beliefs too depending on the sect, but the old Testament is frankly not taken literally except by a few and the New Testament revolves around the life of a saint or at least a stoned Hippy if you ask atheists. The same concerns Buddhism and other major religions. Judaism has a few questionable parts of cheating non-Hebrews, chosen people being superior etc. But the fact remains that most Jews don't take it literally and they are more influenced by the constant Holocaust victimization and the actual bloodshed in Israel than by anything else. They are mostly secular and completely Westernized with only some tribal thinking in addition.

Islam however - I see no way how you can bring it to modern times, since they are based on a path which is set in the Middle Ages, has a barbaric and primitive code of conduct written into it where a husband can kill his wife if she slanders the name of the prophet. You would literally have to delete their book, which is impossible. Also focusing on the positive aspects like the Sufis is frankly more a pursuit out of necessity. The spiritual ones claim to be Muslims while creating a truly spiritual path within a bloody satanic one. They have not much in common with the Quran.

That is why most of the Iranians I met left Islam - they live in Austria, Hungary, Germany and the US now. Ah - another thing - leaving Islam once having converted or being born to it is calling for the death penalty.

I think that Islam will have best to die for the sake of humanity. And to be honest - I doubt that the real elite is unaware of it. They know that it has to be wiped out utterly before Brave New World arrives. So a global war, where all Muslims will die or convert to a new form of atheism, liberalism or some other semi-atheist religion - that war will be coming one day in the future. I don't think that the Muslims of the world can win and no one can be as stupid as to let in millions and then expect "assimilation". Only the local politicians may be stupid enough to believe it.

Zel, I agree that Islam itself has to be toned down or "secularized" from within. But you won't kill such a strong religion/ideology with bombs. You destroy ideologies by rotting their foundations. This includes several things. Stop the financing of jihadist groups, stop supporting wahhabi states like Saudi Arabia and instead redirect that financing towards secular/democratic movements in muslim majority countries while at the same time using lobbies, smart power and international institutions, along with sanctions/threat of violence towards those who would harm the previously mentioned secular movements. As for the current extremists. Exterminate them with haste.

(10-16-2015 09:16 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Zel, I agree that Islam itself has to be toned down or "secularized" from within. But you won't kill such a strong religion/ideology with bombs. You destroy ideologies by rotting their foundations.

Yeah but that's the "beauty" of Islam. It was made in a way where it can not be questioned or criticized.
There is no hope trying to reason with people who believe the load of shit that they actually believe.

Didn't that girl in Sudan get killed for naming her teddy-bear mohammed and she was like 3 years old?

Yeah I think reasoning with guns and bombs is the only solution now.

Bombs are what have been tried so far. The situation has generally worsened. And despite the destructive ideology that is Islam, the West has equally facilitated it both with financing or with leniency towards the Gulf states, which export oil alongside with jihad. Solving the current situation should be followed with creating conditions for the normalcy of these states. Though one can also argue about Sykes-Picot and whether that doomed any prospect of stability in the region at all.

(10-16-2015 10:04 AM)spalex Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 09:16 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Zel, I agree that Islam itself has to be toned down or "secularized" from within. But you won't kill such a strong religion/ideology with bombs. You destroy ideologies by rotting their foundations.

Yeah but that's the "beauty" of Islam. It was made in a way where it can not be questioned or criticized.
There is no hope trying to reason with people who believe the load of shit that they actually believe.

That's the conclusion I have come to myself. I did not deal with Islam very much until recently. I studied Sufism, but Sufism is practically not Islam - it's so far removed. I did not look into their lore and mental frames in detail. After having done so, I conclude that it is a violent war-like doctrine mixed with religions that justifies anything for the sake of conquest. It is equivalent to the Aztecs' blood rites. All creations of moderate Islam like Sufism and the one we see practiced by Europeans or black Americans is actually un-Islamic. It takes very little to call them all out for not living by sharia and for not taking part in the global Jihad. Since the very center of the Quran is meant to be taken as the final word of God, then you cannot argue with it much.

And don't take me wrong. If you lived in the year 900 and had the choice of being a soldier for Mohammed or one for a Christian war lord while living at much worse conditions, then most would have probably chosen to be a Muslim conquering soldier where wars were frequent, you were allowed to have multiple wives in addition to multiple pretty slaves, were allowed to rape and even kill if they insulted your prophet. Heck - it doesn't get better for a Medieval warrior. But if you want to rise beyond that in terms of civilization?






This cleric is not unusual and even moderate by all standards.

I think that the elite has taken a look at the Muslim world and decided that destruction from within just like with the Christian world won't work. Christians were pushed and pulled towards atheism and even the protestant paths in the US were manipulated into some kind of strange version of Judaism-light via the Council of Churches. Hinduism is not a problem over generations either - most people will have customs remaining and will be secular there as well. All other religions will follow suit and can be molded to the New World Order.

Islam is the only case which probably has to be wiped out and I think that this is what the elite is doing step by step. What concerns me now is that they let those future moderate head choppers into the West, tell them to retain their culture, build mosques for them. The only logical long-term conclusion must be that they want a final third world war when the Muslims will inevitably rise up and try to usurp the Western countries violently. When that time comes it's possible that entire Muslim countries will be wiped out via neutron bombs and literally every Islamist who retains his faith killed or be under complete 1984-style surveillance. It seems like a strong possibility in the future. The goals of Israel and the EU will be aligned by that time. Greater Israel can be easily built, when there is no one left alive there.

I can imagine many other measures being pushed through around the same time of that global unconventional Muslims vs Everyone war - total surveillance, cashless society, everyone getting chipped etc.

That might be off though - 25 to 40 years for sure.

Good time to be living in the Fijis by then.

(10-16-2015 07:21 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(10-14-2015 11:23 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  While I'm on the topic, I also want to weigh in against the idea that democracy is the problem, which has been mentioned here a few times. Democracy is not the problem. Dictatorship is likewise not the solution. Democracy is as good/bad as the people within the country. A benevolent dictator also isn't worth much if the general citizen is a fat leftist phaggot. The key has always been control of the media, educational, and cultural/entertainment institutions. They are what shape the character of a nation. If RVFers controlled those institutions in the US and Europe, you can bet that democracy would work just fine, as the general citizen would have the right mindset and would execute his democratic duties in the appropriate way.

I'd like to rebut this because of how central and important this issue is. Some people have mentioned their sense of hopelessness and powerlessness over the situation their homelands are in. This comes from confusion - they don't know exactly what the root cause is, or what routes there are out of the disaster, if any.

I've tried to raise the issue of constitution multiple times, but no-one seems interested. They can't see how this is ultimately the central question, rather than some dry academic discussion with no practical merit.

Rather, everyone likes to talk about 'bad guys'. The 'evil elites', these superhuman devils who are enacting their dastardly plan upon the world. This seems to be a common position here, and it's Roosh's position, that everything is being done by and to benefit some 'evil elites', and that the question stops there.

That certainly isn't where the question ends. The world has always had 'elites' and it has always had 'evil people'. There is always a "top 1%". To blame it on some group that will always, by definition exist, is a conscious act of accepting helplessness and procrastination. The question is why, in this historical case, is the elite engaged in sadomasochistic destruction of those below them?

And the answer is: there a fundamental, constitutional reasons for such an elite being selected over other types. And the common constitutional reason is unambiguously democracy.

It is a false dichotomy that you either have a democracy or a dictatorship. It's also a meaningless statement that 'if RVF controlled democratic institutions there would be no problem'. Democracy doesn't empower reasonable, moral men, or encourage the 'right mindset' in its citizens, any more than McDonald's makes people fit and healthy. Don't say that a giraffe could play piano "if we can just find it a better teacher".

The best constitution is the mixed constitution. This is what Britain had prior to 1911, including during the age of enlightenment, the industrial revolution, and having the largest empire the world had ever seen.

The mixed constitution of a unitary state has a king, an aristocratic noble class, and democratic representation, all with equal power. All three must agree to new laws, and all three participate in administration in their own ways. It also has independent learned judges of the law.

Show me one state with a king and nobles who are deliberately destroying their countries? Why would monarchs or aristocrats deliberately fuck up their prized territory and homes respectively?

The king passes his territory on to his sons. Like any father, he has a vested genetic interest in maintaining the value of the assets he will pass on. He has a tendency not to "trash the house", both because he has to live there until he dies, and because his son will be left with it. His power is also final, so there is no need for him to play degenerative ideological divide and conquer, or to disrupt natural social structures to gain, maintain, or boost power.

The nobles have a similar vested hereditary interest. They are also far more numerous than the singular king, in addition to being independently wealthy. They are thus 'unlobbyable', in that swaying enough of them for immediate financial gain, at the expense of the 'long term capital value of the country', is nigh on impossible. They also act as a check on an incompetent or mad king, either by just killing him or threatening to do so if he starts being a tyrant (origin of the Magna Carta), or just due to their resistance and lack of cooperation (they tend to occupy the highest military posts etc). They also buffer the singular king from the numerous electorate. Their power is also final.

Finally the democratic representatives safeguard the remainder of the population (and traditionally only heads of houses vote) from abuse of power from the two other classes, and provide nation-wide input into the law making and administration processes.

It is beyond doubt that pure democracy, which has only been widespread for less than a century has been a failed experiment. The only question is how can the other two pillars of the mixed constitution be restored, while there are still countries left to be salvaged.

Well I hope some people read this. I've posted this before, and no-one seems to give a shit about it, even though they're not submitting a root-cause and plausible solution themselves. I know it's easier just to talk about evil scumbags and conspiracies and how "we're fucked", but I don't think it's a wholesome or agentic response.

I welcome any rebuttal to the idea of a restoration of the traditional European constitution.

TL;DR Stop just being angry instead of going to the effort of studying the nature of the problem, which would indicate the solutions that you may one day be forced to participate in, in the flesh and on the ground.

I'm gonna rep you for this great post alone.

Constitutional Libertarian Democracry is by far the best solution to Europe's problems.

The Royal Families, in countries where they exist, are hugely popular and I always enjoy their speeches at New Year's Eve. They represent a kind of humanitarian elitist conservatism which really does and do act as the moral conscience of their subjects.

I can say with full confidence I'd prefer being rules by most these Kings and Queens over our Prime Ministers and Presidents.

And as you point out, this isn't meant to be tyrannical rule, rather you'd have the royalty essentially having veto power.

(10-16-2015 08:44 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Heh - one Syrian female refugee who is obviously a member of the middle class speaks about the terrible living conditions in a camp in Austria:





She makes a review of the quarters as if it is supposed to be a hotel - one that she paid for.

She has more space there than I did in my college dorm.

Would bang! Pretty, huge rack and love the accent. The entitlement and looks like fatty arms are downside. If you flooded Europe with women that looked like her rather than men it would be a better situation, but still not great due to the entitlement and different culture.

(10-16-2015 02:49 PM)kbell Wrote:  Would bang! Pretty, huge rack and love the accent. The entitlement and looks like fatty arms are downside. If you flooded Europe with women that looked like her rather than men it would be a better situation, but still not great due to the entitlement and different culture.

I don't even know whether she is part of a psy-op campaign and is even a real refugee.

Now this is news.

The EU is taxing everyone in Europe in order to pay for the refugees. The governments taking in the migrants will be paid money and all countries - even Greece or the UK has to pay for it:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/604171/...1444210390

Quote:Britain faces £90 MILLION asylum seeker bill from EU – even though we opted out of quotas

Don't want migrants? Fine - here is the bill anyway - solidarity with Merkel and Sweden is great.

It's a bit older news, but it comes into focus.

Posting "racist or xenophobic" content may cost you your job in Germany and a visit from the local child protective services. In grave cases your children may be taken away from you in order to free them from the influence of your negative viewpoints on immigrants.

https://www.rt.com/news/316821-xenophobi...ld-rights/

Quote:Posting xenophobic views online in Germany could cost you your job & child - report

Also interesting that Germany hired a former Stasi Agent "back" to monitor posts and file reports:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/...-comments/

Must say - those developments are promising.

Oh - another point - in case you might be wondering who organizes all those OPEN BORDERS and REFUGEES WELCOME campaigns:

http://www.amadeu-antonio-stiftung.de/eng/about-us/

This is only one such NGO - there are many others funded by the same guys who own it all. When you have unlimited cash, then doing that is easy peezy and comes naturally. Never mind that a well-done anti-immigration demonstration would rouse 20 times more people. What matters is what the media reports and what is finally seen on TV.

Hungary closing border with Croatia today at midnight

Our cuck prime minister is claiming that he has a deal with Slovenia to transfer them that way, but the reality is defying him: Slovene police and army are massing at the border and their government is saying that there's no such thing as a deal and the border is closed to everyone.

Train and bus transport has already been cancelled and it looks like no one will be getting into Slovenia for a while.